GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby Gojira07 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:32 am

lhb412 wrote:Oooh, I quite like this new poster.

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This really just highlights how much they've 'fixed' the 14 design. I love the tweaks they've made.
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Postby Kailem » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:11 am

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Kailem wrote:I dunno, it's brief but that sounds pretty Mothra-like to me. Rodan's doesn't sound much like his signature roar, but the clip is so short it could just be "random Rodan sound", like the growls they gave Godzilla in the Heisei era. Given how largely accurate the designs are to their classic counterparts I doubt they'd go the complete opposite direction with the roars.


Godzilla got a new roar in 2014 so it's only right that Legendary should make new roars for the other monsters. Updating monster voices over time has long been one of Toho's hallmarks and I'm glad that Legendary has kept up that tradition instead of just recycling old sound bytes. From what little we hear in those clips, Mothra and Rodan certainly sound like themselves, especially Mothra's high-pitched shriek. I hope we get to hear what Ghidorah sounds like in the new trailer.


Indeed, I thought they did a great job with the 2014 roar (other than their penchant for sometimes leaving off the end of it :P ). It was still very much classic, just updated a bit and tweaked slightly to give it its own unique sound compared to all the rest. I'm certainly looking forward to hearing all the Legendary versions of everyone else's too.

Benjamin Haines wrote:The one thing that really gives me pause about what we've seen so far is in Mothra's new design. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what I'm seeing in the photos of the Mothra toy but it looks to me like her backmost pair of legs are attached to her body at the abdomen instead of at the thorax. If that's the case then it'll give her a body shape closer to a feline or a deer than an insect.


It'd makes sense if that was the case. They've taken design cues from various different animals over the years when it comes to some of Godzilla's different appearances, I suppose we're just not as used to it when it comes to anyone else.
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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby Gwangi » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:26 am

jellydonut25 wrote:
Gwangi wrote:Yeah, I don't think that was a smart move on Legendary's part. I don't mind the waiting, but we ALL now have to be on guard for any online leaks, which for sure, will be poor in quality.

I think it's a smart move, actually. Odds of it being leaked from SDCC: HUGE. Odds if it being leaked from...NOT SDCC: pretty small (as the evidence now shows - I haven't seen or even heard of any leaks and it's been HOURS).


Well, that the good thing, BUT it still does not make it fun trying to avoid all these potential leaks. There is a joker in every deck after all. So far, Comic-Con Brazil has done a great job with no leaks.
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Postby TerranigmaFreak » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:45 pm

Should we make a new thread just for the trailer when it drops or keep it in this thread? The whole no spoiler thing makes me second guess things. It might also make it easier for people to find in a new thread?
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Postby lhb412 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:48 pm

^ I say do it. I'm going to try to avoid the trailer.
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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby lhb412 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:24 pm

2019 is almost upon us. The year of Godzilla!
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Postby tbeasley » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:00 pm

They did such a great job tweaking the design
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Postby Gentleman » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:23 pm

Indeed. I'll be very sorry to see the end of the MonsterVerse.
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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby lhb412 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:57 pm

Gentleman wrote:Indeed. I'll be very sorry to see the end of the MonsterVerse.


That's a weird attitude to have. No matter what, we're getting two movies (in addition to the two we already have). I think that's awesome on its own, whether or not we get more, right?
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Postby Gentleman » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:03 pm

It's undoubtedly awesome. It's way more than I could have wished for, and if you'd told me ten years ago that we'd ever see anything like this in American cinema I'd have said you were crazy. But, like so many spoiled children, I just want more.
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Postby lhb412 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:07 pm

^ Ha! I love that you admit it! I think we all probably let our inner spoiled child out sometimes, especially when it comes to fandom.

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Postby Gentleman » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:33 pm

Oh, no doubt. Especially when it comes to a property that inherently appeals to all of our inner children, no matter how deeply (or shallowly, in some cases) those children may lie.

And yes, I like to think of myself as very self-aware.
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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby Henry88 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:42 am

The Shared Godzilla Universe Isn’t Following Marvel’s Formula—That’s Why It’s Successful
https://observer.com/2018/12/marvel-kin ... ers-verse/
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Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:09 pm

Most interesting thing about the above article is that the author states there in addition to tho two existing films (G'14 & K:SI) there are still 2 more Monsterverse films in the pipe. Did I miss something here?!? What's due down the road other than GvK???
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Postby Gwangi » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:31 pm

I believe the author meant the two remaining features, G:KOTM and G vs K. Of course, if the ladder does gangbusters, one can bet that Legendary and Toho will try to re-negotiate this deal.
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Postby Kailem » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:15 pm

I'm not sure exactly how "non-spoilery" some people consider "no spoilers" to be, but there's an awesome new pic of Ghidorah that was released yesterday that I'll put in spoiler tags just in case, for anyone checking this thread who might be trying to avoid seeing the monsters' new looks (the pic itself isn't actually spoilery):

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Postby Gentleman » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:17 pm

Gwangi wrote:I believe the author meant the two remaining features, G:KOTM and G vs K. Of course, if the ladder does gangbusters, one can bet that Legendary and Toho will try to re-negotiate this deal.


I'd love to see that happen, but from what I've read Toho seems to have the wheels already in motion for their own new Godzilla and Godzilla-related projects. In the past they haven't wanted to share their toys simultaneously, but in the past their American licenses haven't paid off in either receipts or goodwill. As much as I'd love to be an optimist and say that there's a shot at two coexisting Godzilla universes, and as much as I'd love to be proven wrong, I just don't see it in the cards.
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Postby angilas » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:43 am

Kailem wrote:I'm not sure exactly how "non-spoilery" some people consider "no spoilers" to be, but there's an awesome new pic of Ghidorah that was released yesterday that I'll put in spoiler tags just in case, for anyone checking this thread who might be trying to avoid seeing the monsters' new looks (the pic itself isn't actually spoilery):

Spoiler Below:
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Woah! But wait, is that a
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Postby Kailem » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:05 pm

Yeah they showed it in the trailer multiple times. I really like the potential implication of bringing over/introducing Monsterverse versions of some of the anti-Godzilla tech from the original films. It's certainly something I'd like to see.

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Gwangi wrote:I believe the author meant the two remaining features, G:KOTM and G vs K. Of course, if the ladder does gangbusters, one can bet that Legendary and Toho will try to re-negotiate this deal.


I'd love to see that happen, but from what I've read Toho seems to have the wheels already in motion for their own new Godzilla and Godzilla-related projects. In the past they haven't wanted to share their toys simultaneously, but in the past their American licenses haven't paid off in either receipts or goodwill. As much as I'd love to be an optimist and say that there's a shot at two coexisting Godzilla universes, and as much as I'd love to be proven wrong, I just don't see it in the cards.


Toho would only be hurting themselves by not allowing the American films to continue if Legendary wanted them to. Unless KotM and GvsKK are received terribly, these films are only keeping Godzilla popular and in the public eye around the world, which only helps them if and when they start putting out their own films again. Between the 2014 film, Shin Godzilla, and the hype for KotM the franchise hasn't been this popular in years. Hell I'm sure even the anime is doing something for someone out there. :P

I'd absolutely imagine that if the contract gets renegotiated that Toho will want to ditch the clause that prevents them from making their own Godzilla movies at the same time Legendary is making theirs since they've kinda been left sitting on their hands after Shin Godzilla as a result, but that would only be a good thing for all concerned.
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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby lhb412 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 1:20 pm

In regards to the idea of Legendary renegotiating with Toho... this gave me a chuckle:

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Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:08 pm

lhb412 wrote:In regards to the idea of Legendary renegotiating with Toho... this gave me a chuckle:

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https://mobile.twitter.com/AstoundingBB ... 6343215104


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Postby TerranigmaFreak » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:11 pm

Henry88 wrote:The Shared Godzilla Universe Isn’t Following Marvel’s Formula—That’s Why It’s Successful
https://observer.com/2018/12/marvel-kin ... ers-verse/


That's cause it's following Godzilla's formula of shared universe.
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Postby Henry88 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:49 pm

the only thing that bothers me is that Aladdin hits May 24 and godzilla is may 31 that may cause problems.
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Postby angilas » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:02 am

Henry88 wrote:the only thing that bothers me is that Aladdin hits May 24 and godzilla is may 31 that may cause problems.


Definitely not ideal, but in March you run into Captain Marvel in the second week, Shazaam! in the first week of April, avengers End Game in the final, June it’s Dark Phoenix week 1, the MiB reboot week 2, Child’s play and Toy Story 4 week 3, July is Spider-Man far from home on independence weekend, and the Lion King the 3rd week, and finally week 1 of August you have The Fast and the Furious spinoff. Within that 6 month blockbuster window there’s no ideal time and I’m sure WB moved it to avoid undercutting their own release of Shazaam! a week after it was originally due.

I’m sure they wanted it released as a blockbuster and hoped some of Aladdin’s steam would fizzle after the Memorial Day weekend. I’m doubtful and they may command different audiences despite some venn diagram overlap, but I can’t think of anywhere else to put it that’s less problematic. Before Captain Marvel, Avengers 4, Spider-Man, the lion king, or FF8.5 it loses its number 1 ranking, and after any one of those movies it probably never even gets one. Not sure it beats Aladdin in week 2, but super hero and PG13 blockbusters undercut Godzilla more and though the Disney reimaginings are nothing to scoff at, the lion king would be the worst the king of the monsters could face https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchise ... action.htm

I doubt this has the near 100M opening weekend of the first but on the bright side it looks to give the people more of what they want and schools let out when it comes out so it will have some nice daily returns even during the week, which you don’t see at this time of year or even in March or April. Box office theory folks are expecting 600M+ Worldwide for the highest grossing giant monster film outside of Jurassic Park. The film to beat domestically is King Kong from 2005 at $218M and worldwide it’s kong skull island at $566M. G14 did $200M domestic and $529M worldwide. KKvG should do really well...
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Postby TerranigmaFreak » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:46 pm

AVOID LOOKING AT TOYS IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS!!!! I ALREADY GOT SPOILED LOOKING AT THE JAKKS PACIFIC TOYS!
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