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Postby lhb412 » Thu May 30, 2019 9:09 am

Huh, Variety is now forecasting 70 million domestic opening. That's fifteen million higher then the 55 million everyone was predicting. There's always a bit more people going to see these movies then they think, eh?

The reviews and reaction to the movie so far has been quite fun. The extremely positive reviews and extremely negative ones all seem to be reacting to the exact same things!
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Postby Gargantuan Gargantua » Thu May 30, 2019 9:31 am

Hey Jelly. This is a strange question but if the theater you went to had a decent sound system... how was the surround sound? I remember I was really impressed with G'14's low frequency effects.

I put a transducer in my love seat for my 'home theater' and whenever Godzilla's feet slam down at the airport scene always made me giddy how much it makes things shake.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu May 30, 2019 9:40 am

I don't think the technical aspects of the movie are as well done as 2014, in general. The CGI doesn't have the same weight-y feel, the visuals are more scattershot and even (perhaps ESPECIALLY) the quieter moments don't pack the same visual punch, and the sound is just like a shotgun to the ears. It's a movie whose general philosophy is "more is more" and any pauses or quiet are boring and must be eliminated.
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Postby The Giant Pacific Octopus » Thu May 30, 2019 11:01 am

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Postby The Giant Pacific Octopus » Thu May 30, 2019 11:45 am

Still not buying it. There is no way in Hell John Goodman is that expensive.
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Postby lhb412 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:30 pm

Bigger names and a crazy amount of location footage... yeah, I can see Kong costing more.
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Postby Dai » Thu May 30, 2019 12:42 pm

Location filming is often the biggest expense on movie productions, and KotM has vastly less of it than G2014 or Skull Island. KotM feels like about 10-20% location work, versus maybe 60% for G2014, and probably 70% for Skull Island. It's a much more indoor and claustrophobic movie, despite the epic scope of its kaiju battles. Just think of all those scenes in G2014 where there were hundreds or thousands of extras; KotM has none of that, with maybe the exception of one scene in the middle. It's pretty clear where they freed up money for the effects.
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Postby mrbluehair » Thu May 30, 2019 2:47 pm

Go see the movie with a clear mind, form your own opinions, hopefully you”lol have a great time. I know I will.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu May 30, 2019 2:54 pm

Yeah KOTM didn't even film in Boston at all because they got lucky and found some random street in Georgia that "looked a lot like a typical Boston street"
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Postby Henry88 » Thu May 30, 2019 3:46 pm

it seem to be doing well on IMDB Reviews wise

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Postby lhb412 » Thu May 30, 2019 5:19 pm

Agh... three hours till I get to see the movie. It's the last stretch where anticipation becomes intolerable, like the last hours of school before summer vacation.
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Postby angilas » Thu May 30, 2019 6:31 pm

I don’t see the final wars comparisons. Maybe I’m terms of nonstop action and kaiju vs kaiju constantly etc but in terms of campiness etc FW was a huge disappointment. Back in 2003 when kitamura was selected we were expecting >GMK which as well as its received now was expected to be as impressive as the Gamera trilogy. Maybe to some it was but GMK was slightly a let down to those blown away by GGOTU when it came out, and every Kaneko G film since. The difference was he lost his spfx director. FW suffered from a rushed production and cramming too much into one film. I enjoyed this and honk most fans will. It worked. Maybe not for reviewers but I think for most of us who’ve been watching for 20/30 years
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Postby gyaos » Thu May 30, 2019 7:04 pm

Box Office Mojo just came out with their prediction for opening weekend.

53 million.

The Monserverse is over after G vs K if that’s accurate.

The predictions for China are underwhelming, as well. 60-70 million, which would be considered disappointing. They did underestimate Aladdin, however.

My theater is Marcus Majestic in WI and the sales for the 4 pm shows were slow, the 7pm timeslot was better, but 9PM and after are empty.
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Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Thu May 30, 2019 8:50 pm

I went to the 4:25pm showing at my local theater tonight with my Dad and nephews. There wasn't a lot of people in the theater but it could improve tomorrow and over the weekend.

As for the movie itself I thought it was good. I loved the monster stuff but the human stuff was meh.
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Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu May 30, 2019 11:29 pm

In short: an overwhelming ungodly mess.

I was so hoping to fall head over heels with this film. Alas, twas not meant to be. Pacing (or should I say the abysmal lack of) just kills this film. As Jelly said in his review, this thing is breakneck from frame one and there's literally only one brief pause before we're being shoved into another set piece. The human element is a trainwreck. A cabal of high profile/award-winning actors doesn't mean jack when they're given nothing but garbage lines to deliver and no sense of emotional centering; they're just mostly caught up in the whirlpool and sucked along. Dance is completely wasted; an utter shame. Everyone else coughs up idiotic verbiage that might've been cute in a 1950's B-flick, but is downright cringe-worthy nowadays. We CAN do better, and should have. By comparison, the plot and script of K vs. KG in 1991 is the zenith of G-films. The "humor" in this, in fact the entire script, feels like it was written by a collective of 6th graders who downed a case of Monster and Red Bull and referenced a stack of well-thumbed MAD magazines. And I'll grant you that Mike Dougherty appears to truly be a hardcore kaiju fan, but his direction leaves oh so much to be desired. He's about as subtle as a sledgehammer blow to the face. The soundmix? An overpowering typhoon of loudness. I literally had a headache when the movie was over from the assault on my eardrums. The bits of the classic Toho scores were almost imperceptible; buried alive under an audio avalanche of pounding music with no narrative, and the sound F/X design felt like the technicians found every single explosion, thunderclap and earthquake noise they could lay their hands on and just layered them one atop another atop another until it all just blended together in excessive painful wall of doomy-gloomy noise.

Effects were a mostly impressive bag, This film;s only saving grace in fact, but it was hard to tell thanks to all the CGI rain and murkiness hiding most everything. I'm sorry, but I am absolutely fed up with night time & rain laid over the top of hero/monster scenes. There's just no excuse anymore! K:SI proved that daylight battles with fully CGI creatures is doable and, for the most part, practical. The sludgy darkness in this flick is a HUGE step BACKWARDS. Costs too much and takes longer to render accurately??? Fine. I'd rather have only two setpiece fights in broad daylight than an half dozen in near total darkness and/or pouring rain. *SIGH* Also not caring for a Godzilla so stump-necked that his head is practically coming directly out of his shoulders now. Ugh. Ghidorah's heads were too rubbery/undulating in the film. But I did like the extra layer of believable body and wing/flight movement; he's not the stiff wire-flown beast of days past and that at least is a good thing. Mothra and Rodan too under-used, given the implication in the various trailers that they'd be equal time-sharers with the other two guys. Mothra was the biggest waste; she was literally a deus ex machina, and a poorly explained one at that. Rodan got some real love finally; he had probably the best entrance and a terrific display of powers. Best portrayal of the big red bird since his '57 debut.

If next year's G vs K turns out to be on the same level as this then I think I'll skip theater showings and wait for home video for any further MonsterVerse entries after 2020. Man, I am bummed. I was so looking forward to this. Perhaps it was too much of a build-up and five years of waiting & wanting. I am torn about more of the same as well. I want this to succeed because I want more Godzilla, but if everything from here on in is more of this then I'd just as soon it revert back to Toho. Honestly, I don't feel that G:KotM deserves a big BO. As always, IMHO, YMMV, etc.
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Postby LoneWolfandCub » Fri May 31, 2019 12:52 am

Just got back from seeing "Godzilla, King of the Monsters" 5/30 at 6 PM PST. Only 20 people in the theater but I suspect most folks were staying home to watch Game 1 of the NBA Finals.

NO SPOILERS HERE!

The film is very, very LOUD. This is not a film for a child under 10 y/o, just too intense.

There are a TON of Easter Eggs and nods to other G films. Some subtle, some in-your-face. I promise you will laugh out loud at some while your non-G-Fans will ask you "what's so funny?" Can you catch them all? I won't list any until more of you have seen the film .

A half hour could have been cut from the film. But compared to the 2014 film, this is way down on human drama and way up on monsters!

An. yes, there is an after-scene. Which will make you laugh out loud or groan.

Enjoy!
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