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Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:26 pm
by canofhumdingers
It's really really buried in the sound mix but there were definitely two times you could very subtly hear Ghidorah's classic cackle in his sound effects. But that classic flying effect as he approaches Fenway park is quite plainly audible, just brief.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:22 pm
by GFan
Another Easter egg...

When King Ghidorah gets hit with Godzilla's breath as he's about to get MBB at Fenway. It's a nod to when Titanosaurs gets hit/Godzilla makes his appearance in ToMG!

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:32 pm
by Benjamin Haines
GFan wrote:Another Easter egg...

When King Ghidorah gets hit with Godzilla's breath when he's about to get MBB at Fenway is a nod to TERROR OF MECHAGODZILLA when Titanosaurs gets hit/Godzilla makes his appearance!


Nice catch! That scene doubles as a nod to Godzilla's second entrance in ToMG when Titanosaurus is attacking those two kids.


lhb412 wrote:
jellydonut25 wrote:
LoneWolfandCub wrote:-- The young Japanese scientist
She's Chinese and definitely a very "make the movie more appealing to China" part of the movie. They kill off Sally Hawkins to replace her with a character who's essentially the exact same character but...Chinese....so China will care more and go see it more.


She's also twins: the one on the Goteng... uh, whatever the ship is called and the one who witnesses the Mothra cocoon emergence. Part of subsequent generations of twins in a family who've worked for Monarch and apparently this continuity's version of the Shobijin.

Which is why Zhang Ziyi should star in a Mothra solo film!


Between the headline in the end credits musing whether a newly discovered giant egg might be Mothra's and the fact that Ziyi Zhang is among the cast of Godzilla vs. Kong, I wonder if we might see the next generation of Mothra in that film. Maybe we'll get a recreation of the monster talk scene from Ghidorah the Three-Headed Monster with Mothra convincing Kong and Godzilla to join forces against whatever the eco-terrorists cook up with that severed Ghidorah head.


jellydonut25 wrote:
mr.negativity wrote:NSFW:
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Hey. Can we like...kinda sorta talk about this for a second?

I get that it was just a jokey joke moment but like...the implication here from this dumb throwaway joke is that when the team comes across the sub in the jungle, it's covered not in saliva, but in semen....right? Like, Godzilla 2014 now features prominent kaiju penises, vaginas, semen, and Godzilla sexually assaulting a creature to death....

...right? (tongue in cheek...but also... right?)


Yes indeed, that is right. It makes sense that the MUTOs' genitals would be in their snouts since that's really the only bit of intimate physical contact that happens between the male and the female before he flies off and she lays her eggs.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:01 pm
by tbeasley
I don't think much thought was put into the Muto lifecycle, and the censoring in KOTM was simply a joke. There are quite a few monster related sex jokes in the movie anyway.

I just assumed either A) the male Muto is sterile, simply providing nuclear material (dead monsters in the past, nukes in the present) for the female to sustain her already fertilized eggs or B) the male provides nuclear material to get the party started, the female deposits her eggs, which the male then fertilizes (similar to how fish spawn externally and all that).

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:19 am
by jellydonut25
tbeasley wrote:I don't think much thought was put into the Muto lifecycle, and the censoring in KOTM was simply a joke. There are quite a few monster related sex jokes in the movie anyway.

I just assumed either A) the male Muto is sterile, simply providing nuclear material (dead monsters in the past, nukes in the present) for the female to sustain her already fertilized eggs or B) the male provides nuclear material to get the party started, the female deposits her eggs, which the male then fertilizes (similar to how fish spawn externally and all that).

It's obviously just a joke, and it's obvious that nobody put any thought into beyond just beyond a dumb joke, because well...that's the level of thought that went into ANYTHING in the script.

But it's just amusing to me. When the team find the submarine all covered in "saliva" in 2014 now, I'm definitely going to laugh as I'll be thinking that thanks to Michael Dougherty, it's probably not actually saliva anymore. :wink:

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:57 pm
by Benjamin Haines
Rewatching the movie now, I noticed that it features a shot of a destroyed passenger train from Gareth Edwards' original Godzilla test footage. Edwards produced that footage as part of his pitch to get Warner Bros. to hire him as the reboot's director and now that shot of the wrecked train is used to depict Cairo, Egypt in the sequel.

Gareth Edwards' Godzilla test footage:
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Godzilla: King of the Monsters:
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LoneWolfandCub wrote:How many Easter Eggs and references to other G films did you catch? Here's what I caught:

-- Protester outside the White House TV clip carrying a poster saying "Destroy All Monsters."


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DannyBeane wrote:The Monarch base Rodan erupted from was 56 which was the same year Rodan came out.


Rodan at Outpost 56, Godzilla at Outpost 54, Mothra at Outpost 61, and Kong at Outpost 33!

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canofhumdingers wrote:It’s fleeting, but during the buildup just prior to Ghidorah landing at Fenway Park you can clearly hear his classic flying sound effect.


Listening to it closely, I can definitely hear it in the background of this shot of Madison, at the 1:40:32 mark:

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Also, you can definitely hear one of Ghidorah's Heisei snarls when he chomps at Godzilla in this exact shot from the Boston battle, at the 1:45:20 mark:
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Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:06 pm
by H-Man
^ There are other shots from the G14 "teaser" that were repurposed in this film.

https://astoundingbeyondbelief.tumblr.c ... ck-footage

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:13 pm
by mr.negativity
Screen Rant:
Yes, That Was Anguirus In Godzilla: King Of The Monsters
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Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:17 pm
by lhb412
I mentioned this on another thread, but the 'if the walls and stones could speak' line Whitford says is a reference to a similar line from GMK. When pointed out on twitter Dougherty called it one of the more obscure references in the film.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:47 am
by canofhumdingers
Yep, Ben, that was exactly the spot I meant for hearing the classic flying sound effect!

That Angilas Easter egg is awesome! I’d never have spotted that on my own. You pretty much have to pause and step-frame the image to really see him, but he’s right there!

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:58 pm
by Rodanex
Screens at the Monarch base show that they have Maser Turrets (really wish they could have shown them)
Mothra directing energy down at the ocean to heal Godzilla is a bit reminiscent of her creating the magical seal around Godzilla at the end of Godzilla vs Mothra

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:08 pm
by XvGojira
Rodanex wrote:Screens at the Monarch base show that they have Maser Turrets (really wish they could have shown them)
Mothra directing energy down at the ocean to heal Godzilla is a bit reminiscent of her creating the magical seal around Godzilla at the end of Godzilla vs Mothra


I don't really see that as Mothra healing Godzilla, just more of her finding the best place to communicate with him. Like trying to find good cellphone signal and the humans use that to find Godzilla.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:23 pm
by mr.negativity
Screen Rant:
King of the Monsters’ Burning Godzilla Has A Cool Mothra Easter Egg
NICHOLAS RAYMOND wrote:After being horribly burned by Rodan, Mothra gives his life to help a badly wounded Godzilla. After Mothra's life energies flow into Godzilla, Godzilla's body goes through a startling transformation. After taking on a fiery form that's been nicknamed "Burning Godzilla," he resumes his fight with Ghidorah. His body unleashes a gigantic red blast called an atomic pulse that devastates King Ghidorah. Though eagle-eyed fans may have already noticed while watching the theatrical version, one of the special features included in the home video release of Godzilla: King of the Monsters, "Godzilla 2.0", draws attention to this scene and reveals a cleverly-inserted Mothra Easter egg.

Godzilla's atomic pulse contains the pattern of Mothra's wings.
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Also, the sounds effects that accompany the atomic pulse curiously match the sound of Mothra's cry. Mothra's cry and the pattern of her wings in Godzilla's ultimate attack symbolizes the importance of Mothra's sacrifice. It's also the movie's way of telling audiences that when Godzilla is finishing off King Ghidorah with his atomic pulses, Mothra, in her own way, is helping, too. But her sacrifice doesn't mean she can't return in a future film, seeing as rebirth is a cornerstone of what makes Mothra unique.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:34 pm
by Rodanex
XvGojira wrote:
Rodanex wrote:Screens at the Monarch base show that they have Maser Turrets (really wish they could have shown them)
Mothra directing energy down at the ocean to heal Godzilla is a bit reminiscent of her creating the magical seal around Godzilla at the end of Godzilla vs Mothra


I don't really see that as Mothra healing Godzilla, just more of her finding the best place to communicate with him. Like trying to find good cellphone signal and the humans use that to find Godzilla.


That makes sense. I wasn't really sure what was going on in that scene.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:29 am
by william newell
I'm probably reaching here, but the "color palette" of this movie reminded me of "Final Wars". Anyone else get this vibe?

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:48 am
by klen7
this flick evoked FW to me in a lot of ways

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:38 am
by Benjamin Haines
Godzilla: King of the Monsters is absolutely the Final Wars of American Godzilla movies.

It compiles classic story tropes, monsters, music themes and other elements from the series' history into a unique new blend.

It follows an eclectic ensemble of characters as they travel the planet in a flying warship to cancel the apocalypse.

It prominently features an actor from the other side of the Pacific among its main cast, although he isn't the lead.

It has a director who went for broke and crammed as many ideas and as much action as he could fit into his two-hour Godzilla flick.

It has more monsters than you can shake a stick at wreaking havoc all around the world, with Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah among the co-stars.

It ends with Ghidorah nearly sucking the life out of Godzilla until an ally's power-up enables Godzilla to bounce back and utterly annihilate Ghidorah.

Despite drawing so much inspiration from the series' history, there are a lot of Godzilla fans that hate it.

The heavily saturated color palette is another thing that G:KotM has in common with GFW.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:15 pm
by tbeasley
^ I see your point(s) but I would say KOTM, while imperfect, is far more coherent and creatively sound than FW. It's the kind of celebratory monster mash FW wishes it were.

I would also say the teal/orange palette brings to mind Mad Max: Fury Road more than the greasy, Michael Bay-ish looking FW.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:26 pm
by Benjamin Haines
^ I agree that G:KotM is a much better-made film than GFW all-around, although based on the reviews I've read, there are quite a few Godzilla fans who put both films in the bottom of the barrel.

But I think it's a given that the super-saturated color palettes of GFW and G:KotM are chasing the standardized look of Michael Bay's blockbusters just like so many other Hollywood films have in this century.

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:44 pm
by william newell
Thanks Ben, that was a pretty comprehensive list of similarities. Many I had not thought of before. I would be curious to see if fan reaction falls along the same lines. By that, I mean, did fans of "Final Wars" tend to like G:KotM more than those who were not(fans of "Final Wars")?

Re: Godzilla: KOTM Easter Eggs & REferences

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:56 pm
by Benjamin Haines
^ I wouldn't be surprised if that tended to be the case. I am in the "dig it" camp for both G:KotM and GFW.