New series? and how others may tie into it?

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Postby mechaghidrah » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:47 pm

Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! wrote:I'm really excited for a new kaiju as well. New kaiju for Godzilla to fight is about as Godzilla as you can get. Back in the 60s and 70s, you were almost guaranteed a new monster in each movie.

The New Monster and Old Monster in the same film idea could work the best imo if this were to become an ongoing series.

I never got the complaints about using a new monster for this new movie. Why not!?

Jelly made a very damn good point. King Ghidorah used to be a new kaiju.


You're comparing the incredible design of King Ghidorah to the insect-like new monsters in the new film?

People will have forgotten those things a month after Godzilla has left theaters.

It's not easy to make new monsters that people want to see again.. Even in the excellent Kaneko Gamera trilogy, the best opponent was Gyaos and that's an old monster.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby jellydonut25 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:36 am

^Legion is a top ten (at least) kaiju for me and some people's number one.

With the MUTOs, Edwards has done something that Toho hasn't been able to do in many many years: created a new kaiju that fans are excited to see and are actually talking about
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby mr.negativity » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:40 pm

Legendary's Thomas Tull Talks 'Godzilla,' Universal Move, China Plans in Rare Interview
As Legendary Pictures gets ready to unleash its new Godzilla movie on May 16, Legendary CEO Thomas Tull said that the $160 million movie could begin to turn a profit once it hits $450 million at the worldwide boxoffice.
Gregg Kilday wrote:“Starting a new franchise, if it did $450 million worldwide, anything above that would be pretty good. It’s still expensive, but it’s not a $200 million movie,” Tull explained as part of a wide-ranging interview conducted by Hollywood Reporter executive editor Matthew Belloni at THR’s annual Power Lawyers Breakfast, which took place April 30 at Spago in Beverly Hills.

Legendary spearheaded the reboot of the venerable Japanese monster movie, putting up 75 percent of the budget, with Warner Bros., which is releasing the film, handling the rest.

Why mount a new Godzilla when the last version, released by Sony in 1998, received a mixed reception, grossing $379 million worldwide? “We make movies I want to see,” said Tull. “I’ve loved Godzilla since I was a kid.” He explained that Legendary’s re-imaging of Godzilla was akin to how Christopher Nolan re-invigorated Batman in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, on which Legendary also partnered with Warners. “Everyone said that franchise is broken, but Chris had a vision. Sometimes instead of just talking about it, you just have to do it and show folks this is our version of it,” Tull said.

In this case, Tull is betting on Gareth Edwards, a young British director, whose previous film was the low-budget indie Monsters (2010). “I was blown away by his movie Monsters, which he made for $500,000. He did the effects on his laptop. I thought if we give him another half a million dollars…,” Tull said, getting a laugh from the room full of high-powered attorneys.

He also credited Legendary president and chief creative officer Jon Jashni and his film team “for constantly looking for real voices and great directors. That’s part of our thing. Zack Snyder (Watchmen), Guillermo Del Toro (Pacific Rim), now Gareth. We try to stand next to people who are more talented than we are and make a business out it.”

But Tull shut down any speculation about a possible Godzilla sequel lurking in the shadows, saying, “We don’t ever talk about sequels until we’ve earned that right. I’m superstitious about it.”
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby mr.negativity » Tue May 06, 2014 5:55 pm

Exclusive: The 300 Franchise is Staying at Warner Bros.
Legendary Pictures has split from Warner Bros., but the 300 franchise is staying put. Plus: updates on Warcraft, Batman vs. Superman and Seventh Son.
Fred Topel wrote: This weekend I got to speak with Legendary Films’ CEO Thomas Tull about Godzilla. We’ll bring you the full interview on Godzilla next week in which Tull shared some interesting background on the film’s tone and visual effects. At the end of our talk I did ask Tull about some other Legendary films and will simply present the end of the Q&A here.

Some highlights to note are perhaps the most definitive answer we’re likely to get on future Legendary/Warner Brothers films. Legendary moved to Universal, and Tull has dodged questions about where a Godzilla sequel might land, saying he’s focused on this movie. I may have caught Tull off guard asking about the 300 franchise. Since Rise of an Empire is open for a sequel, Tull did suggest that it would stay at WB. Also see news on the post-production schedule for Warcraft, the rating of Dracula Untold and Angelina Jolie’s second directorial film, Unbroken.


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Postby kiryugoji04 » Thu May 08, 2014 4:30 am

mechaghidrah wrote:It's not easy to make new monsters that people want to see again.


Well that's because fans are stupid.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby mr.negativity » Sat May 10, 2014 7:47 am

As It Unleashes 'Godzilla,' Legendary Pictures Makes Big Moves
Thomas Tull's company is settling into its new deal at Universal as its ambitions grow.
Gregg Kilday wrote:Thomas Tull, CEO of Legendary Pictures, wants to do more than just write checks. Nearly 10 years ago, when Tull, a onetime laundromat owner-turned-investment banker, first showed up at Warner Bros. with $500 million he raised, the studio happily signed him to help back two dozen films. But Legendary's summer 2013 move from Warners to a five-year deal at Universal largely was about becoming a more active producer, a goal that had chafed former studio head Jeff Robinov. And Godzilla, which launches May 16 as the final Legendary movie released in the U.S. by Warners, is a step in that autonomous direction.

The $165 million-budgeted return of the giant lizard marks the second major in-house production from Legendary -- which oversaw development as well as the physical shoot in Vancouver and Hawaii -- following last summer's Pacific Rim. Guillermo del Toro's $190 million monsters-vs.-robots epic took in $411 million worldwide (including $112 million in China). It squeaked into the black, says the company, but was no blockbuster, and a sequel has not been greenlighted.

Instead of trying to summon echoes of monsters past, Legendary has gone straight to the source, licensing Godzilla rights from Japan's Toho Co. And Tull has entrusted the movie to British newcomer Gareth Edwards, whose previous film as a director (Monsters) was made for about $500,000. Tull says Godzilla will break even "if it [does] $450 million worldwide. Anything above that would be pretty good." Tracking suggests a $60 million-plus opening in the U.S., much bigger than Pacific Rim's $37 million. Still, the film is a gamble -- Godzilla's previous big-screen incarnation, released by Sony in 1998, did only $379 million worldwide. Legendary is shouldering 75 percent of the budget and the cost of prints and advertising on the new film.

Even before Godzilla's release, Tull was focusing on his new life at Universal. In 2012, he assembled $720 million in new financing, including $443 million from Wadell & Reed Financial. Eager to expand into television, digital and even theme parks, he found a much more eager taker in Universal, which was seeking a financing partner to replace Relativity and to limit exposure on the big-budget movies Tull enjoys backing. "They were aggressive about what they wanted us to do and how we would fit in," says Tull.

Sources say Legendary agreed for the first two years of the deal to invest $275 million annually in movies it co-finances with Universal as well as those it fully finances. That number rises to $350 million a year for the final three years. Legendary pays a 10 percent distribution fee on the movies it co-finances -- on par with its Warners deal -- but it only has to pay 8 percent on its fully financed features and will have control over the marketing spend on those pics. (Legendary has an in-house marketing team run by Emily Castel.)

Legendary's first Universal release is the low-budget found-footage movie As Above, So Below, set in the sewers of Paris, coming in August. It also has taken a stake in two of Universal's other 2014 releases: The Untold Dracula and the awards hopeful Unbroken, which Angelina Jolie is directing. Beginning in 2015, Legendary will have a much bigger influence on the Universal slate, releasing two movies that it has fully financed -- Michael Mann's Cyber and the fantasy The Seventh Son -- and investing in Jurassic World, which Universal already was moving forward on.

Other parts of the new Legendary are works in progress. In June, Tull enlisted Bruce Rosenblum, former Warner Bros. Television Group president, to run a TV and digital media unit, which he is building out. And through his Hong Kong-based Legendary East, Tull has struck a co-production deal with China Film Group. No new films have come out of that pact yet, but CFG has made an eight-figure investment in Seventh Son and the video game-based Warcraft, scheduled for 2016. Now Tull must wait to see if his sweat as well as his equity pays off.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Destroysall » Fri May 16, 2014 6:14 am

Ok, now let me address my hopes for a sequel. I do hope they venture into a darker route because they really can with the next one. Godzilla wasn't the main threat in this one, but in the next one, he very much could be. Think about it.. Godzilla is an animal at large. A monster that could end the world and that has no apparent way to die. The military would go nuts about him along with the government and the people of the world would perhaps remain forever haunted that a Godzilla attack is possible at any given time. You have also the crazies who want a part of Godzilla, like his skin cells and whatnot.. So what if mankind starts attacking nature and Godzilla as well? This builds up the allegory of mankind being arrogant and destroying nature, thinking that it is still theirs to control. Godzilla becomes hostile then towards man and seeks to obliterate them. With no hope left, Mothra appears and fights for the sake of the humans? It would lead to Mothra still being a hero and Godzilla becoming the anti-hero much more.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby king_ghidorah » Fri May 16, 2014 6:42 am

I actually hope they keep Godzilla as the "hero" more or less. It's a refreshing take on the character and one of the things I liked most about the movie.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby kiryugoji04 » Fri May 16, 2014 9:57 am

Personally, I could see the sequel taking a Gamera 3-esque route with Godzilla in the sense that no matter how "heroic" he may have been in this film, he's still a giant monster causing godawful collateral damage and people aren't going to take too kindly to that. I think that'd be fantastic, actually.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Psycho Soldier » Fri May 16, 2014 2:50 pm

kiryugoji04 wrote:Personally, I could see the sequel taking a Gamera 3-esque route with Godzilla in the sense that no matter how "heroic" he may have been in this film, he's still a giant monster causing godawful collateral damage and people aren't going to take too kindly to that. I think that'd be fantastic, actually.


Yup, this is exactly what I want, too. They could tie it back to the tsunami scene with a character whose relative(s) or friend(s) died when Godzilla showed up. I feel the last few minutes of the movie made Godzilla seem a bit too heroic, so to see the flip side of that would 'restore the balance,' so to speak.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Gojilove » Fri May 16, 2014 2:53 pm

I would love a sequel to pickup in the wake of this. Very much the way Biollante picked up after Return. A lot of destruction/rebuilding.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Hybrid Gojira » Fri May 16, 2014 3:09 pm

Spoilers, I guess?
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There's a bazillion ways this could play out, but the new series makes it easy to introduce new monsters and brings the possibility for King Ghidorah to enter from space. At some point, it would be easy to accept aliens existing if we can accept giant monsters. There could even be other divisions of Monarch we are unaware of which are keeping other beasts from entering the fray as they did with MUTO...or a super weapons division that brings some new ideas into the fray (not necessarily MG). We also have a bioengineering angle..which could of course mean new mutations and such. I don't think any of these ideas are a stretch for the new universe.

Personally, I'd like to see Rodan and Ang make an appearance.

Wasn't there a rumor that LP purchased the rights to 5 Toho kaiju? Did we ever find out which monsters they were?
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Destroysall » Fri May 16, 2014 7:04 pm

I personally think Mothra is the next monster they would use only because of her heavy reference in his movie.

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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby DannyBeane » Fri May 16, 2014 7:20 pm

Would give all my wants to have a same universe rodan solo film. Rodan could be Legendarys Iron Man, a known but still obscure character. Expand the universe!
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby lhb412 » Fri May 16, 2014 8:53 pm

I think the Muto's insectoid, cocooning, Moth-similarity, and egg-layin' ways have taken the wind out of Mothra... for the direct sequel, at least.

Edwards has said he'd love to do a film revolving around the 'Monster Island' concept. Maybe the actions of Godzilla and the Mutos draw up some of the other kaiju to the surface world, and something draws them, makes them congregate on one island. Angilas, Rodan, Baragon, Manda... they could be Godzilla's "peers."

I'd love to see Rodan be Godzilla's main opponent.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby The Shadow » Fri May 16, 2014 9:09 pm

I like the idea of a hidden faction or splinter group from Monarch, a lot of plot potential there. Give the group a name meaning king/ruler/etc. in a different language, "Archon" maybe (Greek, same root a "monarch")?
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby we77964 » Fri May 16, 2014 11:00 pm

I think the unmade Toho movies need to be looked at for sequels.

1) A solo King Ghrioah movie
2)) Bagan
3) Godzilla vs. the Asuka Fortress.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Kaiju Nexus » Fri May 16, 2014 11:35 pm

So, any speculation as to what the bones in the beginning of the film belonged to?

Once Serizawa mentioned that there were many prehistoric radiation-feeding creatures around during the time of Godzilla and the MUTOs (paraphrasing), I immediately assumed that those bones didn't belong necessarily to an ancient Godzilla, but something else entirely.

Whatever it was, it obviously had a long tail like Godzilla.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby jellydonut25 » Sat May 17, 2014 12:07 pm

Kaiju Nexus wrote:So, any speculation as to what the bones in the beginning of the film belonged to?

Another Godzilla. I don't think we're supposed to overthink it.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby mr.negativity » Sat May 17, 2014 12:30 pm

THR:
Box Office: 'Godzilla' Stomps Toward $100 Million Domestic Debut
The summer's second tentpole took in a whopping $38.5 million on Friday, the biggest day of the year so far.
Pamela McClintock wrote:If traffic holds, the Legendary Pictures and Warner Bros. tentpole could best the $95 million debut of Captain America: The Winter Soldier and the $91.6 million opening of The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Godzilla, earning a B+ CinemaScore, is doing especially strong business in Imax theaters, which generated $6.1 million in Friday ticket sales.

Pre-release tracking had suggested that Godzilla would reach $65 million in its domestic launch.


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Maane Khatchatourian wrote:The King of the Monsters is also king of the box office.

“Godzilla” obliterated the competition with a $38.5 million Stateside opening on Friday, the largest debut day of the year. This includes $9.3 million from Thursday night screenings. At $6.2 million, the creature feature also earned 2014′s biggest Imax opening.

The Warner Bros.-Legendary Pictures reboot of the Japanese classic is on track for a much-higher-than-anticipated $98 million this weekend, which would be the best opening of the year so far.

This also means the tentpole could top the openings of “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” and “The Amazing Spider-Man 2,” which launched to $95 million and $91.6 million, respectively.

If that figure holds, it will also mark the highest grossing debut for a monster movie to date, ahead of the last record holder, “The Lost World: Jurassic Park,” which opened to $72 million in 1997.

Gareth Edwards’ “Godzilla” is undoing the damage done by Sony’s 1998 big-budget disaster. Roland Emmerich’s pic starring Matthew Broderick opened to lackluster reviews and grossed only $6 million more Stateside than its $130 million production budget (it hauled $380 million worldwide). In fact, the last three Godzilla movies have flopped domestically, with “Godzilla 1985” grossing $4 million and “Godzilla 2000” making $10 million.

“Godzilla” had also grossed $20 million from more than 30 markets on Thursday, including $2 million in the U.K. from sneak screenings, $1.7 million in Russia and $1.4 million in Mexico. It opened in 64 international territories on Friday.

The $160 million blockbuster is the last film that WB is co-financing with Legendary — its producing partner of eight years. “Godzilla” is their first big-budget collaboration following last summer’s mixed bag “Pacific Rim.”

Legendary, which financed 75% of “Godzilla,” looks to be turning a new leaf following its recent trouble with the monster genre at the U.S. box office. “Pacific Rim’s” meager takings (it made $102 million domestic on a $190 million production budget) followed Bryan Singer’s “Jack the Giant Slayer” disappointment, another WB release.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby Cookie » Sun May 18, 2014 8:57 am

variety also has an update on that 450m number.. Till made a mistake and its actually 380m that the profit starts coming in.

Not sure how I would want the sequel to go yet. I think we should have another new monster though.. But at least add a famous Toho kaiju like Anguirus.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby davezilla » Sun May 18, 2014 11:57 am

I agree, it's fine to remake another Toho kaiju but another new creature please!!! Pretty please!
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby JimPV » Sun May 18, 2014 3:13 pm

I posted this in the "Next Era and Beyond" forum, but seems apropos for this thread as well:

Do any of you guys really think they'd feature the new L.P. Godzilla against a revamped King Kong? Really?

I'm seriously doubting any of the Toho stable of kaiju will be used, at least not without major revamping. But Kong? Not in a zillion years.
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Re: New series? and how others may tie into it?

Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun May 18, 2014 3:33 pm

I would like some older Toho kaiju to return, but I would LOVE it if we get at least 1 new kaiju a movie.
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