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Postby lhb412 » Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:10 pm

Well, apparently this has been cancelled. Death by lack of toy deal. Action cartoons are apparently supposed to be toy commercials. Kinda makes you sick, doesn't it? From The Animation Guild Blog:

Sym-Bionic Titan, Genndy Tartakovsky's adventure show that premiered last Fall, is wrapping up its last episodes. As a Cartoon Networker told me:

"Genddy's moved on to Sony Pictures Animation. Titan got competitive ratings with other action shows, but what shut it down was it didn't have enough toys connected to it. If you don't have the, the studios don't want to renew for another season."


Sony, eh? Let's pray that he's put in charge of the Popeye reboot they're cooking up.
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Postby The Shadow » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:07 am

I'd dumbfounded that the show has been cut short. If you have a great show that tells good stories you don't need a toy line to support it, and Sym-Bionic Titan has all the necessary elements to have a great run.

With as few episodes as Cartoon Network actually ran consecutively, I'm glad Titan drew a competitive audience (not to mention bouncing the show from Friday to Wednesday).

I'm dissappointed that we're not going to get any sort of resolution to the overarching story. Not to mention sub-plots like why the Galactic Guardian Group appears to have connections to Galaluna.

The worst part of the news is that I doubt that Tartakovsky can take the show with him so it'll be stuck in Cartoon Network limbo with Megas XLR. I hope we at least get a home video release, preferably in Blu-Ray.
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Postby mr.negativity » Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:19 pm

Genndy Tartakovsky Taking Over The Hotel Transylvania?
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What do you want first, the good news or the bad news?

Okay then, because you say so…

The bad news is that Genndy Tartakovsky‘s Sym-Bionic Titan is coming to an end. The TAG Blog quote a “Cartoon Network insiderâ€
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Postby The Shadow » Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:09 pm

So Hotel Transylvania is going to be another version of Romeo and Juliet? I suppose it could do okay, though I don't see it being a big draw. I just checked Box Office Mojo and Gnomeo & Juliet has done $155 million worldwide -- which is a decent box office take. I don't know how much the G & J cost though, I doubt it's made much of a profit.

I'm not really enthused by the prospect of Genndy Tartakovsky doing HT though (unless the movie changes drastically).

All and all, when it comes ot Tartakovsky on the silver screen, I'd much rather see the long awaited Samurai Jack movie. I don't think we've heard anything on it since the news that JJ Abrams was going to produce the movie.
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Postby kidnicky » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:47 pm

Isn't that monster thing based on a comic?
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Re: Sym-Bionic Titan

Postby Shonokin » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:48 am

Just rewatching this and still bummed it got cancelled. I can imagine how great the toys would have been.
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Postby tbeasley » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:58 pm

Caught this back when it ran for the first time on Toonami and it's so good. I almost feel ashamed for not watching it originally on CN but they must have advertised it like crap because they pulled it so quickly.
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:06 pm

Watching this show made me go back to wanting to watch Daltanious and all these other classic Super Robot shows that influenced it.

Big sin that this show was cancelled.
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Postby lhb412 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:36 pm

Shonokin wrote:Just rewatching this and still bummed it got cancelled. I can imagine how great the toys would have been.


I wonder why there was no toy deal? Was is because the translucent robots seemed too much of a challenge to make in plastic?
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Postby The Shadow » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:05 pm

Tyler wrote:Caught this back when it ran for the first time on Toonami and it's so good. I almost feel ashamed for not watching it originally on CN but they must have advertised it like crap because they pulled it so quickly.


CN pulled all the standard "lets kill the show" tricks; they ran 10 episodes or so and then had a 2-3 month gap before the rest of the episodes, they bounced it round the schedule (it ran on Friday first, then Wednesday, then back to Friday) will little to no announcement of the schedule change, and barely gave the show any promotion. Even with all that, Sym-Bionic Titan was actually bringing in good ratings, the no toy deal was merely an excuse.

CN could have ran commercials for Sym-Bionic Titan if they cared too (the same goes for the new ThunderCats show), CN is always running commercials for Adventure Time even when the show isn't actively running new episodes. There's at least one AT commercial running on Boomerang every hour, maybe even at least one every half hour; and that's not counting the commercials for the Adventure Time toys. And concerning those all important toy sales -- I have never ever seen the AT toys carried in a store, not even empty spots on shelves marked for AT toys to be; you can't make much money on toys that aren't available to be bought.

The new ThunderCats series received similar treatment -- though additionally CN may have been a party to some dirty pool regarding Lego's Legend of Chima cartoon. Interesting story there, the team for the new ThunderCats show went to Lego about doing sets and even brought along a bunch of concept artwork for the Lego designers to have as a reference. Ultimately Lego decided not to do any ThunderCats sets, and the TC team thought that was the end of it, and then shock of all shocks while ThunderCats was on a 2-3 month wait between new episodes (in January) Cartoon Network is running a commercial announcing the new Lego show to replace Ninjago. It was for The Legends of Chima which features a lead character that looks an awfully lot like the new Lion-O and a world that seems to be taking a lot of cues from that concept art that the ThunderCats team left with Lego.
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Postby lhb412 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:41 pm

The Shadow wrote: CN could have ran commercials for Sym-Bionic Titan if they cared too (the same goes for the new ThunderCats show), CN is always running commercials for Adventure Time even when the show isn't actively running new episodes. There's at least one AT commercial running on Boomerang every hour, maybe even at least one every half hour; and that's not counting the commercials for the Adventure Time toys. And concerning those all important toy sales -- I have never ever seen the AT toys carried in a store, not even empty spots on shelves marked for AT toys to be; you can't make much money on toys that aren't available to be bought.


Adventure Time toys are available primarily at Toys-R-Us, Books-A-Million, Hot Topic, and F.Y.E. ... basically in any movie/music store or the like that has a space for tie-in merchandise. Naturally, comic shops, too. Of course, toys are only one bit of the merchandising pie: clothing, apparel and accessories are really where it's at, and you can get those at Wal-Mart or any number of stores.

The new ThunderCats series received similar treatment -- though additionally CN may have been a party to some dirty pool regarding Lego's Legend of Chima cartoon. Interesting story there, the team for the new ThunderCats show went to Lego about doing sets and even brought along a bunch of concept artwork for the Lego designers to have as a reference. Ultimately Lego decided not to do any ThunderCats sets, and the TC team thought that was the end of it, and then shock of all shocks while ThunderCats was on a 2-3 month wait between new episodes (in January) Cartoon Network is running a commercial announcing the new Lego show to replace Ninjago. It was for The Legends of Chima which features a lead character that looks an awfully lot like the new Lion-O and a world that seems to be taking a lot of cues from that concept art that the ThunderCats team left with Lego.


That's pretty scummy, and I do think it's endemic of this very abrasive, us v. them attitude.
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Postby XvGojira » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:47 pm

The Shadow wrote:
Tyler wrote:Caught this back when it ran for the first time on Toonami and it's so good. I almost feel ashamed for not watching it originally on CN but they must have advertised it like crap because they pulled it so quickly.


CN pulled all the standard "lets kill the show" tricks; they ran 10 episodes or so and then had a 2-3 month gap before the rest of the episodes, they bounced it round the schedule (it ran on Friday first, then Wednesday, then back to Friday) will little to no announcement of the schedule change, and barely gave the show any promotion. Even with all that, Sym-Bionic Titan was actually bringing in good ratings, the no toy deal was merely an excuse.

CN could have ran commercials for Sym-Bionic Titan if they cared too (the same goes for the new ThunderCats show), CN is always running commercials for Adventure Time even when the show isn't actively running new episodes. There's at least one AT commercial running on Boomerang every hour, maybe even at least one every half hour; and that's not counting the commercials for the Adventure Time toys. And concerning those all important toy sales -- I have never ever seen the AT toys carried in a store, not even empty spots on shelves marked for AT toys to be; you can't make much money on toys that aren't available to be bought.

The new ThunderCats series received similar treatment -- though additionally CN may have been a party to some dirty pool regarding Lego's Legend of Chima cartoon. Interesting story there, the team for the new ThunderCats show went to Lego about doing sets and even brought along a bunch of concept artwork for the Lego designers to have as a reference. Ultimately Lego decided not to do any ThunderCats sets, and the TC team thought that was the end of it, and then shock of all shocks while ThunderCats was on a 2-3 month wait between new episodes (in January) Cartoon Network is running a commercial announcing the new Lego show to replace Ninjago. It was for The Legends of Chima which features a lead character that looks an awfully lot like the new Lion-O and a world that seems to be taking a lot of cues from that concept art that the ThunderCats team left with Lego.


Oh that's dirty dirty pool. How there isn't some sort of lawsuit going on about is baffling to me.
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Postby Shonokin » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:57 am

lhb412 wrote:
Shonokin wrote:Just rewatching this and still bummed it got cancelled. I can imagine how great the toys would have been.


I wonder why there was no toy deal? Was is because the translucent robots seemed too much of a challenge to make in plastic?


It could be done, though the price point might be higher. Then again, like Genndy's other properties, how many toy-buying adults were watching those? Cuz there's some pretty pricy Samurai Jack figures out there. I would loved to have seen something of this quality
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Postby mr.negativity » Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:26 am

Twitter: Toonami News
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#SymBionicTitan for the first time has appeared on a streaming service.
Netflix currently has the first season of the series.
Go watch it now if you haven’t seen it.
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Postby Rody » Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:34 pm

^That's cool! I'll be sure to watch it again. I only discovered the show in the wake of Pacific Rim, so sadly it was long dead and no (legal) sites were showing it; but hopefully it can draw some good attention now.
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Re: Sym-Bionic Titan

Postby O.Supreme » Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:17 pm

Almost a decade later, this show was just added to Netflix. All your positive words above were never forgotten by me even though I never had a chance to watch it. Now I am, and it is definitely a great show. Only 20 episodes though? I'm almost done, but I have this sinking feeling there was a plan for more, but CN did why they do best, cancel all their best shows.
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Postby XvGojira » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:49 pm

O.Supreme wrote:Almost a decade later, this show was just added to Netflix. All your positive words above were never forgotten by me even though I never had a chance to watch it. Now I am, and it is definitely a great show. Only 20 episodes though? I'm almost done, but I have this sinking feeling there was a plan for more, but CN did why they do best, cancel all their best shows.


Because it didn't sell enough toys.
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Postby O.Supreme » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:59 pm

^*What Toys? There weren't any that I can recall. besides CN has basically a whole decade of ADD Comedy garbage shows not based on toy franchises.
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Postby XvGojira » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:10 pm

https://screenrant.com/symbionic-titan- ... n-network/

According to a purported Cartoon Network insider, 'Sym-Bionic Titan' has been canceled - not due to terrible ratings, but instead due to the fact that it doesn't have enough merchandising potential.

According to a "Cartoon Networker" who spoke to the TAG Blog:"Genddy's moved on to Sony Pictures Animation. Titan got competitive ratings with other action shows, but what shut it down was it didn't have enough toys connected to it. If you don't have the [toy sales], the studios don't want to renew for another season."


Considering around that time they used "not enough toys sold" as the reason CN canceled Young Justice, ThunderCats reboot, and He-Man reboot, not having "potential" for a toyline is close enough to the same thing.

For whatever reason CN loves ADHD garbage cartoons but spurns action/adventure/narrative shows.
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