Kong: Skull Island (2017)

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Moonlight SY-3 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:34 pm

My staff and I just threw a few more thousand yen at it last Monday (theater about 1/3 full). Finally got to see it in English! And in 2D. The 3D was fine, but since I don't wear glasses, just having to wear the 3D glasses is a distraction.

The Japanese dub was also just fine, but it's still much better to hear Samuel L. and John C. in English.

Some fun comments, that although I don't think are spoilerly at all, might be best hidden:

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While it in no way detracted from my enjoyment of the movie, we did have fun taking a Huey count this time. As far as we could tell, the first time you see the helos lined up on the ship, there are 6 Hueys parked amidships, with the Hook up front and the Sea Stallion (which really should have been called "Jolly Green Giant" if it was an Army helo) out back. Then the on-deck Huey count fluctuates between 4 and 5 Hueys from scene to scene. Then, just before they enter the storm, you get a very clear shot of all the helos, and you see 11 Hueys, plus the one Hook and one Sea Stallion. Then, after all the helos are lost, you see THREE MORE Hueys arrive at the end! So, there were at least 14 Hueys stowed on that ship somehow...Or it was a floating Huey factory. Or there was another ship with them that we did not see. Or it was a movie...just relax and enjoy it!

Also thought it was hilarious that all the helos made a great effort to stay low and within Kong's arm reach. The tree through the cockpit, OK, nobody saw that coming, fair enough, but on first approach all the helos are a good distance from Kong and could have easily pulled up a couple hundred feet and be waaaay out of his reach. Instead, they all maintain an altitude of about 100 feet...and flew right next to him...repeatedly...carnage ensues.

Not complaining at all though, 'cuz it was ALL GREAT! Loved every minute of it!


So yeah, great movie!
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:22 am

Quick thought....

Kong's doing really great, which is ...really great. :lol: :mrgreen:

If G'19 & GvK do well, do you think we'll perhaps see Kong in another solo outing? I'd certainly be up for it. My nerdgasm hit overdrive just thinking about the possibility of them doing a loose remake of King Kong Escapes! :mrgreen:
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:27 am

^ I was thinking the other day that they could do another solo Kong film set in the '80s (so Kong would still be 'small' enough to directly interact with humans) and could bring back some of this cast.

Of course, having Dr. Hu and Mechanikong would be the dream.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:56 pm

IF (and this is a kinda big "if") they combine the PacRim universe with the MonsterVerse, then MechaGodzilla and MechaniKong are both well within the realm of possibility. And even if it doesn't happen, it sure is fun to dream about it, huh? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby O.Supreme » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:18 pm

I know this sounds odd...But I think that one of the films most desirable traits to me was that Kong was not taken off the Island to a modern city. This hasn't happened since Son Of Kong, and I actually enjoyed it. Now...a "battleground" for Kong & Godzilla could be any number of environments, but I think it would be kind of fun if, wherever they go with it, that it occur NOT In a major metropolis. There are plenty of Jungle, Forrest, Island, Desert, Mountain, ocean...you name it, environments they could battle in. Kind of a throwback to a number of Toho films were expensive city miniatures were not used as cost-cutting measures. I know with CG its all different, but I'd love to see most if not all the battles take place away from majorly populated areas.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:25 pm

O.Supreme wrote:I know this sounds odd...But I think that one of the films most desirable traits to me was that Kong was not taken off the Island to a modern city. This hasn't happened since Son Of Kong, and I actually enjoyed it. Now...a "battleground" for Kong & Godzilla could be any number of environments, but I think it would be kind of fun if, wherever they go with it, that it occur NOT In a major metropolis. There are plenty of Jungle, Forrest, Island, Desert, Mountain, ocean...you name it, environments they could battle in. Kind of a throwback to a number of Toho films were expensive city miniatures were not used as cost-cutting measures. I know with CG its all different, but I'd love to see most if not all the battles take place away from majorly populated areas.

I want a battle in ancient ruins like the great wall of china or the mayan (Aztec?) temples.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Gojira-2000 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:20 pm

Maybe one of the battles should take place in Janjira City, it's abandoned and isn't likely to be repopulated anytime soon I'd imagine.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:48 am

Moonlight SY-3 wrote:My staff and I just threw a few more thousand yen at it last Monday (theater about 1/3 full). Finally got to see it in English! And in 2D. The 3D was fine, but since I don't wear glasses, just having to wear the 3D glasses is a distraction.


Would you say there's an awareness in Japan that this movie ties into the Hollywood Godzilla?
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Henry88 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:18 pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/BShcvXOlYGd/
voterobertsKong just past 500 million at the world wide box office. Whoa. Thank you to everyone who went and supported the film (especially the people of Viet Nam).
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:17 pm

Forbes:
As 'Skull Island' Tops $500M, Why 'Kong Vs. Godzilla' May Trump 'Batman V Superman'
"If audiences like these versions of King Kong and Godzilla, then 'Kong Vs. Godzilla' will be more than a curiosity."

Scott Mendelson wrote:A strong performance in North America, China and the rest of the world has pushed Kong: Skull Island over the $500 million mark at the worldwide box office. That includes a $150m-and-counting domestic take and a $152m-and-counting Chinese total for a current $522m worldwide cume heading into its third weekend in China and its fifth weekend in North America.

Even though the film cost around $185 million to produce, it's a decent hit and an incredibly promising performance. This is a fine example of how being liked can arguably surpass being a record-smashing hit, especially in the complicated world of cinematic universes. This surprisingly robust reception and performance put the would-be cinematic universe on healthy footing and primes Kong Vs. Godzilla to be a very big deal in three years' time.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Gman2887 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:18 pm

Kong has now passed Godzilla '14 worldwide with $534 million.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:51 pm

Man, even with the onslaught of competition it seems to have outpreformed expectations pretty much everywhere are has had more legs than anyone expected!
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Moonlight SY-3 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:13 pm

lhb412 wrote:
Moonlight SY-3 wrote:My staff and I just threw a few more thousand yen at it last Monday (theater about 1/3 full). Finally got to see it in English! And in 2D. The 3D was fine, but since I don't wear glasses, just having to wear the 3D glasses is a distraction.


Would you say there's an awareness in Japan that this movie ties into the Hollywood Godzilla?


Amongst all my acquaintances, certainly, but we're all like-minded enthusiasts! I think most people here with even a passing interest in the genre do realize this Kong and the recent Hollywood Godzilla are from the same studio, so I'd wager the expectation for KK vs G is there. Hopefully the 20% or so of people who waited for the stinger will help spread the word!
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:27 am

Never ever in my life have I rooted for Kong to defeat Godzilla :wink: ...except in this case in terms of Box Office gains. I am really pleased at how well Skull Island is doing all things considered. It has just now surpassed Godzilla (2014) GBO of 529 M (Kong currently sits at 534M). ...and is still going. Will it topple the King of the Monsters domestically?...probably not, but winning the global market is really more important IMHO. Legendary and WB are happy, no matter where the money comes from.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:55 pm

Kong: Skull Island had its best hold yet in weekend five, dropping -35.1% to $5.5 million even as it lost 388 screens. It's now topped $156m in North America along with $161m in China and $14m in Japan.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Gwangi » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:02 am

All of this was a big gamble. Heck, it was an even bigger gamble than "Godzilla 2014" (and that itself was a risk). Plus, the added fact that Thomas Tull had stepped down from Legendary, thus, if Kong was a wash (like "The Great Wall"), the talk was that the plug was going to be pulled on this "Monsterverse". I always believe that this universe was going to move forward regardless, with the only question being, how much will this Chinese group invest in it?

Well, it looks like this movie has paid off handsomely. I've sometimes have questioned his motives, but I gotta give kudos to Thomas Tull. Yes, some out there will still gripe that domestically, it did not make the $185 price tag it took to make this film, but the whole game has changed, and the U.S. has become one piece of the pie, a desert that is now shared by several others.

On another note, in seeing ESPN and watching the Chicago Cubs raising their World Series banner, I would like to think that somehow, Hank Marlow lived long enough to see that come to fruition. Warner Brothers and Legendary should have sent John C. Reilly to Wrigley Field just for the fun of it! (and not a bad promo either!). :mrgreen:
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby O.Supreme » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:13 am

Gwangi wrote:All of this was a big gamble. Heck, it was an even bigger gamble than "Godzilla 2014" (and that itself was a risk). Plus, the added fact that Thomas Tull had stepped down from Legendary, thus, if Kong was a wash (like "The Great Wall"), the talk was that the plug was going to be pulled on this "Monsterverse". I always believe that this universe was going to move forward regardless, with the only question being, how much will this Chinese group invest in it?

Well, it looks like this movie has paid off handsomely. I've sometimes have questioned his motives, but I gotta give kudos to Thomas Tull. Yes, some out there will still gripe that domestically, it did not make the $185 price tag it took to make this film, but the whole game has changed, and the U.S. has become one piece of the pie, a desert that is now shared by several others.

On another note, in seeing ESPN and watching the Chicago Cubs raising their World Series banner, I would like to think that somehow, Hank Marlow lived long enough to see that come to fruition. Warner Brothers and Legendary should have sent John C. Reilly to Wrigley Field just for the fun of it! (and not a bad promo either!). :mrgreen:


He'd be right about the century mark, or very late 90's. There are still a couple IRL living WWII vets, its not entirely impossible :wink:
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:14 am

The praise and box office are well-earned. Skull Island was far and away better than G2014 (for my money) so I'm happy to see it be successful.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby daikaijusaurus » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:41 pm

First of all, I am just overjoyed that Skull Island is making as much money internationally as it is. I do wish that it was making more domestically but I guess it's internationally is what counts the most. The way I see it, the more money these MonsterVerse movies make the better, that way we'll see more. If Godzilla King of the Monsters is as fun and action packed as Skull Island, my guess is that it will make a lot more money, especially if Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah are all in it. If these movies continue to succeed as they are so far, I think we'll definitely see more movies beyond Godzilla Vs Kong. I'd love to see a Destroy all Monsters type movie after Godzilla Vs Kong, which is what I think Legendary is aiming at after Godzilla Vs Kong. But only time will tell.

In the meantime, we can enjoy some new Kong Skull Island comics while we wait for the next chapter in the MonsterVerse.

Skull Island: The Birth of Kong
http://collider.com/kong-skull-island-comic-monsterverse/

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby tbeasley » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:13 pm

A New Kong in Town: A Q&A With ILM’s Jeff White

ILM creatures on Kong’s Skull Island

Hideo Kojima on How 'Kong: Skull Island' Reinvigorates Monster Movies
Previous Kong movies have been about pulling what is essentially a god from another civilization, and then dominating that god through western capitalist culture. In this movie, Kong is portrayed as a monster from beginning to end, and that is why Kong: Skull Island works so well. It's clear that this is the first interpretation of the Kong story that has been influenced by years of Japanese monster movies. For example, in both Mothra in 1966* and Gappa: The Triphibian Monster in 1967, the monsters that come to the city from a remote island are never sacrificed and eventually return to their home islands alive.

In Vogt-Roberts' film, Kong isn't summoned to civilization. Instead humans are thrown into the wild and uncivilized environment of Skull Island itself. These powerless humans don't fight Kong – their fight is with the environment. The foreign culture represented by Kong isn't ultimately eliminated to somehow benefit western civilization.

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby tbeasley » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:42 pm

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:46 pm

^Mmmmmm... makes me hungry for sushi!
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Gwangi » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:36 pm

And Mr. Tsuburaya had that first one for dinner. These poor creatures. They do their scenes. They do them great, and end up on the menu! :cry:

Seriously though, that is a great cover!
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Gman2887 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:17 pm

$552 million. It's now passed Peter Jackson's Kong.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby gila-monster » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:49 am

I finally caught this today. It was entertaining, and overall I enjoyed the film. The special effects were excellent, although I wish the camera angles for a lot of the fights were from a lower perspective to maintain that feeling of large monsters. Also the story felt pretty messy, jumping from subplot to subplot, with no real focus on any characters. I enjoyed the pre-island portion of gathering the crew, but once they were landed it felt a bit directionless.

John C. Reily's character was the best, and I think the story would have been stronger if it focused more on him and less on the others.
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But all in all an entertaining movie with great monster designs and lots of great colours and textures making beautiful scenes here and there.
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