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Postby Dr Kain » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:30 am

I've actually spent the last week and a half watching the show. I just finished Season 6 and I absolutely love these episodes. Homer the Heretic, Home the Great, Tell Tale Head, and of course all of the Sideshow Bob and Treehouse episodes are amazing. It has been a long time since I have seen these episodes (most of them I saw when I first bought the DVDs and never had a chance to rewatch them since) so I am enjoying every moment of them. Regardless, I think Season 4 is my favorite season out of them all because there is not one bad episode in that season.

I also just picked up at B&N for $24 this Seasons 1-20 book that is pretty awesome, as it has a synopsis for every episode of those seasons. Sadly though, outside of a few episodes (24 Minutes, That 90's Show, The Debarted), I do not remember most of the episodes from Seasons 11 on when I read their descriptions. It's kind of sad, but it might also be because I don't think I have really rewatched anything from 2005 on.

Sadly, this past season was pretty awful, and even more so now that I have gone through the first 6 seasons. However, it is making me also think if Seaosns 11 on are even that great since I barely remember anything from them, but I'll find that out when I get there.

I'd say, my top 10 favorite episodes of all time are (in no order):

24 Minutes
Trilogy of Error
22 Short Films About Springfield
Homer the Heretic
Who Shot Mr Burns
Cape Feare
Treehouse of Horror V
Homer the Great
Homer's Enemy
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Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:29 am

I have the DVDs up to Season 13 I think and I definitely enjoy most of them...

Seasons 11, 12, and 13 are better than Season 1...
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Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:58 am

The newer episodes while not that funny, I still feel is a higher quality of humor than Family Guy or any other show Seth green has made.

I have the DVD sets for seasons 1-13 & 20, and season 14 was my first BRD season (not going back to get previous BRD, just starting where I am now). Season 15 comes out on DVD/BRD 12/4/12

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Simpso ... n-15/17122

The only problem with them coming out once per year, is that they will never get caught up. There was a period of 2 years where they came out twice a year, whioch was nice. But since they went back into produciton on Futureama, its been back to once a year. But I guess you take the good with the bad. Getting new Futurama episodes is great!
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Postby Dr Kain » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:16 am

Yeah, they were doing 2 sets a year until the movie hit, then the movie screwed everything up on the video releases.

Dec? Guess I'll just download Season 15+ to see if I am want to buy them.
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Postby Dr Kain » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:22 pm

Man, so either my Simpsons mood is starting to dry out, or Season 9 is failing to entertain me as much. I mean, I was laughing my ass off all day yeterday watching Season 8, but today, outside of a few episodes, I am finding myself bored with Season 9.
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:35 pm

Half way through Season 9 is where the show lost me for good.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:00 pm

It's been so long I can't remember when the show lost me.
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Postby Dr Kain » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:37 am

MouthForWar wrote:Half way through Season 9 is where the show lost me for good.


Meh, I have watched every episode as it airs since it was first moved to Sundays during the sixth season.

However, I am so glad I only have one disc left to Seaosn 9 now, which I will finish tomorrow and then probably start 10. I really hope 10 is better, because Season 9, while it does have some great episodes, and some good moments, like I said above, it was pretty boring.

Of course, that is the whole reason for doing this marathon, to see every season so I can see all of the high and low points of the series. Also to determine what BDs and DVDs I should keep or should buy (like I will buy Season 18 just for the "24 Minutes" episode).
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:25 am

MouthForWar wrote:Half way through Season 9 is where the show lost me for good.
Max Power.

Season 10, Episode 13.

Hilarious.

The Japan Episode.

Season 10, Episode something...


Hilarious.
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Postby Dr Kain » Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:31 am

Actually, yeah, Season 9 and 10 turned out to have some great episodes on them. Problem was, for every Homer vs New York, Das Bus, Homer to the Max, and Mayored to the Mob, you had The Joy of Sect, Simpson Tide, The Last Temptation of Krusty, Bart Carny, Sunday Cruddy Sunday, and Maximum Homerdrive to mess them up. Nevertheless, the majority of those seasons turned out ot be great, even if they weren't as good as Season 8.

On the other hand, I am 17 episodes into Season 11 and there has only been one great episode with 3 okay episodes. The rest have been down right terrible, especially the Tomacco, biker gang, and Bart's future episodes. Not to mention the Octuplets is really jumping the shark. The concept is just awful. The worst offender though has to be the episode where Moe gets a face job. The episode ends in mid-sentence. Hopefully it was just the DVD was screwed up and not the actual episode itself, because if it was, that is some lazy ass writing on ending an episode.

Anyway, tomorrow I finish 11. At least Seaosn 12 has Trilogy of Error to look forward to, even if the rest of the season is crap, that is one of the best episodes in the entire series.
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Postby Dr Kain » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:35 pm

Started Season 12 with my g/f yesterday, and all I can say is, at least it is better than Season 11 already. Well, except for Homer being raped by a Panda. WTF???!!!

On the other hand, I watched the first 7 episodes to Season 15 this morning (12-14 are being watched with my g/f), and I was bored out of my mind. I laughed twice during the Krusty episode, and then once during one of the episodes before that, but that was about it. What the hell is going on? When they first aired I thought they were great, at least, that is what I think I remember them being.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:38 am

The tomacco episode is a classic!
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Postby Dr Kain » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:37 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:The tomacco episode is a classic!


Yeah, a classic at being one of the worst episodes of the season. That and Saddlesore Galactica are probably the worst episodes of Season 11.

I finally found a great Season 15 episode though. It is the one where Milhouse moves away and Lisa and Bart start hanging out. Fortunately, I only have like 5 episodes left, as I just had to see Edna go out with Comicbook Guy, and it was already creepy enough when he went out with Skinner's mother.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:50 am

Dr Kain wrote:
jellydonut25 wrote:The tomacco episode is a classic!


Yeah, a classic at being one of the worst episodes of the season.
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:57 am

jellydonut25 wrote:
MouthForWar wrote:Half way through Season 9 is where the show lost me for good.
Max Power.

Season 10, Episode 13.

Hilarious.

The Japan Episode.

Season 10, Episode something...


Hilarious.


Actually, I stand corrected... looking back, its after season 10 that I stopped watching.
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Postby Dr Kain » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:58 am

jellydonut25 wrote:
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jellydonut25 wrote:The tomacco episode is a classic!


Yeah, a classic at being one of the worst episodes of the season.
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Oh, that is one of the episodes I hated when it first aired, and it was no different now.

Anyway, I finished Seaon 15 and some of the last few episodes redeemed it from being worse than Season 11. THose episodes were the Milhouse one, the one where Homer and Marge keep running away from the kids, and the one where Homer becomes Pie Man. Plus, the one where Bart goes to the prison place and the season finale were not horrible episodes (even if the season finale was rehashing a previous episode).
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Postby Dr Kain » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:22 am

I'm going to sum up each season from 11+ in a sentence or two:

11 - Down right dreadful.
12 - Would be unwatchable if not for Trilogy of Error.
13 - There are some funny moments, but they are hidden behind miles of crap.
15 - Had 3 good episodes, 2 decent ones, the rest sucked.
16 - Makes Season 11 look good.
17 - Contains by far THE worst episode by making Homer think his dad is not Abe!!!!!! This was the first episode I turned off after this was "revealed." The rest of the season is awful, but at least it has a good episode to it.
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Postby Dr Kain » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:11 am

Here are a couple posts I pasted from another message board:

First, I finished Season 13 and my god, the episode where Homer and Marge are accused of murder, making jokes of it, and then it turning out to be a reality tv show was an insult to not only the viewer, but the writer's should be ashamed of that episode. It had some decent ideas going on in it, but that ending just completely left a sour taste in my mouth. I am never rewatching Season 13 again just because of that episode. As for the season finale, I liked it better when it was called "Homer the Vigilante."

Then I watched the first disc of Season 14. Seriously, what is up with the reality tv show jokes? We have ANOTHER episode where they are doing one like 5 episodes into the season. And what a boring episode it was. The best episode on the disc was the Sideshow Bob episode, but his antics in the end also ruined that one. Sideshow Bob was my favorite Simpsons character, but Season 12, 14, and 17 have turned him into a joke.

I also finished Season 17 yesterday and once again, it was lame. While it was a better season overall than 16, the show got extremely boring towards the end that I was just happy to have it over with. I mean, they are really repeating the same plotlines over now, and doing a poor job at it. In fact, I cannot even remember the majority of the season anymore, and I watched the majority of it yesterday. The only episodes that I found to be anything redeemable was the one where the cemetery was put next to Lisa's room ("The Girl Who Slept Too Little") and the outsourcing one ("Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" or something). However, I need to make mention that this season contains what I have determined to be the worst Simpsons episode ever. Even worse than the one from Season 13. It is the one where Abe might not be Homer's dad. It is hands down the most painful and insulting episode in the entire series that I could not even watch it. The entire concept does not make any sense and I stopped watching it the moment Homer read that letter from his mom. I have sat through countless garbage episodes, episodes that were okay but ruined by their random endings, and episodes that had nothing worthwhile to them, but this takes the cake. This episode just spits over anyone and everyone watching the show and Al Jean should have been fired just for allowing this episode alone. In fact, the more I think about it, Season 11, 13, and 16 are down right dreadful, but I might just place this as the worst season of them all just for that one. Moving on though...

Finally, I have also watched the first 7 episodes of Season 18 today and it is driving me nuts. The one with Fat Tony's son was not terrible, but outside of the drunk driving joke in "Moe n Lisa" and the White Stripes chasing Bart in the jazz episode, the season has been just down right boring. The episode where Homer joins the army was over the top and ridiculous, and it was nothing new. I nearly fell asleep during this episode. I guess I should just be thankful I haven't run into an episode as insulting as the one I refuse to mention, but I cannot wait until I get to "24 Minutes," because unless something has changed since I last watched it, that is one of the best episodes of all time.

I finished the rest of Season 18 and it was by far better than the last several seasons. There are some really bad episodes to it, such as "Kill Gil" and the one with Abe and Selma was just down right disgusting. However, the Helm's Deep parody with Bart and Lisa and the UPS guys was awesome and the only redeeming factor in that episode. Even the one with Nelson and Bart was not bad, and as I said before, "24 Minutes" is one of the best Simpsons episodes ever. I have never watched the show 24, so that might also be why I found this episode to be very original and the best since "Trilogy of Error." "Homerazzi" was quite enjoyable as well as the Kent Brockman episode. Oh, and who can forget about the awesome "Marge Gamer" episode? That one is just down right hilarious since it makes fun of Warcraft. It is unfortunate that there is no way to just get the episodes I find to be the best of Seasons 11-19 onto an official Blu-Ray, because I really only want a season's worth of episodes between the 9 seasons (The Debarted, 24 Minutes, Homerazzi, Trilogy or Error, HOMR, Catch'Em If You Can, The Girl Who Slept Too Little, Hello Gutter Hello Fadder, Simple Simpson, Marge Gamer and a few others). Overall though, the season was an improvement over the last several seasons, but it still could have been a lot better. Nevertheless, I may end up buying this season when it does eventually come out on BD (in like 4 more years) just for "24 Minutes" if nothing else.

Well I finished Seasons 14, 19, and 20 over the last few days and I do not know what to say.

Season 14 was almost as bad as 11 and 13. In fact, unlike Season 12, it did not even have a single redeeming episode that makes me want to keep the BD I bought outside of the fact that it has HD versions of Tree House of Horror V and VI. Those two episodes are the only reasons I will keep it, at least until Seasons 6 and 7 see BD releases. "Moe Baby Blues" was not horrible, and part of the episode with Sideshow Bob was decent, but that is about it. The Marge episodes of this season were down right terrible (especially the real 300th episode, never understood the incorrect numbering during that season even though it was fixed for the 400th), but the worst has to go to that reality tv show episode. In fact, the problem with this season was not that it was down right dreadful, it was the fact that the episodes were just boring to watch. That might even be the problem with all of the following seasons, being boring more than anything else.

Anyway, moving on to Season 19, this one had some good stuff in it, but the majority of it was not memorable at all. As I said a few posts ago, "The Debarted" an excellent episode and a great parody of The Departed. I also could not believe how great "Eternal Moonshine in the Simpson Mind" was, as I vaguely remember it, but not that much. I've already given my opinion on "That 90's Show," but I will admit it did not leave as much of an impression on me now as it did back then. I still don't think it messed up continuity at all since there is a 6 year gap between them graduating high school and Bart being born, but I will admit that the series itself was already mocking pop culture during its run in the 90s, so this episode was pretty much useless. It was like the guys said, "Hey, you know what we forgot to mock during the golden age of the show..." and ran with it. On the other hand, what is up with the constant episodes where Bart gets a new girlfriend that is voice by a movie actress each season? We have had Amy Pohler, Reese Witherspoon, Natalie Portman, and this season gives us Zoey Duschandel (or however it is spelled). Not to mention Season 20 then has Anne Hathaway. Do we really need this plot done over and over? The only other highlights I can give this season belong to Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, as their parts were great. The rest of the season and guests appearances were meh. Overall, after Season 18 showed promise, this season went right back into the dumpster, but at least it is better than 11, 13-17.

And now of course, I have to mention Season 20. Oh what a crapshoot this season was. It tried to be better than its predecessors, and yet, it fails because almost every episode plot was already done before and better. I mean, yay, we have another Lisa enters some type of contest episode. We have another Lisa vs Mr Burns episode. Lisa buys an iPod episode, Lisa gets a psychotic friend, Lisa this, Lisa that. What was up with all of the Lisa focus in the first half of the season? There is nothing really worth mentioning for the first half, but then when the show goes all HD, "WOW, that opening was awesome, I cannot wait to see how revitalized the show gets!!" We get a decent what if episode, followed by a pretty enjoyable episode with Skinner taking the low kids away from the school, and then another okay episode. However, the highlight of the season comes with an incredible parody on The Davinci Code, and I have to say, "Gone Maggie Gone" is fantastic. Its jokes, animation, plotline, over the top puzzles that annoy Lisa, and its ending with Bart are all down right incredible to watch. This episode showed that the writers can actually come up with something as awesome like they did with "24 Minutes" in Season 18 and "Trilogy of Error" in Season 12. So how do they top it off? By making the eight following episodes lackluster. Like the one where Lovejoy finds out he was not a minister during the time he remarried Marge and Homer TWELVE SEASONS AGO!!! That was incredible lame and is almost as bad as Homer not thinking Abe was his father. The remaining episodes pretty much sucked.

Sadly, I have also watched the first 6 episodes to Season 21 and outside of the first Halloween episode segment, they have also been pretty lackluster. I am just so thankful that I am almost done with the series. Only 61 more episodes to go, and if I play my cards just right, I will be done with the show by the end of the week.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:40 am

the good thing about The Simpsons is that the show is nonlinear and you can just pick up whatever whenever and watch and enjoy...
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Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:09 am

I cant remember what season it is (20 maybe??) but there were 2 episodes where J.K. Simmons did a cameo basically as his Jameson character from the Spider-Man movies. Of course they couldn't call him that, but he was a newspapaer editor and was fully in character, he even talked about Spider-Man. That was a rare example of some really funny stuff in later episodes. I still watch faithfully, even though admitedly the show has gone down quite a bit in quality. I blame it on younger writers mostly.
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Postby Dr Kain » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:31 am

That was Season 18. He appeared looking just like Jameson in "Moe n Lisa" as a poetry editor and then he was in "Homerazzi" in charge of the tabloid Homer was taking pictures of movie stars for.

Like I said, the biggest problem is they are just rehasing plots. Let me take Season 21 for example. The second episode has Bart pours alcohol into Krabapple's coffee, so she gets drunk, gets fired, Bart hangs out with her because he feels bad about it, and then helps get her job back. That happened back in Season 5 with Skinner, only difference is, it was a lot more fun and did not use a ripoff on that stupid "The Secret" to do it.

Or there was an episode that had pretty much a UFC type thing going on. Marge challenges the owner and works out, just like how she worked out in Season 14's episode after she got mugged.

The season premier had Comicbook Guy publish his own comic, and then Hollywood wanted to turn it into a movie. It was pretty much the same thing as the Radioactive Man movie Hollywood came to town to make back in Season 7.
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Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:34 am

Dr Kain wrote:That was Season 18. He appeared looking just like Jameson in "Moe n Lisa" as a poetry editor and then he was in "Homerazzi" in charge of the tabloid Homer was taking pictures of movie stars for.


Yeah that was great stuff "I want poems, poems about Spider-Man!" and

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Postby Dr Kain » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:37 am

I have completed it!!!

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Postby metal_bryan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:45 am

From your reviews it surprises me that the show has stayed on TV this long. It has some crazy supportive fans, but you'd think they'd care about the quality if it's really that bad for >50% of the show's history.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:35 am

I'm always surprised it stays on. I have to think it's just blind fan support. When I try to watch it I rarely even chuckle. It's just sort of there.
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