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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:35 am

Outkaster wrote:The problem is the bar has been raised to high. Hollywood thinks Godzilla should make Marvel type movie money. It isn't realistic. Godzilla may be a household name but not a billion dollar franchise like the Avengers or something.

I don't think expectations were THAT high. I think they were probably thinking/hoping in the $700 million worldwide range, since 2014 was like, $500-something and Skull Island was $600-something.

You can slice this whole thing anyway you want, but bottom-line is that while it won't LOSE money or be a BOMB or anything like that, it's a disappointment at the box office.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Dai » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:33 pm

I suppose the big question now is whether KotM's tepid box office will cause Warner Bros to freak out and force changes to Godzilla vs Kong, the same way they did with Justice League when Batman v Superman 'under-performed' (with a mere $872m :roll:). Considering Adam Wingard's eratic track record, I don't know if that would be a good or bad thing.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:18 pm

^ Expectations were stupid high and the budgets were bigger for those. Also; WB may have been concerned with the overall story direction of Snyder's films and the ramifications for the use of their most prominent DC heroes for some time to come. In other words: better to sabotage one film to free up creative space for Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Shazam, and whatnot.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:18 pm

It really doesn't matter which movie tops the weekend box office chart. G:KotM ranked #1 on its opening weekend but that didn't make its $47m debut any less disappointing. It was already expected to open lower than G'14 but opening 22% lower than Kong: Skull Island was a letdown regardless of the 1st-place weekend ranking.

What matters is how each individual film performs on its own terms. G:KotM is already unlikely to turn a profit theatrically. At this point, the key questions are how leggy it will be and whether it can make enough worldwide to break even before it hits the post-theatrical market. K:SI reportedly needed to top $500m worldwide to break even on its $185m budget (it finished with $566m), so my guess is G:KotM will need to hit around $460m to break even at a cost of $170m. It would need to be just as leggy as K:SI both in North America and internationally just to top $450m.

Domestically, if G:KotM collapses as fast as G'14 (-66.8%), it'll make $15.8m in its second weekend. In the unlikely event that it holds up as well as Rampage (-43.8%), it would bring in $26.8m. Legs like K:SI (-54.4%) would get it to $21.7m this weekend, which is probably the best we can hope for whether it ranks #3 or #6 for the weekend.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby gyaos » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:32 am

KOTM looks to drop close to 70 percent!!! this weekend. That is offical "bomb" status.

The most concerning thing is that the film got an OK cinemascore (B+), so while the legs weren't going to be good, there should not have have been an immediate freefall. This points to Godzilla just turning off the general audience now.

Add in G vs K continuing the awful story from KOTM that the audience thoroughly rejected, and the monsterverse is kaput after next March.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby O.Supreme » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:40 pm

That is provably untrue. KotM has received generally positive reviews from those who have seen it. It's just the realization that Godzilla isn't that popular period. KotM is IMHO far more entertaining than even Skull Island ( which I thoroughly enjoyed).

It's just that Godzilla will seemingly always be niche despite being a cultural icon.

Even though it won last weekend's domestic Box office, it sadly was only king for a day with a strong Friday, but Aladdin barely outgrossing it on Saturday and Sunday, seemingly each weekday this past week as well.

I was hoping it would only fall to #3 in it's second weekend, but it appears more likely to slip to #4
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby goji4ever » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:42 pm

gyaos wrote:KOTM looks to drop close to 70 percent!!! this weekend. That is offical "bomb" status.

The most concerning thing is that the film got an OK cinemascore (B+), so while the legs weren't going to be good, there should not have have been an immediate freefall. This points to Godzilla just turning off the general audience now.

Add in G vs K continuing the awful story from KOTM that the audience thoroughly rejected, and the monsterverse is kaput after next March.


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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:26 pm

O.Supreme wrote:That is provably untrue. KotM has received generally positive reviews from those who have seen it. It's just the realization that Godzilla isn't that popular period. KotM is IMHO far more entertaining than even Skull Island ( which I thoroughly enjoyed).

It's just that Godzilla will seemingly always be niche despite being a cultural icon.


Not quite.

The enormous budgets of movies as well as the incredible success of superheroes and other franchises in the past couple of decades has just warped our idea of what something popular is. Those things aren't simply popular, they are Mega popular and have four-quadrant appeal that can attract the enormous audiences that they do. What's more, the consistent nature of these film series have created a brand awareness where even if an individual movie isn't the best the audiences can be pretty confident that at least a standard of quality will be agreeable when they pay their ten bucks to see the movie. Those guys have the savvy and the resources to not just succeed in the industry, but almost become the industry itself.

Monster movies have always been popular, but despite a dozen or so exceptions they are rarely blockbusters. Godzilla has been chugging along for 65 years with 35 movies under his belt and I'll bet he has a bigger base of popularity in the United States then ever. Is that enough to sustain a 170 million dollar movie? Maybe not, but Godzilla will do just fine. Remember, Toho owns Godzilla and even if Legendary's rights expire Toho is taking a more active role in merchandising and licensing worldwide.

Maybe that means no Hollywood Godzilla movies, but rather Japanese or Asian country co-productions and a chibi Godzilla cartoon early mornings on Nickelodeon? That seems as likely to me as anything else. Of course, Legendairy and WB have some smart folks, and even if these two films lose money they may still see value in the brand name and continue their collaboration under a different strategy. Godzilla will be fine. When you see Godzilla vs Kong next year savor Kong's appearance, because that dude goes away for decades at a time!
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby battrafan » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:40 am

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=godzilla2.htm

Will be over $70 million domestic after this weekend, international numbers have not been updated since the 2nd.

Both Dark Phoenix and Secret Life of Pets 2 are projecting low this weekend, maybe it's not anything specific to Godzilla.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:57 am

^ Seems like a real bloodbath. Disney's movies seem to have sucked all the oxygen out of the room for the present. Pikachu, which everyone thought would be a megahit (as well a prespective game-changer for video game and anime adaptations) also underperformed as Avengers was still doing gangbusters a few weeks in.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby gojira_fan » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:11 am

Maybe we’re starting to see a little bit of sequel fatigue, excluding Marvel. Although it’s going to be interesting to see how things go post Endgame.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Russzilla » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:55 am

gojira_fan wrote:Maybe we’re starting to see a little bit of sequel fatigue, excluding Marvel. Although it’s going to be interesting to see how things go post Endgame.


We’ll find that out after Spider Man: Far from Home when Kevin Feige and Marvel announce the next phase of Marvel movies. As for the Monsterverse, I think we should just get ready for Godzilla vs. Kong, enjoy it, then get ready for Toho’s take on Godzilla again. I kinda think that Godzilla’s run on the big screen over here is just about done. I will say this though. As was brought up in another thread, I would love to see a joint Legendary/Toho produced Godzilla movies, and send them right to Netflix. Just my thoughts. Either way, we’re still getting more G movies after GvsK.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:25 pm

Godzilla: King of the Monsters dropped an estimated -67.5% to $15.5m in its second weekend of domestic play. That could go up or down a bit when actuals are tallied tomorrow but it's right in the same ballpark as G'14's -66.8% hold.


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O.Supreme wrote:That is provably untrue. KotM has received generally positive reviews from those who have seen it. It's just the realization that Godzilla isn't that popular period. KotM is IMHO far more entertaining than even Skull Island ( which I thoroughly enjoyed).

It's just that Godzilla will seemingly always be niche despite being a cultural icon.


Not quite.

The enormous budgets of movies as well as the incredible success of superheroes and other franchises in the past couple of decades has just warped our idea of what something popular is. Those things aren't simply popular, they are Mega popular and have four-quadrant appeal that can attract the enormous audiences that they do. What's more, the consistent nature of these film series have created a brand awareness where even if an individual movie isn't the best the audiences can be pretty confident that at least a standard of quality will be agreeable when they pay their ten bucks to see the movie. Those guys have the savvy and the resources to not just succeed in the industry, but almost become the industry itself.

Monster movies have always been popular, but despite a dozen or so exceptions they are rarely blockbusters. Godzilla has been chugging along for 65 years with 35 movies under his belt and I'll bet he has a bigger base of popularity in the United States then ever. Is that enough to sustain a 170 million dollar movie? Maybe not, but Godzilla will do just fine. Remember, Toho owns Godzilla and even if Legendary's rights expire Toho is taking a more active role in merchandising and licensing worldwide.

Maybe that means no Hollywood Godzilla movies, but rather Japanese or Asian country co-productions and a chibi Godzilla cartoon early mornings on Nickelodeon? That seems as likely to me as anything else. Of course, Legendairy and WB have some smart folks, and even if these two films lose money they may still see value in the brand name and continue their collaboration under a different strategy. Godzilla will be fine.


^ This right here.

From the identical Cinemascore polling to the second-weekend drop, G:KotM continues to perform like G'14 on a smaller scale despite being such a wildly different movie. Godzilla is just a very known quantity after 65 years and Godzilla movies play to the converted, so there's not going to be a breakout sequel that taps into the cultural zeitgeist on the level of popular Marvel/DC superheroes or the latest Jurassic adventure. The people who want to see the newest Godzilla movie will show up, general audiences will have mixed reactions, and it'll drop fast accordingly because that's what fan-driven franchises do.

Just because Godzilla is never going to be super-popular with mainstream audiences doesn't mean that the Godzilla franchise is doomed. G:KotM has sold an estimated 8,723,300 tickets through just its second weekend in North American theaters. That's a lot of butts in seats to see the Big G on the big screen. So what if it's not Marvel numbers? That just means that they don't need to be spending Marvel money to make Godzilla movies, which isn't something that Godzilla movies ever really needed anyway.


lhb412 wrote:When you see Godzilla vs Kong next year savor Kong's appearance, because that dude goes away for decades at a time!


Sad to say, with Kong: Skull Island having performed so much bigger and leggier than G:KotM, Legendary and WB might be shooting their Kong sequel in the foot by also making it their Godzilla threequel.

One thing that G:KotM's box office performance solidifies is that general audiences do not have any concept of the Monsterverse as a film series. Anecdotally, one of the guys I saw G:KotM with asked me afterward if Skull Island was set in the same world, and he saw Skull Island in the theater on his own two years ago. I saw it on the big screen twice in 2017 and both times only about 2% of the crowd was still in the theater for the post-credits scene.

Most people don't know what the Monsterverse is so there was absolutely no audience goodwill from K:SI carrying over to G:KotM. It might have actually been better for Legendary, WB and the Kong franchise if they had produced a straightforward Kong sequel instead of a Godzilla crossover. Then again, a Kong sequel could have underperformed just like G:KotM is now, as it took a best-case-scenario box office run around the world for K:SI to be a mildly profitable hit. It really might be that beloved monster icons like Kong and Godzilla are the kind of characters that most audiences are only curious about seeing on the big screen once in a generation.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:40 pm

^ I think it's entirely possible that the novelty of Godzilla fighting King Kong is enough to put butts in the seats in a way the mythology of a shared film universe can't. Then again, as bad as it may sound, if that is the case it may behoove WB to realize that is the case and that they can't simply spend the same amount of money on a follow up film and expect it to do the same numbers as the heavyweight match.

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You know, when the Godzilla series was at its height of popularity in Japan in the 60s they did so using this unconventional genre mash-up formula. They used genres and performers that were popular at the time and injected them into the monster plots. What would that look like today? Keanu Reeves as a secret agent, the bad guys he's fighting turn out to be aliens, surprise - it's Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla? Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum go to Monster Island? That's no more strange than King Kong vs. Godzilla being a salaryman comedy!
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby battrafan » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:49 pm

Approaching $300 million worldwide: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?p ... zilla2.htm
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:45 pm

^ Again, we have to re-examine our ideas of popularity. Godzilla made $300 million in 11 days. If the movie cost only $100 million all the executives would the shaking hands and congratulating themselves over how great and smart they are!
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby O.Supreme » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:04 pm

That's the problem though. Could they make a *good* Godzilla film for 100M or even 50 M. Sure. Would it look as good as KotM....not by a long shot. I'd still enjoy the heck out of it, bit it would have likely proportionately less gross.

I know we have seen many smaller budget horror films and comedies do well. But I could easily see a 50M G film opening only to 20M in it's opening weekend no matter how good it looked
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:32 pm

^ Just look at The Host, Shin Godzilla, or Cloverfield. Sure, a few of those are foreign films and as such have had limited play that can't necessarily be called mainstream, nevertheless I've seen them go over like gangbusters with audiences besides your average monster or kaiju fan. By Hollywood standards they were cheap as hell. All it takes is smart filmmaking, and a slick, engaging film can be made for far less money. In other words, concentrate on what you know you can pull off and do it well.

Just imagine how much less Godzilla: King of the Monsters would cost if they eliminated half the cast, subtracted, say, Rodan (even though he's my favorite monster in the movie, he's the least necessary for the plot), and just concentrated on making the human element very engaging, maybe by having Millie Bobby Brown as the audience identification character and having her have actual relationships with the people in the terrorist organization, who are actually characterized an interesting instead of faceless goons? If you make the humans interesting you could have shaved off 10 minutes of monsters and no one would miss it.

Let's take my example of making a Keanu Reeves action movie with Godzilla. John Wick 2 still has the most impressive an incredible action of the series, and that movie cost about 50 million. Now imagine you had an additional fifty million for 20-30 minutes worth of monster footage.

Shazam cost $100 million. That's half as much as the big superhero movies these days. People liked the story, so they didn't care it was less expensive. Warner Brothers even had the confidence to keep the big special effects sequences from the second half of the movie out of the advertising so as they'd be a big surprise!
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Gwangi » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:30 pm

Gwangi wrote:
goji4ever wrote:secret life of pets and dark phoenix should cannibalize enough box office this weekend to sink KOTM...


If I were a betting man, I would say that "Secret Life Pets" may come out as the box-office winner this weekend. The "X-Men" franchise has been wildly uneven and with a title of "Dark Phoenix", I wonder if general audiences will even realize that this is an X-Men or comic book movie?


Maybe I should start becoming a betting man! :mrgreen:

Wishing that a stop-motion feature (like the ones produced from Laika), would get the same love as these generic (and sometimes, not so good) CGI animated movies. :(.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:38 pm

lhb412 wrote:Just look at The Host, Shin Godzilla, or Cloverfield.


Shin Godzilla, while looked upon favorably by fans, did not have GA appeal, thus its very limited run. Cloverfield only works as an oddity. If you had substituted Godzilla for Clover, it wold have been awful

lhb412 wrote:If you make the humans interesting you could have shaved off 10 minutes of monsters and no one would miss it.


Oh I would, definitely have missed it. I would have done the exact opposite. Cut 10 minutes of human story and tighten up the monster action. There were no A list actors in this film. Millie Bobby Brown is an aspiring young actress riding the coattails of a single Netflix series success. I wish her well in her future endeavors, but this wasn't exactly top tier talent, though I personally like several of the actors involved.

The showa series seemed to have just about the right ratio of Monster to human screentime. As much as I like the Heisei films, any one of them could improve by cutting 10 minutes of human subplot. Final Wars (one of the worst G-Films) instantly becomes far better if you cut 30 minutes of human sub plot. KotM did exactly what GA (and I myself asked for) in improving everything the 2014 film lacked, or held back on. I just really don't know why audiences didn't go see it, other than lack of interest.

I know a lot of fans operate under the assumption that only the uneducated or uninitiated want "more monsters/less humans", but I'm here to tell you as a life long fan that just isn't so. Also I hear a lot of fans say "yeah i used to feel that way when i was a kid, then I matured"...I take exception to this, as we ALL have matured. However I know what I signed on for at the age of 3, and now 40 years later, I know what I still want out of a Godzilla movie, and it isn't strong human drama. If that works for certain fans, that is great. But anything closer to Destroy All Monsters, and further away from Fina Wars is definitely good in my book. I really believe KotM 2019 is as about as close of a modern retelling of GTTHM as could be, and I can easily see it crawling up into a top 10 spot among all Godzilla films, similar to GTTHM, and least from my perspective.


lhb412 wrote:Shazam cost $100 million. That's half as much as the big superhero movies these days. People liked the story, so they didn't care it was less expensive. Warner Brothers even had the confidence to keep the big special effects sequences from the second half of the movie out of the advertising so as they'd be a big surprise!


Bu like the first 2 Monsterverse films Shazam was barely profitable, even at much lower budget, and was a HUGE disappointment after Aquaman. (I'm just going by the numbers, personally I vastly preferred Shazam to Aquaman). WB must just be besides themselves wondering "What the *&#$%% do audiences want"...since Aquaman and KotM both had quite a bit of spectacle, but completely different levels of interest. They have so many floundering/failing franchises, it is sad. Seems like for every step forward they take (say with IT or Aquaman), they take 2 steps back. (Harry Potter and Monsterverse aren't sustainable long term, Pokemon was not the franchise starter they had hoped, DC is 1 win for every 3)... what else have they got?
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:13 am

lhb412 wrote:You know, when the Godzilla series was at its height of popularity in Japan in the 60s they did so using this unconventional genre mash-up formula. They used genres and performers that were popular at the time and injected them into the monster plots. What would that look like today? Keanu Reeves as a secret agent, the bad guys he's fighting turn out to be aliens, surprise - it's Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla? Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum go to Monster Island? That's no more strange than King Kong vs. Godzilla being a salaryman comedy!


I think we saw some of the modern version of that last year with Dwayne Johnson in Rampage and Jason Statham in The Meg. One is a gun-filled action movie adapted from a classic arcade game, the other is an ensemble shark thriller based on a 1997 novel. Rampage made $101m in North America and $156m in China toward a $428m worldwide total, 3.56x its $120m production budget. The Meg earned $145m in North America and $153m in China with a total of $530m worldwide, 4.07x its $130m cost.

Godzilla: King of the Monsters is on track to finish just above $100m in North America and its China total could be as high as $149m if it holds up as well as Kong: Skull Island. It probably could have done at least somewhat better if it had a big name actor like Dwayne Johnson, Jason Statham, Samuel L. Jackson or John Goodman headlining the cast.


O.Supreme wrote:That's the problem though. Could they make a *good* Godzilla film for 100M or even 50 M. Sure. Would it look as good as KotM....not by a long shot. I'd still enjoy the heck out of it, bit it would have likely proportionately less gross.

I know we have seen many smaller budget horror films and comedies do well. But I could easily see a 50M G film opening only to 20M in it's opening weekend no matter how good it looked


That's the thing, it wouldn't matter how good it looked or how expensive it was. The current $170m G film just opened 49% lower than its $160m predecessor. If Godzilla vs. Kong sheds the same percentage of opening weekend audience interest, we could be seeing a $190m+ G film open to just $24m next March.

The ubiquity of CGI has turned visual spectacle into something commonplace in film and television. The promise of spectacle is no longer a draw in and of itself, as this decade has had so many big-budget would-be event films that flopped much harder than G:KotM, movies like Jupiter Ascending, Geostorm and Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets.

My guess is that the novelty of King Kong fighting Godzilla will be enough of a draw for GvsK to match G:KotM's $47m opening if not quite K:SI's $61m but there's really no telling. No matter what, any potential Godzilla fourquel should be expected to open lower than all prior Monsterverse entries whether it costs $70m or $250m. Film series that don't break out in popularity only get more fan-driven as they go along and Legendary's Godzilla movies are already geared heavily toward fans.

When there's widespread audience demand for movies featuring Iron Man, Harry Potter, Jack Sparrow or Optimus Prime, studios can afford massive budgets to achieve their signature visual flair because the consumer demand justifies the expense. WB and Legendary invested heavily to try and turn Godzilla into that kind of Hollywood franchise and it just didn't work. There's a significant amount of audience interest in Godzilla but it's not catching on and it's not enough to justify the cost of having multiple VFX companies drowning each individual Godzilla production in CGI.

Instead of giving up on the marketability of a Hollywood-produced Godzilla movie, it would be in the best of interest of WB, Legendary and Toho to simply recognize that Godzilla is not a mega-blockbuster franchise and budget the next follow-up accordingly, so that it can break even just by grossing $200m worldwide. That doesn't mean the movie would have to look bad, just that the special effects would need to be achieved more economically. That's been Godzilla's bread and butter for decades anyway.

G'14 had 960 shots with computer-generated visual effects. That's a lot more than a Godzilla movie really needs. The first Jurassic Park only had 50 but it supplemented them with lots of glorious creature animatronics and puppetry. Imagine if Toho, WB and Legendary collectively threw down $70m on a new film to hire one VFX company to provide about 200 VFX shots, one company to construct some monster animatronics, and at least one name actor to carry the action. That could be a viable way to keep the Monsterverse going.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:36 am

If the audience is fully invested in the story the last thing they'll be worried about is holding up a stopwatch to measure how many seconds Godzilla is on screen. Unfortunately, the 2014 film had a very passive lead character that allowed the audience to become antsy. Filmmaking, in essence, is about manipulation. In the hands of a master manipulator you can be made to believe just about anything. You can believe you seen far more than you really have. And by all means, have a smaller cast and shorter run time! Modern Hollywood has decided simply inflating movies beyond their capacity of characters and subplots justifies their budgets and run times!

But, back to the subject of box office, the movie had another strong weekend in Japan. It's attendance has already beaten Tokyo SOS and Final Wars. It's slightly behind Shin Godzilla, but that's to be expected, right? It's good to see that after the dwindling audience of the Millennium films that Godzilla has a healthy fan base on his home turf.

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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:39 am

Benjamin Haines wrote:
lhb412 wrote:You know, when the Godzilla series was at its height of popularity in Japan in the 60s they did so using this unconventional genre mash-up formula. They used genres and performers that were popular at the time and injected them into the monster plots. What would that look like today? Keanu Reeves as a secret agent, the bad guys he's fighting turn out to be aliens, surprise - it's Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla? Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum go to Monster Island? That's no more strange than King Kong vs. Godzilla being a salaryman comedy!


I think we saw some of the modern version of that last year with Dwayne Johnson in Rampage and Jason Statham in The Meg. One is a gun-filled action movie adapted from a classic arcade game, the other is an ensemble shark thriller based on a 1997 novel. Rampage made $101m in North America and $156m in China toward a $428m worldwide total, 3.56x its $120m production budget. The Meg earned $145m in North America and $153m in China with a total of $530m worldwide, 4.07x its $130m cost.

Godzilla: King of the Monsters is on track to finish just above $100m in North America and its China total could be as high as $149m if it holds up as well as Kong: Skull Island. It probably could have done at least somewhat better if it had a big name actor like Dwayne Johnson, Jason Statham, Samuel L. Jackson or John Goodman headlining the cast.


Get Keanu. Make Keanu the star of this franchise! Who's going to complain that all the monster stuff is in the last 30 minutes when you just watched an hour of Keanu punching aliens in the face?
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby Baltan II » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:12 pm

Like Final Wars but with Keanu as the lead... holy crap.
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Re: the Godzilla box office guessing game.

Postby lhb412 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:44 pm

^ Exactly!

I'm thinking maybe Donny Yen for the alien leader and Tony Jaa for the second in command.

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