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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby lhb412 » Fri May 19, 2017 8:38 pm

Wow. They're really going all out for this thing.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby mr.negativity » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:57 pm

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Re: DuckTales 1987 vs DuckTales 2017

Postby mr.negativity » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:30 am

io9 08/08/2017:
The New DuckTales Is a Perfect Example of How Today's Cartoons Are the Best They've Ever Been
Katharine Trendacosta wrote:Disney XD’s revitalized and rebooted DuckTales is a testament to the staying power of Scrooge McDuck and his nephews Huey, Dewey, and Louie. It’s also a grand showing of how far animation in general has come since 1987.

Comparing the TV movie that serves as the pilot for the new DuckTales to the first few episodes in the 1987 run is an interesting exercise, since the new show lifts the essentials from that story, while still being different enough in the details to be engaging. Scrooge still takes on the role of watching Huey, Dewey, and Louie very reluctantly. They still take to adventuring with gusto. Even a number of the same old villains from the first arc pop up again.

What’s changed a lot is the characterization. The new show’s synthesized the original show with some bits of the comics, while still coming up with its own version of the characters. Mrs. Beakley has gone from her more standard matronly character to a deadpan badass, for example. Webby’s gone from just being “the girl” to someone who is such a fan of Scrooge’s that she’s memorized all his adventures and has spent a fair bit of her life preparing to go on adventures. She’s still very upbeat, but it comes from a place rooted in knowledge. (Launchpad McQuack has regressed to being even weirder than his original incarnation, and he’s so out there it’s kind of amazing.) The biggest changes, however, come in the form of Scrooge McDuck and the nephews.

If you’ve followed Scrooge McDuck from comic book to 1987 cartoon through to now, you’d know that the character has undergone a fair amount of softening. The character’s original introduction was as Donald’s miserly uncle. The 1987 show gave him a hidden heart of gold where his family was concerned but retained Scrooge’s nasty distaste for the poor.

The new reboot has softened Scrooge even more. There are jokes in the original show’s first episode that make it nearly impossible for a modern audience to like him—one of first bits of dialogue is about how the poor don’t deserve anything. The new show focuses a lot more on Scrooge’s history as an adventurer who’s let his passion fall by the wayside, even as he hoards a truly staggering number of dangerous artifacts in his home.

While Scrooge still keeps track of all his money, the cruelty of the original Scrooge is downplayed—thankfully. There’s also a deeper, more interesting rift between Donald Duck and his uncle that the show uses to its advantage. (Donald just kind of drops the kids off at Scrooge’s because he joined he Navy in the original; Donald’s reasons are a lot more fleshed out and tied to the main story in the new show.)

Part of the joke of Huey, Dewey, and Louie was that they were identical and the only thing that separated them was the color of their hats and shirts. That’s extremely not the case in the new show. From the design alone, you can see more work has been made to distinguish the brothers.

Making Huey a planner, Dewey a middle child, and Louie a gung-ho adventurer not only gives them distinct personalities, but also opens up the sibling dynamic in a lot more interesting ways.

DuckTales does all that and still has room for a Scrooge who is “smarter than the smarties and tougher than the toughies” and, of course, does a swan dive into a vault filled with gold. The things no one wanted to change—like the theme song—remain intact, while the things that have changed only add to the show.

Is the 2017 DuckTales as transcendent a piece of animation as, say, Steven Universe or Avatar? No. It’s aimed a very young audience with an added number of references and Easter eggs for the parents who watched the original show to enjoy. But it’s an extremely smart update that knows exactly what to keep and what to change.

And most of all, the new DuckTales is emblematic of the larger trend of children’s animation getting more serialized and more emotionally honest. It’s mostly still made up of jokes and good, fun action, but adopting some of the newer animation trends has made this DuckTales even better than it was before.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby lhb412 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:55 pm

^I like most of what I'm hearing, and I'm pretty sure the cartoon will be good, but it is disappointing to hear that this version of Scrooge is even nicer than he was in the original series, because even the original series Scrooge was a much softer character than the prickly, greedy, somewhat villainous character of the comics. He's more antihero than hero. Donald and the nephews are heroes. Scrooge flaws propel the story, often causing the conflicts or at the very least exacerbating them.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby lhb412 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:22 pm

Really impressed with the pilot. Looked great, great characters, great scope. I can image this being a kid's first introduction to these characters and falling in love with them for the first time.

It really is 1/3rd the original DuckTales cartoon, 1/3rd the original Barks comics (bringing back in elements the original cartoon left out or altered), and another 1/3rd entirely modern reinvention - the final moments introduces an over-arching mystery plot that I'm sure will play out over the course of the series. Can't get anymore modern than that!

While it does seem that some of Scrooge's miserly cheapskate properties (my favorite thing about that character) have been washed over in favor of emphasizing his swashbuckling nature, I didn't mind largely because a) I was one over by Tennant's performance, and b) I was just so enamored with how they did the other most important character in the Uncle Scrooge comics: Donald Duck. Donald was, in my opinion, a perfect wedding of the classic cartoon Donald and the (really quite different) Donald of the comics. Seeing him save Dewey from the deathtraps and play along with the baddies to bide his time was great because it showed how competent he can be in the right situations, something even Don Rosa often got wrong in his Scrooge comics.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:01 am

ok, so I was never a fan of Duck Tales as a kid. in fact I wasn't into any of the Disney toons, in the early 90's but many of my friends were. My son was watching this on Saturday, I was kind of half-paying attention, in a room with a loud fan, so most of it was lost on me but...was there a line where Donald actually called a female a "Dumb Broad"? if so, I have no idea how they got that to air, harkens back to the original Donald Cartoons, of course it could have just been something I misheard, and Donald's speech impediment...

Anyway, How odd is it that 2 cartoons in the past month I've watched had a headless horse! (New Puss in Boots on Netflix, and now this...) ...that's just all kinds of strange if you ask me.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby lhb412 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:45 pm

^I don't know. I didn't hear him say it (but, as you say, the impediment), and I know the show has a bunch of female creatives behind the scenes, so I'm not confident that such a line would make it out of the writers room.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby The Shadow » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:52 am

Caught the premier over the weekend, I thought it was pretty good. The new series seems like a good new take on the Duck comics & the first Ducktales show. Interesting to see Webby aged up to the same age as Huey, Dewey, & Louie -- that should prove to be good ground for future stories as the new show looks like it will have a heightened adventure level over the original. I'm also pleased that it appears the new series will also be a half-hour show and not follow the 15 minute format that currently dominates the new cartoons.

Also, I wasn't paying much attention to news of the show over the last couple months so I was nicely surprised today to see that Darkwing Duck will be on the new show too. I guess some clips were shown at the SDCC panel, but I've only seen this single still image of Darkwing Duck as he will look in the new series:

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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby lhb412 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:50 pm

The amount of in-jokes and references is dense: the dragon's name (Pixiu) is a homonym for the French name for Uncle Scrooge (Uncle Picsou).

Every background newspaper headline or whatnot references either the Disney afternoon cartoons or the Barks and Rosa comics.
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Re: New DuckTales series from Disney

Postby XvGojira » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:41 pm

Here's all 44-minutes of the first episode on Disney XD's Youtube channel.

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A friend of mine isn't into the show simply because the newphews don't have the squawky Duck accent like the original and that they sound too much like adults and not kids.
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