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Postby Henry88 » Fri May 18, 2018 3:41 pm

THUNDERCATS Roar Into New CARTOON NETWORK Show
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Fri May 18, 2018 8:14 pm

... you know, and a few people have mentioned this online in various places, I think He-Man would benefit more from being turned into a cute comedy cartoon. Like, I look at the cute comedy Thundercats and I wonder what the comedic hook for all the Thundercats will be? With He-Man I can easily think of comedic spins on all the characters - and many (most?) are already comical anyway. Skeletor being hilarious is like the defining thing about the franchise.
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby XvGojira » Sat May 19, 2018 2:06 am

lhb412 wrote:... you know, and a few people have mentioned this online in various places, I think He-Man would benefit more from being turned into a cute comedy cartoon. Like, I look at the cute comedy Thundercats and I wonder what the comedic hook for all the Thundercats will be? With He-Man I can easily think of comedic spins on all the characters - and many (most?) are already comical anyway. Skeletor being hilarious is like the defining thing about the franchise.


Yeah, suuuuper disappointed that this was the direction they took Thundercats. But it's what is selling. And this reeks of an attempt to be a new Teen Titans Go, even the naming convention reeks of imitation.

But if a property were to get this treatment, He-Man would be a better fit.

Also the creator/director/procducer or whatever title that guy in that video has, he looks like the biggest douche in the world with his bunless manbun on the top of his head. I mean, what does his hair look like when it's down, a mowhack before it's hawked?
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby O.Supreme » Sat May 19, 2018 10:53 am

of for "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" sake! The 2011 show gets cancelled, and THIS is what we get??? We truly are in the end times. All this chibi bullshit can just rot in hell.
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Sat May 19, 2018 11:39 am

You know what could do well in this style? Godzilla!

You could reboot the Godzilla Island action figure shorts as a kids cartoon. Get Sophie Campbell to design the characters... but come to think of it, she prefers Gamera... you know what? Strike that - Gamera kids cartoon instead!
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Sat May 19, 2018 7:46 pm

^ Listen, I don't think the new Thundercats looks terribly good but that guy is so full of $%#@ I'm pretty sure he can only see brown.

Let's just relax and let Godzilla teach us about math...

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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby Dr Kain » Sun May 20, 2018 7:09 pm

What is up with the crackhead baby designs in animation these days?
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Sun May 20, 2018 7:13 pm

^That's crazy offensive a thing to say. Could you rephrase that in a way that doesn't insult helpless human beings?
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby O.Supreme » Mon May 21, 2018 11:46 am

On a rare occasion, I agree 100% with Dr. Kain. I apologize that I am a traditionalist. I know that hand drawn cell animation doesn't exist anymore but...from what choices we have left, I still prefer the look of digital cells than CG, or Flash, or any other cut rate animation you can think of. Pretty much anything that appears on CN post 2013 is garbage, even the *beloved* Adventure Time. I cant stand any of it. It all seems cheap, full of quick jokes, and assumes that children have zero attention span. I have taught my children differently. To appreciate deep narrative, and a long journey both in written word, and through the mediums of TV and movies.

To Illustrate- We understand that sometimes you have to use a microwave to heat your food for the sake of time, but we know full well that all food tastes better when coming form a conventional oven.

Shows like Motu 2002/03 and Thundercats 2011 were amazing, and the treatment they received from the network was criminal. There is a vicious/toxic cycle and I don't know exactly who's to blame. Is Teen Titans GO! CN most popular show because kids love it so much, or is it because it's on so often and kids don't know any better? Also we had good comedies in the past. Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, all Brilliant. Freakazoid and The Tick showed that comedy and the superhero/action genre were compatible. Heck even MIB the Series, and Big Guy and Rusty were jewels compared to what is on CN today.
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Mon May 21, 2018 12:39 pm

O.Supreme wrote: Pretty much anything that appears on CN post 2013 is garbage, even the *beloved* Adventure Time. I cant stand any of it. It all seems cheap, full of quick jokes, and assumes that children have zero attention span.


That's just blatantly untrue: shows like Adventure Time and Steven Universe have such long running continuity that a complaint with merit would be that they become completely impenetrable for new fans as they go on. This has actually been a major problem for Adventure Time in its later years. I don't think there's ever been a point in time when kids media demanded more attention from the kids in question. Half the kids shows airing now have some long running myth arc that I'm only vaguely aware of because I've only caught a couple of episodes. My sister tells me a bit about Star vs. The Forces of Evil and I'm gobsmacked "all of that's happening in this show?!"

... and we're just talking about American kids shows! Kids today love anime, they love YA novel series - or younger-than-YA stuff, think 'Lemony Snickett.' They're half a dozen entries deep into some video game series with impeccable world building. That's not even mentioning how they keep up with stuff the rest of pop culture keeps up with: the ins and out of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Star Wars Universe and Stranger Things and blah blah blah blah

And if there are some shows that are purely random humor and have no continuity? So what? Some of my fondest memories as a kid were watching Three Stooges shorts with my mom. I watched all the '60s Hanna Barbara stuff on Cartoon Network as a kid. Why can't kids today have their own equivalents to Yogi Bear/ Huckleberry Hound/Quickdraw McGraw and the like?
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby O.Supreme » Mon May 21, 2018 4:03 pm

I have a variety of reasons for not liking the shows you mentioned, but aesthetically they just horrible to me. There appears to be no effort. Hands and Feet are replaced by digitless blobs, features contorted...etc...I understand its just my opinion, but still none of it appeals to me. Also the stories to me have no merit, and have no redeeming qualities I aspire to, or can even enjoy on an entertainment level. Sure you can reference much of what Hanna-Barbara did with limited animation in the 60's/70's, but at least there was a renaissance of sorts, with amazing action cartoons in the 80's and 90's. Additionally, while I do appreciate older animation (I own pretty much all Looney Tunes golden collection on DVD, and I enjoy watching Disney tunes from the 30's/40's). the stuff you mentioned (Hanna-Barbara) are not things I've watched since I was a kid since they do not interest me. Also I'm not going to go into Anime, that's a who other realm. It's constant highs and lows are ever changing. One thing I can say, for all the lousy anime I see, at least I know somewhere , out there, there will be something decent I can enjoy. With regard to the state of animation in the United States, I guess I should just count myself fortunate I currently have Voltron on Netflix. I guess one good show is better than none at all.
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Mon May 21, 2018 7:49 pm

^ I don't begrudge your opinion. Everyone's entitled to their own, it's just that my personal philosophy is to try to understand a little bit about and appreciate diverse and unfamiliar and new styles of things and also learn about their history. When folks don't or can't do the same I bristle up at it. When you learn the history of something you see the circular nature, 'nothing new under the sun' and all that, and when you mention the blob feet and hands showing no effort on the part of the artist I have that mental moment where I flashback to early 20th century newspaper comics like Polly and Her Pals and Gasoline Alley and recognize the blobby digits from the 'old masters,' as it were.

Here's a little example from my life: despite growing up in an era when hip hop was becoming the dominant form of pop music I never listened to any growing up simply because it was seen as 'scary black music' and my parents were... well, of their time (they have gotten much better in this regard). I was raised on classic rock and roll. Last year or two I've been forcing myself to listen to unfamiliar music because I felt the gap in my cultural knowledge and it disturbed me a bit

I don't want to be a fuddy duddy. I want to appreciate new things as I get older and not be the old man clinging to the past. When I read about David Bowie and Roger Daltrey being huge Kendrick Lamar fans, that kind of thing makes me very happy.

I'm not saying you should force yourself to like something you don't like, but I do hope that in some way you do challenge yourself by challenging your own tastes and assumptions. I hope everyone does.

... and, in that spirit: there was one thing in that Thundercats Roar promo that really struck me as super-cool and that was that rocking theme tune. I searched a bit for it and once I found it I've listened to it a bunch times. They're apparently a Japanese noise rock band and this song is awesome!

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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:35 am

^ While that was a fan made opening made form clips form the 2011 show, set to the music/intro of the original 1985 show, it still looks amazing, and makes me sad thart CN is so close minded and pandering. Still I have this amazing show on Blu Ray, and am glad I'll always have it. As for the show this thread is based on. While I wish no harm to anyone involved in the show, I can only hope some disaster befalls the place where this show is being made (that involves no loss of human life or injury), and it never sees the light of day.
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Postby klen7 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:44 pm

^Would you settle for it failing spectacularly and serving as a warning to anyone else with similar future intent?
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby lhb412 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:07 pm

O.Supreme wrote: As for the show this thread is based on. While I wish no harm to anyone involved in the show, I can only hope some disaster befalls the place where this show is being made (that involves no loss of human life or injury), and it never sees the light of day.


I'm sure you mean no harm, but this comment is in extraordinarily bad taste because an overzealous 'fan' ranting about the supposed "CalArts style" in modern animation made a threat online that caused authorities to cancel classes at the CalArts campus last week.
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Re: THUNDERCATS Roar

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:48 pm

klen7 wrote:^Would you settle for it failing spectacularly and serving as a warning to anyone else with similar future intent?


I'd love that, but if its shown 20 times a day, and kids don't know any better, it will get ratings initially, and then CN will deduce automatically that's its liked, even if its merely the fact that TV's in many homes are just "on" in the background , even if nobody is paying attention (it's not this way in my home, but I see it among many of my kids friends).
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