GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Re: GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (5-31-19 -NO SPOILERS PLE

Postby Gentleman » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:15 am

tbeasley wrote:
Gentleman wrote:Do we have any idea of the size of these guys?

Mothra - 52 feet (height)/803 feet (wingspan)
Rodan - 154 feet (height)/871 feet (wingspan)
Godzilla - 355 feet
Ghidorah - 521 feet (height)/wingspan unknown

That makes Legendary Ghidorah the second tallest monster to appear in the series, after Godzilla Earth (984 feet).

All that said - they all look phenomenal!


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Postby Kailem » Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:23 pm

To echo what pretty much everyone has been saying, I love those designs! Rodan looks downright incredible. I'm really not sure how they could have done any better than that. The head looks amazing, and like humdingers said, I love how the patterns on his wings look like dried lava, along with his trademark brownish colour. Along with the trailer showing that the edges of his wings look almost like molten rock I love how they've incorporated his "volcanic" nature into his design. Just perfect.

Ghidorah looks excellent too. If he maybe looks a little "thin" it's no doubt just a result of them going with a lightly more realistic interpretation of his body compared to the originals, which is fine. His horns look awesome, and I love his wings. Almost bat or dragon-like. I can totally see a scene in the film where he opens them and stands there in a similar pose to that figure, just looking huge and majestic.

Mothra's obviously the most different, but I really like it. To be honest I've never been a huge Mothra fan anyway, so I like that they went with a more insect-like approach to her rather than just the traditional fuzzy butterfly. :P And I really like the slightly redesigned Godzilla as well. He looks a bit thinner, and the more traditional spines are a nice touch.

And going back a bit to the music, that's certainly cool that they'll be including Mothra's theme as well, though a little disappointing to hear we won't be getting either Rodan or Mothra's. I wonder why they decided not to use either of those? Maybe monetary reasons? Either way, it's cool that we'll be getting any classic music at all, and that snippet of Godzilla's theme sounded great.

And on that note (no pun intended :P ), here's a bit more of it: https://twitter.com/Ohuchi_RYDEEN/statu ... 3714080769
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Postby lhb412 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:15 pm

In the audio for the event I hear both the Godzilla Terror Theme introduced in the 60s, as well as the march from the original Godzilla '54 (which was of course later retooled to be Godzilla's personal theme). Are they separate? Or, as Akira Ifkube did in the 90s have they combined the two, maybe starting out with the Terror theme and then going into the march?
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Postby Jinzo Ningen » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:14 pm

The re-designs all rock!

Mothra actually looks like a contender here. I appreciate the Battra influences and I am sure they'll still keep her as a gentle demi-goddess, but now she has the physicality to go into battle without looking like she'll be ripped to shreds within seconds.

After seeing that leaked cellphone pic of an early Ghidorah design I was really worried, but these pictures all restore my faith completely.

My only gripe is with Godzilla. His coloring is just so boring and monochromatic. They should've made his spines lighter than his body, instead of everything all one color, although it's hard to accurately judge from fan pics taken of toys. He may in fact look far 'better' on screen & in motion. Even if not, it's a minor complaint. Hey, at least they beefed up his dorsal spines (nice '54-ish look!) and those stumpy feet got a wee bit bigger. Hope his breath is more like a rocket exhaust and less like liquidy vomit. We'll see. Cannot wait! More amped about this than ANY of the upcoming Marvel stuff, surprisingly. (Or maybe not surprisingly.)
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Postby TerranigmaFreak » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:18 pm

Jinzo Ningen wrote:Hope his breath is more like a rocket exhaust and less like liquidy vomit. We'll see. Cannot wait! More amped about this than ANY of the upcoming Marvel stuff, surprisingly. (Or maybe not surprisingly.)


Just watch the trailer. He uses his breath in it.
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Postby Jorzilla » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:58 pm

Godzilla's re-tooling is probably my biggest net-positive. Rodan and Ghidorah are classic, which will hopefully translate to increased interest in older films. Mothra's design is the weakest simply because it is the most radical. I'll want to see how she's handled on screen before casting too much judgement.

Now if they just deleted Godzilla's gills...
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Postby lhb412 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:34 pm

The trailer drops next Sunday, December 9th.

Will I be able to resist watching it? Will I hold fast to my new resolution of avoiding watching too much footage of a film I know I want to see? Find out, on the next Dragon Ball Z!
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Postby lhb412 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 am

Oh, I just realized they rounded the tip of Godzilla's tail. Just one of the few little cosmetic changes that make Godzilla look a bit more like his traditional Toho self.
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Postby Kailem » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:30 am

Watching (most of) the video of Michael Dougherty's Toyko Comic-Con appearance, I like that he just came out and said 'yeah we made the feet a little bigger because he just needed bigger feet.' :lol:
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Postby Kailem » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:10 pm

A very brief new glimpse of Rodan from the Monarch Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/MonarchSciences/sta ... 3631191040

Even blurry, that's still a cool shot. And that silhouette is certainly looking pretty darn classic.
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Postby tbeasley » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:53 pm

TerranigmaFreak wrote:Wait, they made Godzilla bigger? Why? He's pretty damn big as it is. No need to get into a Godzilla measuring contest with Toho.

No, Legendary is still 108 meters (355 feet).

Shin (Form 4) was 118 meters (387 feet).

Godzilla Earth (from the anime) is 300 meters (984 feet).
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Postby TerranigmaFreak » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:32 pm

tbeasley wrote:
TerranigmaFreak wrote:Wait, they made Godzilla bigger? Why? He's pretty damn big as it is. No need to get into a Godzilla measuring contest with Toho.

No, Legendary is still 108 meters (355 feet).

Shin (Form 4) was 118 meters (387 feet).

Godzilla Earth (from the anime) is 300 meters (984 feet).


Oops, I miscalculated my meters to feet conversion. You're right. My bad.
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Postby gyaos » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:55 pm

Kailem wrote:A very brief new glimpse of Rodan from the Monarch Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/MonarchSciences/sta ... 3631191040

Even blurry, that's still a cool shot. And that silhouette is certainly looking pretty darn classic.


Looks great but does not sound anything like Rodan.
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Postby Kailem » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:08 pm

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Postby gyaos » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:48 pm

So outside of Godzilla, all the roars are wrong.
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Postby Kailem » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:19 pm

I dunno, it's brief but that sounds pretty Mothra-like to me. Rodan's doesn't sound much like his signature roar, but the clip is so short it could just be "random Rodan sound", like the growls they gave Godzilla in the Heisei era. Given how largely accurate the designs are to their classic counterparts I doubt they'd go the complete opposite direction with the roars.

A better look at the new poster/display seen at the Brazil Comic-Con:

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And as has been posted out elsewhere; I see what they did there:

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Apparently the new trailer won't actually be going online until Monday morning, though I'm sure there'll probably be bootleg versions out there before then once it's been shown at that con. If that's the case I'll certainly try to hold off until they release a nice crispy clean official one, especially since the wait won't be that much longer at all.
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Postby Kailem » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:10 pm

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Postby gyaos » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:58 am

So the new trailer has been shown but no real reaction yet.

The awful Millie Bobby Brown scene looks like it’s in the trailer. Why? That scene has been roundly mocked and they insist on showing it and making the movie look like a pile of crap.
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Postby Gwangi » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:47 am

Kailem wrote:Apparently the new trailer won't actually be going online until Monday morning, though I'm sure there'll probably be bootleg versions out there before then once it's been shown at that con. If that's the case I'll certainly try to hold off until they release a nice crispy clean official one, especially since the wait won't be that much longer at all.


Yeah, I don't think that was a smart move on Legendary's part. I don't mind the waiting, but we ALL now have to be on guard for any online leaks, which for sure, will be poor in quality.
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Postby Kailem » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:41 pm

Yeah it seems like an odd decision. Even the San Diego Comic-Con trailer went online the moment it was shown there, and that's kind of a bigger deal than.....well, any other pop culture-related convention there is.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:29 pm

gyaos wrote:So the new trailer has been shown but no real reaction yet.

The awful Millie Bobby Brown scene looks like it’s in the trailer. Why? That scene has been roundly mocked and they insist on showing it and making the movie look like a pile of crap.


But then again, no one has complained about that scene with Millie Bobby Brown on the radio because that scene is fine and totally inoffensive.


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Kailem wrote:I dunno, it's brief but that sounds pretty Mothra-like to me. Rodan's doesn't sound much like his signature roar, but the clip is so short it could just be "random Rodan sound", like the growls they gave Godzilla in the Heisei era. Given how largely accurate the designs are to their classic counterparts I doubt they'd go the complete opposite direction with the roars.


Godzilla got a new roar in 2014 so it's only right that Legendary should make new roars for the other monsters. Updating monster voices over time has long been one of Toho's hallmarks and I'm glad that Legendary has kept up that tradition instead of just recycling old sound bytes. From what little we hear in those clips, Mothra and Rodan certainly sound like themselves, especially Mothra's high-pitched shriek. I hope we get to hear what Ghidorah sounds like in the new trailer.

The one thing that really gives me pause about what we've seen so far is in Mothra's new design. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what I'm seeing in the photos of the Mothra toy but it looks to me like her backmost pair of legs are attached to her body at the abdomen instead of at the thorax. If that's the case then it'll give her a body shape closer to a feline or a deer than an insect.
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Postby lhb412 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:35 am

Oooh, I quite like this new poster.

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Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:01 am

Gwangi wrote:Yeah, I don't think that was a smart move on Legendary's part. I don't mind the waiting, but we ALL now have to be on guard for any online leaks, which for sure, will be poor in quality.

I think it's a smart move, actually. Odds of it being leaked from SDCC: HUGE. Odds if it being leaked from...NOT SDCC: pretty small (as the evidence now shows - I haven't seen or even heard of any leaks and it's been HOURS).
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Postby Gargantuan Gargantua » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:09 am

taking with a grain of salt...

Spoiler Below:
someone said a giant scorpion is shown. even bigger grain of salt... someone said a giant mammoth breaks out of ice in Siberia...


Since I haven't looked at any trailers yet, maybe someone can confirm that for me. I don't care about spoilers like that, I care about spoiling the look of the movie and having these trailers give me the wrong tone going into the movie.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:29 am

Gargantuan Gargantua wrote:taking with a grain of salt...

Spoiler Below:
someone said a giant scorpion is shown. even bigger grain of salt... someone said a giant mammoth breaks out of ice in Siberia...


Since I haven't looked at any trailers yet, maybe someone can confirm that for me. I don't care about spoilers like that, I care about spoiling the look of the movie and having these trailers give me the wrong tone going into the movie.


I guess we'll find out today whether those shots are in the new trailer. If you don't care about potential plot spoilers, check out the purported plot synopsis over in the spoiler thread. That plot synopsis turned up online more than a week before the first trailer debuted and what was shown in that first trailer seems to line up with it, and so do those shots that you described.
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