Prophecies Of Nostradamus or Last War

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which do you enjoy more?

Great Prophecies of Nostradamus
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40%
Great World War (Last War)
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60%
 
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Prophecies Of Nostradamus or Last War

Postby Gigantis_99 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:51 pm

I havent yet seen the Last War but have seen Prophecies of Nostradamus and wanted to know who liked what best?
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Postby neo godzilla jr » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:49 pm

A conundrum appears:

I have seen the pureed cut of Nostradamus, Last days of planet bla, and liked it, enough.

I have the uncut, unsubbed original, but w/o a knowledge of japanese, i can't base my opinion on anything but the images...which range from breathtaking to horrifying to shoot me, shoot me now quality

I have seen an uncut and subbed copy of the Last War, and believe it to be one of the greatest Japanese films ever, let alone Honda works.

However, both films have given me many sleepless nights and deepenend my depression. Both plots (and visuals) can send the most courageous person away in tears and unravel the sanest.

I have put these with On the Beach, as lessons to be taught to mankind so I and millions of others can have a chance to live.

I think ill watch War of the Gargantuas or Atragon to make me feel better.
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Postby GFan » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:41 pm

PROPHECIES OF NOSTRADAMUS is a masterpiece IMO. :D The 114 minute original cut is just amazing, most certainly one of my all time favorite Japanese scifi/fantasy movies.

I haven't seen THE LAST WAR, but if it's anything like GORATH, ATRAGON and BATTLE IN OUTER SPACE... I'll still prefer THE GREAT PROPHECIES OF NOSTRADAMUS best.
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Postby Gigantis_99 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:30 pm

Yeah, I thought I might check out Last War but I'll probably just stick with PON for awhile! I agree with you GFan Prophecies is definititly a masterpiece!
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Postby MouthForWar » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:40 am

neo godzilla jr wrote:A conundrum appears:

I have seen the pureed cut of Nostradamus, Last days of planet bla, and liked it, enough.

I have the uncut, unsubbed original, but w/o a knowledge of japanese, i can't base my opinion on anything but the images...which range from breathtaking to horrifying to shoot me, shoot me now quality

I have seen an uncut and subbed copy of the Last War, and believe it to be one of the greatest Japanese films ever, let alone Honda works.

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Postby August » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:27 am

THE LAST WAR (Sekai Daisenso, 1961) was directed by Shuei Matsubayashi who also helmed I BOMBED PEARL HARBOR (Taiheiyo-no Arashi, 1960).
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Postby neo godzilla jr » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:04 am

Sorry, i was suffering from sleep deprivation and haven't eaten @ that time
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Postby Gigantis_99 » Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:35 pm

Wow, even though PON is sorta rare and all I expected most people to like it more Last War must be a really good movie over Prophecies.
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Postby August » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:43 am

I prefer POD over LW... "Let's go there!" :)
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Postby GFan » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:58 pm

Gigantis_99 wrote:Wow, even though PON is sorta rare and all I expected most people to like it more Last War must be a really good movie over Prophecies.


I believe THE LAST WAR has more votes than PoN because not everyone has seen the original 114 minute cut (& with subtitles). Some may base their opinion on seeing THE LAST DAYS OF PLANET EARTH which unfortunately is the most seen/available version. LDoPE is the worse "American reworking" of a Toho film I've seen yet.

Oh, that, and.. there's only been 5 votes. :lol:
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Re: Prophecies Of Nostradamus or Last War

Postby Shokara » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:12 am

Sorry for dragging a very old thread from the message board grave, but I just recently was finally able to see Prophecies of Nostradamus (the uncut 114 min. version with English subtitles), this oh so rare movie I'd heard so much about. I won't go as far as saying the movie is a masterpiece, but overall it is one of Toho's best crafted special effects laden event movies. It is certainly hands down one of their darkest and bleakest movies, many of its images and events being haunting, although a lot of the supporting cast of characters are rather underdeveloped and seem to just exist to react to the disasters as they occur.

Comparison to The Last War is certainly unavoidable as both movies share many similarities (even footage). Which one do I like more? It's hard to say, because both movies have their strengths and weaknesses over each other. The Last War is definitely the more sentimental of the two which is both its strength and weakness depending on one's point of view. Some may say it aims to celebrate the warmth and hope that simple family life cherishes in the face of oppressive crisis while others may say that it goes too far with it, lacking any subtlety and becoming schmultzy in the process. Another weakness is the depiction of the world superpowers using fantasy nation states to avoid offense and the often amateurish acting from the foreign actors in the movie.

Prophecies of Nostradamus is a bleaker story and is decidedly more subdued with its depiction of ordinary people doing their best to face catastrophe with their heads held high. Its use of foreign actors with limited acting ability is also at a much lesser degree than The Last War, and these scenes are pulled with somewhat better finesse. However, some of the supporting characters aren't quite given enough screentime or development to truly make us care for their hardships as the world faces chaos.

I guess what it all boils down to is that while Prophecies of Nostradamus gave me the shudders several times, The Last War made me cry. At the end of the latter, I was also much more thankful that the movie's scenario never actually happened, because history clearly shows us that it very well could have happened if things turned out a little differently. The prophecies of Nostradamus are a much more subjective matter as his writings are very open to interpretation and have been manipulated by many over the years. Despite whatever flaws it has, Prophecies of Nostradamus is still one of the better apocalyptic movies I've seen in some time. I recommend it to any fan of Toho special effects movies.
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Re: Prophecies Of Nostradamus or Last War

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:52 am

I watched this movie a few months ago and I really enjoyed everything except the ending. But one of my favorite parts of the film is the soundtrack. This film has probably one of my favorite Toho soundtracks. Isao Tomita did a Hell of a job. Anyway, I just discovered Isao Tomita passed on May 6th, of this year and I did not hear anything about this. So RIP Mister Tomita. Your music will live on.
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