TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:21 am

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Also, legion could you expound on what these awesome extras are?


I don't believe there's anything that hasn't been released on DVD before, but there's still a ton of it...

a trailer
home movie footage of the special effects crew building the suits, Nakajima trying out the Godzilla suit, etc...
outtakes and special effects test footage
the 1971 Champion Reissue
a short 16mm home movie version of the movie
an image gallery
an illustrated children's book
an interview with Harou Nakajima (which includes footage of him wearing the Godzilla suit for the last time in the late '70s
an audio commentary (which is in Japanese, obviously, but still...)
a music only track
and a couple of other odds and ends



That's basically what all the features are on my R2 DVD. The illustrated children's book w/ narration is actually much more interesting/exciting than alot of the IDW books :lol:
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Jared » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:57 pm

^Sounds great, I just wish that Classic Media would port all of that over with subtitles...

Hybrid Gojira - there was only one King Ghidorah suit used in the 60's and 70's, just with various modifications over the years.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:59 am

I wish Classic Media would release blus. Their DVDs have a lot of interlacing issues.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Jared » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:37 am

Classic Media's DVDs have great presentation (extras, menus, packaging, etc), but the video and audio quality range from mediocre to terrible. It's a shame, considering they have five of the best films in the series.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Russzilla » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:13 am

Jared wrote:Classic Media's DVDs have great presentation (extras, menus, packaging, etc), but the video and audio quality range from mediocre to terrible. It's a shame, considering they have five of the best films in the series.

I never understood why these weren't re-released on blu-rays. Seems like a good opportunity to do so.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:34 am

Russzilla wrote:
Jared wrote:Classic Media's DVDs have great presentation (extras, menus, packaging, etc), but the video and audio quality range from mediocre to terrible. It's a shame, considering they have five of the best films in the series.

I never understood why these weren't re-released on blu-rays. Seems like a good opportunity to do so.

I know. I held out hope we'd see them hit blu-ray when the new movie dropped. ESPECIALLY Mothra vs. Godzilla, my favorite Godzilla movie.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Henry88 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:43 pm

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Jared wrote:Classic Media's DVDs have great presentation (extras, menus, packaging, etc), but the video and audio quality range from mediocre to terrible. It's a shame, considering they have five of the best films in the series.

I never understood why these weren't re-released on blu-rays. Seems like a good opportunity to do so.


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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby lhb412 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:39 pm

^CM put out that Gojira Blu-Ray several years ago, and if y'all remember the company who they got to do the HD master didn't do a good job and it was lambasted by critics and fans. It was kind of a boondoggle of a release, and since then they've been reluctant to do any rereleases.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby H-Man » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:23 pm

I wonder if Classic Media mastered its "restored" American versions in SD or HD. If all they have are SD elements and transfers then I'd bet that they would rather include the upscaled SD transfers than spend resources on updated versions. That or leave the English versions off altogether as they did with the 2009 Gojira Blu-Ray.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:23 pm

lhb412 wrote:^CM put out that Gojira Blu-Ray several years ago, and if y'all remember the company who they got to do the HD master didn't do a good job and it was lambasted by critics and fans. It was kind of a boondoggle of a release, and since then they've been reluctant to do any rereleases.


It was still better than the DVD though.

I really wish someone, be it Classic Media or Criterion, would give us at least Mothra vs Godzilla on BD.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:22 pm

I purchased the LEGENDARY MONSTER MAKER: KEIZO MURASE book a few months back (More info can be found at this link on August Ragone's blog:
http://augustragone.blogspot.jp/2015/08 ... 6.html?m=1) which has numerous rare, never before seen photos from Murase's career, spanning from Showa to Heisei eras.

One particularly interesting and rare photo that stands out is a blue King Ghidorah still:


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My Japanese girlfriend translated to text caption. According to her, it is said in Japanese folklore that Yamata no Orochi was a greenish color. Drawing inspiration from Yamata no Orochi, they initially decided to go with a blu-ish color for KG(For those who are not familiar with Japanese culture, older Japanese texts, writings, and literature have always blurred the lines between the colors "blue" and "gree"n, with green often being lumped into "blue". For example, green traffic lights are often referred to as "blue" over here, and and Haiku poet Basho often described "the blue grass and blue trees" of spring. There was no real distinction between blue and green until crayola/crayons started appearing in the country in the early 1900s...very strange cultural tidbit.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Mac » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:07 pm

Appreciate the picture, and the blue/green story.

Keep it up, ebirahmeg1!
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby lhb412 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:19 pm

That's a really neat find.

Kind of off-topic, but I've heard the theory that the human perception of the color blue might be a fairly recent one (as in thousands of years) and that some cultural confusion or anomalies about blue may be traced back to that.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby lhb412 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:37 pm

The Walter Reade Organization, which released this one Godzilla film in the '60s and no other kaiju films, always seemed like this big question mark to me. Their Americanization gave Ghidorah, The Three-Headed Monster a unique feel among the movies of the era and even as a kid I knew something was a bit different about this one, at least as far as the dub was concerned. I only just realized they released another major monster movie: they originally distributed George Romero's Night of the Living Dead!

In fact, they're the ones who accidentally deleted the copyright notice and made that hugely successful movie public domain! What a bunch of morons!
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:40 pm

^ Since they released GT3HM on a double bill with Harum Scarum, would that also make this the only Godzilla movie to ever play as part of a Godzilla/Elvis double feature in American theaters?
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby H-Man » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:09 pm

Walter Reade also released Godzilla versus The Sea Monster and Son of Godzilla, though obviously those went straight to TV.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby lhb412 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:32 pm

^They did? Totally different dubbing crew (the Hernandez folks) and approach to the Americanization. I always lumped them together with the AIP and UPA stuff.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby H-Man » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:32 pm

lhb412 wrote:^They did? Totally different dubbing crew (the Hernandez folks) and approach to the Americanization. I always lumped them together with the AIP and UPA stuff.


Yep, that was Walter Reade. Early (and unlicensed) home video versions of SOG still have the original Walter Reade logo at the end of the film. (YouTube video.)

Different dubbing crew, but both Titan and Bellucci Productions (Ghidrah) were based in New York. (And Jack Curtis and several other Titra/Titan voices can be heard in Bellucci Productions' Prince of Space). Maybe Bellucci had closed its doors by the time Walter Reade had Sea Monster and SOG dubbed, or maybe they weren't thrilled with how their version of Ghidrah had turned out.

Benjamin Haines wrote:^ Since they released GT3HM on a double bill with Harum Scarum, would that also make this the only Godzilla movie to ever play as part of a Godzilla/Elvis double feature in American theaters?


Officially, yes, although theater owners could have played Godzilla and Elvis on the same bill on their own whim.
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Re: TALKBACK #5: Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster

Postby lhb412 » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:56 pm

Ha! So it was *impersonates Mike Nelson doing a fake Italian accent* "BELLUCCI PRODUCTIONS!"
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