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KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (2020!)

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:45 pm

Legendary sets up a possible 'Avengers' style crossover for King Kong and Godzilla
Could they stop by 'Jurassic World' on their way to 'Skull Island'?
Moriarty wrote:While I wouldn't exactly call it a shock, it is a thrill to see Legendary come out strong and stake their claim on "Godzilla 2." The real treat of them going back for a second film is going to be seeing how Toho lets them play with the other toys in the toy box.

One of the things that became clear as they showed their "secret" Monarch footage today is that they have big plans for the Godzilla series. Gareth Edwards has a very dry British wit, and that was on full display when he did his taped message for the audience from San Francisco where he's supposedly supervising the rebuilding of the city. He talked about how he needed to take a break from the pressure of working on high-profile properties that fanboys will have opinions about, a lovely nod to his impending "Star Wars" adventure, and then was interrupted by Godzilla, who was on Alcatraz island, unhappy to be caged in by the military.

The introduction of the three new monsters they plan to use in the sequel was pretty great, done through shadows and suggestion, and I'm totally down for a movie with Mothra, Rodan, and Ghidorah all showing up to rumble. I laughed out loud at the final title card that just read, "Let them fight." I guarantee that whatever movie Gareth makes with these characters next time, it won't just be a repeat of the peekaboo strategy of the first film. I think Edwards is smarter than that, and there's no need to play coy with Godzilla himself.

What I'm most curious about is the other trailer they showed at the end of the Legendary panel, because it feels to me like this is another possible example of the Marvel influence at work. To their credit, Legendary kept this one completely under wraps until now, but I'm not sure I get the point of a stand-alone remake of "King Kong." True, it doesn't look like they're doing a straight remake in the traditional sense, but they revealed the big ape in all his glory at the end of a long tracking push-in through the island, over the wall, past other creatures barely glimpsed. The reaction in the room was, to say the least, confused, and it's more because no one was expecting it than as a real reaction to the idea.

When I called home after the panel to talk to Toshi and Allen, my kids, I knew they'd lose their minds over the idea of which monsters Godzilla's going to get to fight this time. And they did. Or rather, Toshi did. He likes to be the go-between, the one on the phone, conveying the conversation to Allen. To some degree, I agree. Talking to a six year old on a cell phone he's holding is like trying to shave a pilot while he's taking off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. As I listed each one, Toshi would repeat it to his brother, and they'd both give me an "OH MY GOD" or "THAT'S AWESOME." I live off their enthusiasm like I'm a vampire. It's the best thing, and the notion of seeing Rodan, Mothra, and Ghidorah totally works for them.

Then I told Toshi about the last trailer. I described some of the shots, but I didn't tell him about the reveal, and then I told him the title. "You know who lives on Skull Island, right?"

"King Kong," he replied. "That's preohhhhmygodTHATMEANSHECOULDFIGHTGODZILLA!! DADDYARETHEYGOINGTOHAVEHIMFIGHTGODZILLA!!
ALLEN!ALLEN!KINGKONGISGOINGTOFIGHTGODZILLAAAAAAA!!!!"

And then he got excited about it.

At nine, he immediately got the inherent promise of bookending the Legendary panel with those two films. I'm not pretending I have access to some secret game plan. I'm just saying that when a nine-year-old kid's first thought is that it would be amazing to see the monsters from both ends of the Comic-Con panel come together in what every studio is chasing today, a "shared universe."

When the Monarch "secret footage" played, the title cards were very direct. "There is one secret we were never told. There were others." The implication is that the various governments of the world have conspired, even at the end of a world war, to keep a secret about giant monsters that exist in more than one place.

I had a sneaking suspicion they might announce a subtitle for "Godzilla 2" and that it would be very smart to call it "Monster Island." Well, if they've got another island they can cue up as a possible destination for a third "Godzilla" movie, even better. It certainly looks like they've put themselves in the right position to have a clash of the icons for the first time since the preposterously silly 1962 film.

We'll see when they get moving on all of this, and how much appetite audiences have for giant monsters kicking the crap out of other giant monsters. I just know that in the coveted demographic of "kids who live in my house," this entire plan is a smash hit already.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Jorzilla » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:53 pm

Am I missing something or is this still just pure speculation?
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:05 pm

Pure fanboy speculation :wink:
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby msweets13 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:38 pm

I'll add to the already pretty loud chorus that I do not want a crossover to happen. It would be a silly move on their part and would, in my opinion, be a disservice to both monsters. In this case, don't let them fight.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Jorzilla » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:43 pm

Whenever we see Godzilla and Kong enter public domain, we will see a remake.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby walshiam » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Ain't gonna happen.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:59 pm

Typical AICN....posting mere speculation under the guise of being "news". AICN stopped being relative back in the early/mid 2000s...
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby mbozzo » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:47 pm

While I have doubts about a King Kong-Godzilla rematch, I will watch it if it's a good one. :wink:
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby msweets13 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:00 pm

ebirahsmeg1 wrote:Typical AICN....posting mere speculation under the guise of being "news". AICN stopped being relative back in the early/mid 2000s...


I agree. AICN is terrible these days. Even Harry's review of Pacific Rim (a film that is close to being one of my favorite movies of all time) is a bit excessive.

Anyway, back on topic. Even if Legendary wanted to do a crossover, the likelihood of them splitting a three way deal between themselves, WB, and Universal is highly unlikely.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Cookie » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:06 pm

Its not out of the question. The three companies can co-produce.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:43 pm

Just because LP is making a Kong movie doesn't mean there will be a Godzilla crossover in the works. I'm pretty sure Kong will be with Universal wereas Godzilla will remain under WB. As soon as I heard LP was making the Kong prequel I knew someone would assume that there might be a Godzilla vs Kong movie.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby KingKaiju » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:27 am

I think it'd be ridiculous, but hey, I'd be all for Godzilla whoopin on Kong.

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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby Gojiraknight » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:22 am

This article originated on Yahoo, I believe, which doesn't legitimate it by any stretch.

Pure speculation and click-bait. Though there isn't any reason it couldn't happen. This time 5 years ago the consesus was there would never be another American Godzilla film. And now...
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Gwangi » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:35 am

KingKaiju wrote:I think it'd be ridiculous, but hey, I'd be all for Godzilla whoopin on Kong.

#KingKongvsGodzillaconfirmed



Yes, perhaps Godzilla will win this time and settle a score (for which many still deny that he lost the first time around! :P )
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Gojiraknight » Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:05 am

Gwangi wrote:
KingKaiju wrote:I think it'd be ridiculous, but hey, I'd be all for Godzilla whoopin on Kong.

#KingKongvsGodzillaconfirmed



Yes, perhaps Godzilla will win this time and settle a score (for which many still deny that he lost the first time around! :P )



Dammit, he didn't lose. King Kong ran away!

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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby RaptorG » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:15 pm

Gojiraknight wrote:Dammit, he didn't lose. King Kong ran away!
#NeverForget.


You know now that I think about it, wasn't Godzilla on top of King Kong at the last second as they fell into the water? I'm pretty sure that was the case (someone wants to clarify?)
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby walshiam » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:01 pm

Kong was under Godzilla when they hit the water. Godzilla was buried by an underwater landslide during an earthquake. Kong escaped.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby lhb412 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:35 pm

The reason I'm not keen on this shared universe thing is that in Skull Island I want a traditionally Kong-sized Kong, but in a KK vs. G movie he'd have to be sized up, which is fine for that particular kind of movie but I wouldn't want it to be standard.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:25 pm

I just want the giant monster genre to flourish with multiple series growing concurrently as the years go by, not with everything just being a different piece of the same series. I love the thought of a new Godzilla series, a Pacific Rim series, and potentially a series of new King Kong films all coming in the next decade or so. I feel like turning all of that into the giant monster version of the Marvel Cinematic Universe would devalue the individual series.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby lhb412 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:32 pm

Yup.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Hybrid Gojira » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:37 pm

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:Just because LP is making a Kong movie doesn't mean there will be a Godzilla crossover in the works. I'm pretty sure Kong will be with Universal wereas Godzilla will remain under WB. As soon as I heard LP was making the Kong prequel I knew someone would assume that there might be a Godzilla vs Kong movie.


This.

I have no desire for Godzilla to fight Kong. For one, there are far more interesting monsters I'd like to see. Secondly, Kong would need to be scaled to a preposterous size to fight Godzilla, and at some point you lose that ability to interact with humans the way that Kong does. If this movie actually happened, I'd watch it, but I think some of the necessities for Kong would make him kinda...unKong like.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Cookie » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:07 am

Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:Just because LP is making a Kong movie doesn't mean there will be a Godzilla crossover in the works. I'm pretty sure Kong will be with Universal wereas Godzilla will remain under WB. As soon as I heard LP was making the Kong prequel I knew someone would assume that there might be a Godzilla vs Kong movie.


Its not out of the realm of possibilities. Just because its WB and Universal doesn't mean they wouldn't coproduce. Just because its not really what we as fans want, the general audience would eat this up.. Its why KKvsG did great at the BO. The film doesn't necessarily have to be in their respective worlds either... Like how TDK movies play no part in the Superman/Justice League world.

Its a money maker idea... and if WB and Universal aren't talking about it
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Cookie » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:14 am

Hybrid Gojira wrote:
Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:Just because LP is making a Kong movie doesn't mean there will be a Godzilla crossover in the works. I'm pretty sure Kong will be with Universal wereas Godzilla will remain under WB. As soon as I heard LP was making the Kong prequel I knew someone would assume that there might be a Godzilla vs Kong movie.


This.

I have no desire for Godzilla to fight Kong. For one, there are far more interesting monsters I'd like to see. Secondly, Kong would need to be scaled to a preposterous size to fight Godzilla, and at some point you lose that ability to interact with humans the way that Kong does. If this movie actually happened, I'd watch it, but I think some of the necessities for Kong would make him kinda...unKong like.


Stop thinking about this from a fan perspective.. But financially. KKvsG, a movie from the 60's is the best performing G film at the BO. With LP kind of the middle man, the possibility is there.
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2!

Postby Gwangi » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:37 am

Hybrid Gojira wrote:
Tom R VanSlambrouck wrote:Just because LP is making a Kong movie doesn't mean there will be a Godzilla crossover in the works. I'm pretty sure Kong will be with Universal wereas Godzilla will remain under WB. As soon as I heard LP was making the Kong prequel I knew someone would assume that there might be a Godzilla vs Kong movie.


This.

I have no desire for Godzilla to fight Kong. For one, there are far more interesting monsters I'd like to see. Secondly, Kong would need to be scaled to a preposterous size to fight Godzilla, and at some point you lose that ability to interact with humans the way that Kong does. If this movie actually happened, I'd watch it, but I think some of the necessities for Kong would make him kinda...unKong like.


Of course, they could go the other way around. Perhaps a Godzilla Jr. not fully grown, but capable of causing massive descruction and thus he needs to be matched up as Kong's sparing partner. Let them fight! (as Mr. Tako nods approvingly!)

Or maybe future plots will involve an evil meglomanic scientist after Element X, and using Kong for his own purposes! :mrgreen:
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Re: KING KONG VS GODZILLA 2 (rumor and speculation)

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:44 am

Guys... aren't we all forgetting Pacific Rim's dimensional rifts?

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