Kong: Skull Island (2017)

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:57 pm

Henry88 wrote:‘Kong: Skull Island’ Concept Art Features an Ape Who Was Almost More of a Literal King
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Kong: Skull Island is king of the UK box office
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Man, I dig this artwork. As awesome as the image of Kong having a gigantic throne where the Iwi workshop him is (reminiscent of Mothra) I understand why it wasn't used: making Kong more of a loner who shoulders the burden of keeping things in check makes him more sympathetic.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:03 am

If they intend to do a DAM style film that ties everything together then they need to introduce more monster STARS. Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, Kong vs. King Ghidorah sounds... kinda lame, honestly. If whomever turns out to be the force behind KG, (if that is they route they wish to pursue), wants to stack the deck in their favor then they need to crank out a bunch of other monsters to overwhelm & wear down 'our heroes' in the final climatic battle. These need to be established ahead of time, in G'19, and even GvK - IF that's not the DAM film in Legendary's cannon. That's where you resurrect WB critters like the Rhedosaurus, big ants from Them! and Black Scorpion. Maybe even license some more sideline B characters like Ebirah & Kamakarus, Spiga, etc. These kaiju could be the cannon-fodder fighters, like Kamen Riders & Super Sentai take on before the main villain.

Just throwing it out there. Ya know, food for thought.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:49 am

^ Since he popped up in WB's The Lego Batman Movie I guess they can throw Harryhausen's Kraken in there.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:28 pm

This movie is even better the second time! I just got back and the theater was even more filled than it was last Friday, closer to half-full and there were a lot of kids there. When the helicopters are dropping bombs to Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" and Kong throws a tree through one of them, just as the scene cut silent for dramatic effect, one boy in the middle of the theater said audibly, "That's King Kong."
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby mr.negativity » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:35 am

/film Saturday, March 18th, 2017:
The Alternate Opening for ‘Kong: Skull Island’ Would Have Ruffled Some Feathers

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“The alternate opening that I pitched to them, the studio said: ‘No. You’re crazy. You can’t do that!’ So it’s World War II. A full squad comes to this beach. They’re killing each other – and then suddenly, this giant monkey (that looks a lot like the monkey from the last ‘King Kong’ movie) comes out of the jungle. And they just kill it. It’s dead. And you’re sitting there going, ‘Wait, did they just kill King Kong? Did they kill the hero of this film?’ And then you’d hear a roar and see a much bigger creature – the real King Kong. That was the crazy version of me wanting to send a message that this isn’t like other King Kong movies that you’ve seen. The studio were like: ‘You can’t do that.’”
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:42 pm

Against the second week box office behemoth of Beauty and the Beast Kong fares... rather well, actually: box office mojo predicts Kong'll make $28 million this weekend, a bit less than half of what it made in its first weekend, which is a pretty respectable drop even if a huge movie wasn't opening against it.

After this weekend Kong will have made about $110 million in the US and $259 worldwide. It's still yet to open in, I think, China and Japan?
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:26 pm

That estimated -52.7% second-weekend drop is a much better hold than Godzilla's -66.8% as well as Pacific Rim's -57.1%. Among recent March openers, it's better than Batman v Superman (-69.1%), The Hunger Games (-61.6%), and Logan (-56.9% last week). It's also a better hold than Transformers: Age of Extinction (-63%), The Dark Knight Rises (-61.4%), Star Trek Beyond (-58.2%), Captain America: Civil War (-59.5%), as well as every Marvel Phase Two entry. We'll have to see how the actual weekend gross ends up compared to the current $28,850,000 estimate but this is good news for Kong: Skull Island, especially against the estimated $170m opening of Beauty and the Beast.

It's ironic that this new take on King Kong avoided retelling the beauty and the beast story only to end up sharing marquee space with that title.


lhb412 wrote:It's still yet to open in, I think, China and Japan?


Yep, both of which are next weekend (China on Friday and Japan on Saturday).
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:38 pm

I thought this month would be a bad one for movies crowding each other out, sucking up all the oxygen from each other and studios losing lots of money, but I suppose I was wrong. Get Out, Logan, Kong, and Beauty and the Beast have all been successful and it's been a huge month for movies. All of them were exciting and target different audiences.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Henry88 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:40 pm

Cervantes smiled Spain's chivalry away;
A single laugh demolished the right arm
Of his own country; — seldom since that day
Has Spain had heroes.

where did all the happy endings go?, where could all the good times be.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:08 am

Benjamin Haines wrote:This movie is even better the second time! I just got back and the theater was even more filled than it was last Friday, closer to half-full and there were a lot of kids there. When the helicopters are dropping bombs to Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" and Kong throws a tree through one of them, just as the scene cut silent for dramatic effect, one boy in the middle of the theater said audibly, "That's King Kong."


Agree 100% Went again this past weekend and my theater was also noticeably fuller than last weekend. Positive WOM is making a difference. I enjoyed the movie much more this time around even though I'd just seen it the week before. I think this will be one of those "comfort food" movies once it hits Blu & DVD, much like the first Avengers & GotG.

What really stunned me was the number of much older movie-goers in attendance at both screenings I attended. I'm talking folks with white hair - and an almost even number of both men & women. That was a pleasant surprise indeed. I guess good old King Kong still has a certain level of charm and/or strong positive memories for the older generation. And a lot of positive comments as they exited past me. Cool. :D
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby canofhumdingers » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:21 pm

Or maybe older people just like good movies too?
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:25 pm

The weekend actuals are in. Kong: Skull Island made about $1m less than estimated on Sunday for a $27,832,142 second weekend and a still-solid drop of -54.4% from opening weekend.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Mexigojira » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:04 pm

I had to say it was really fun movie. The monsters designs were good, especially Kong, who even has a bit of Toho's Kong (from King Kong vs Godzilla and a bit of a Gargantua)

Basically it was the cast of Platoon lead by Nick Fury to fight Kong and Loki, Captain Marvel and Wreck-It Ralph trying to save Kong.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:22 am

The hull of the ship used to make the temple in Kong: Skull Island is 'The Wanderer,' which was the name of the ship (instead of 'The Venture') in the original novelization. I suppose that the MonsterVerse versions of Denham and crew didn't make it out of there back in '33!
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby O.Supreme » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:43 am

Mexigojira wrote:Basically it was Nick Fury... to fight Kong and Loki, Captain Marvel and Wreck-It Ralph Rhomann Dey trying to save Kong.
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fix'd to keep it in Universe, and to be fair, my son and I made the same comparison
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Mexigojira » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:46 pm

O.Supreme wrote:
Mexigojira wrote:Basically it was Nick Fury... to fight Kong and Loki, Captain Marvel and Wreck-It Ralph Rhomann Dey trying to save Kong.
:wink:
fix'd to keep it in Universe, and to be fair, my son and I made the same comparison


Thanks, tried to remember his name instead of writing "that guy from the Nova Corps".
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby mrbluehair » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:01 pm

Loved it, my two boys, 10 and 7 loved it (They know how CGI works and how nobody actually gets harmed so the violence was not an issue for them) my 7 year old actually giggled at
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how Kong killed the big Skull Crawler


Was there deep dives into the characters? Not to a great extent for most, but enough to know what they were about. Action was great and most of the visuals were gorgeous. They made sure to state
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this is an adolescent Kong and not full size
and all the right information to build the universe while allowing it to stand on it's own.

So this is what I never understand....Godzilla had too much people and information and not enough monster action, I've seen people complain how there is not enough background on the people in this one which replaces back stories with monster action....I am not a film critic...though web connectivity has made everyone believe they are...I went into this wanting to have fun, and I did. It had everything I wanted, maybe a bit too much foul language for my tastes, but in the end it was a great monster movie and my kids and I are stoked that we have two more Godzilla movies and another Pacific Rim to look forward to.

My only real side note....Kong emoted, a lot! I would anticipate that in the next two movies there will be much more Godzilla than 2014 and we will see more emotional range out of our favorite lizard which I think is important.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby Reaper G » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:43 am

O.Supreme wrote:
Mexigojira wrote:Basically it was Nick Fury... to fight Kong and Loki, Captain Marvel and Wreck-It Ralph Rhomann Dey trying to save Kong.
:wink:
fix'd to keep it in Universe, and to be fair, my son and I made the same comparison


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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby tbeasley » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:49 pm

Godzilla 2014 and Kong: Skull Island couldn't be more different but I think both successfully accomplish what they set out to do. G2014 is 'less is more' (if a giant monster movie can be that) while establishing in peoples' minds what Godzilla is in the Japanese films - a big, mean radioactive dinosaur, something the '98 film didn't do (or want to do). On the flipside Skull Island is right up front with its 'more is more' attitude. It shows you can tell a Kong story removed from the traditional Beauty and the Beast/Empire State Building tale retold so well in Jackson's film (which is still somewhat fresh is peoples' minds). It has more in common with something outlandish and strange like King Kong Escapes. I don't think King of the Monsters and vs. Kong will be as stylized as Skull Island, but it definitely sets the stage for more crowd-pleasing monster elements in the MonsterVerse.
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby The Shadow » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:16 pm

Was finally able to see Kong: Skull Island today -- great movie, great monster fights, highly anticipating the next Monsterverse movie and finding out just what shenanigans Monarch has been up to with Kong (and the other creatures from Skull Island).

While watching the movie, I think I spotted an instance that suggests Warner Brothers may be looking to incorporate some of their giant monsters (outside of Kong) into the Monsterverse movies. Spoiler tags just in case, regarding some sounds in one scene towards end of the movie.I don't believe anyone has mentioned it in the thread yet, at least some searches didn't turn anything up:

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On the escape back to the boat, Marlow is reiterating how dangerous the wild life on the island is. In particular Marlow notes that the chirping that they hear in the trees isn't birds, but "big ants." Obviously, this immediately recalls one to think of THEM! and the distinctive chirping sound given the ants in that movie.

So is this instance just a homage to THEM! or could this be a hint of WB bringing in bringing in their movie monsters to expand the Monsterverse beyond what's already known?
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:33 pm

^
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I think the big ants may have been ad-libbed by Reilly, but I'd certainly love to see the creatures from THEM! (one of my fav movies) return. If they want to get mystical I suppose we could see Harryhausen's Kraken, since WB had no problem putting him into The Lego Batman Movie
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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

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Re: Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Postby The Shadow » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:14 pm

lhb412 wrote:^
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I think the big ants may have been ad-libbed by Reilly, but I'd certainly love to see the creatures from THEM! (one of my fav movies) return. If they want to get mystical I suppose we could see Harryhausen's Kraken, since WB had no problem putting him into The Lego Batman Movie


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If Reilly ad-libbed that line, it's an inspired piece of ad-lib (and would appear that Reilly himself is a fan of giant monster movies). Large ants that sound like birds seems a pretty clear reference to THEM! to me; very much hoping we get to see more of WB's giant monsters in future movies



In regards to Kong in this movie, I glad to see that:

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Kong is portrayed as an intelligent creature, it made that final fight with the big skullcrawler what with turning handy items into impromptu weapons. When Kong first grabbed the tree I was kind of hoping he would ram it down the skullcrawler's gullet
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