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Postby kpa » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:22 am

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kpa wrote:Since Armand spoke to Banno maybe he can confirm or correct this, but from what I've heard the IMAX film is far from a done deal.

Banno's assistant Kenji Okuhira attended the Egyptian Godzilla Festival, and he and I have kept in touch since then. Kenji told that an IMAX Godzilla film has been Banno's dream project for quite some time and he is currently trying to raise funding for it.


Before responding to this, I re-checked my videotape of the dinner with Mr. Banno's talk. He has Toho's okay to use Godzilla and Hedorah in the IMAX film. Specifically, no official announcement can be made until the run of Final Wars (including theaters and DVD sales) is completed. As far as funding is concerned, he did not specify the funding source(s). But from what was said, Toho will be backing this project.


Thanks for the additional info, Armand. I think this sounds like a great project (particularly since Banno's had plans for a Godzilla/Hedorah rematch since 1971) and hope Banno can pull this off.
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Postby SparkieGojira » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:35 am

I'm sure I said it before but this would be like my dream movie! It's such a shame Banno's bold new direction for the series was curtailed, if he and such advant guard directors had been allowed to carry G into the 70's the original series may have never died.
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Postby musukogoji » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:43 am

SparkieGojira wrote:if he and such advant guard directors had been allowed to carry G into the 70's the original series may have never died.


Sadly, Sparkie, nothing could have saved Godzilla in the 70's. Japan was in a severe recession. Kids could get their monster fix for free on TV. Why go to the movies and see Godzilla?
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Postby OtiGoji » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:59 am

Call me Capt. Bringdown, but I doubt IMAX cameras will film a traditional Godzilla movie. I think IMAX cameras are wholly unsuitable for SPFX micro-cinematography of miniature sets. Either the tradtional 35mm film would have to be transferred to the 15 perf 70mm film for IMAX projection or they go with CG for a thrill ride film.
I don't remember anyone asking for another digital Godzilla movie recently, but a CG Hedorah might be trippy!

Whatever format the content will be, producing a 3D IMAX movie will be quite expensive (and for SPFX, technically challenging) and I don't know if thats something Toho wants.
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Postby Gojira69 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:07 pm

ryuuseipro wrote:<snip>Needless to say, I hope this upcoming IMAX project comes to America sometime! I mean, the Science Museum of Virginia (here in downtown Richmond right next to DMV, where my mom works) shows IMAX movies!!! Seeing a Godzilla movie there would totally kick ass and light up my life! :D


So what is the aspect ratio of an IMAX film and do I have to buy a new TV to watch this in its OAR? :wink:

James Ballard wrote:It's a "gimmick" because it's being produced on a very specialised format


The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'gimmick' as "a trick or device intended to attract attention rather than fulfil a useful purpose". All entertainment, INCLUDING color TV, DVDs etc are hence 'gimmicks'.

Then he wrote:[it]can only be shown at IMAX cinemas, and will most likely not recieve a home video release. It's a film with a limited audience and time frame.


Except for the fact that IMAX films are routinely shown in venues other than 'IMAX cinemas' every time they show up on home video release. Whenever someone purchases an IMAX-made film on DVD and shows it in their home, voila! its being shown outside an IMAX cinema, has received home video release, and the potential audience and time frame have been extended.

Also he wrote:3D has been around for a long time now, and it hasn't taken off as a mainstream format (like colour TV, DVDs, ect). Hence, gimmick.


For me the term that truly defines IMAX films is not 'gimmick' (with its pejorative connotations) but rather 'novelty', i.e. something different. 3-D has always been and may always be a novelty item. But as such it stands in its own right and as far as novelties go it is a damn cool one when executed well.

Kaiju Nexus wrote:I don't like 3D films. They're tacky and flashy. And you need stupid, dorky-looking glasses to see its tacky 3D effect.


You know, I almost agree with this sentiment for MOST 3-D I do anyway, but IMAX 3-D takes advantage of the viewers' range of vision and the 3-D comes off quite well, and WITHOUT the use of those tacky glasses. Please do not confuse the usual 3D crap you see in videos and comics with IMAX 3D. I felt like I was going to fall into the Grand Canyon when I watched an IMAX film about it. In this case IMAX 3D has to be judged in its own right and by reason of its own merits or demerits. In other words, don't knock it until you've tried it.

Jorzilla wrote:It's supposed to be educational.


Where did you read this? I checked the original article on MZ and did not see this at all. Seems like you are simply repeating an erroneous assumption from a previous thread, as you said,"ALREADY MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL PART " I realize that many IMAX films are of an educational nature, but not all.
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Postby edgodzi » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:37 pm

It is far from certain that this film will ever be made. This has been 'in the works' for a long time, mostly in America. As of now, there is no money committed to it, and I am skeptical that anyone would throw money at this kind of project. And if you thought the original film was pyschedelic or offbeat, it is actually as tame as an episode of The Donna Reed Show compared to the bizarre stuff that is planned for this one. As a result, I can't imagine who will invest in this, but stranger things have happened.

I was shocked to see it ever mentioned in a public forum as it was supposed to be kept quiet.

Good luck to Mr. Banno, but this one falls in the category of I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it.

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Postby ryuuseipro » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:58 pm

Gojira69 wrote:
ryuuseipro wrote:<snip>Needless to say, I hope this upcoming IMAX project comes to America sometime! I mean, the Science Museum of Virginia (here in downtown Richmond right next to DMV, where my mom works) shows IMAX movies!!! Seeing a Godzilla movie there would totally kick ass and light up my life! :D


So what is the aspect ratio of an IMAX film and do I have to buy a new TV to watch this in its OAR? :wink:


The average aspect ratio for an IMAX movie is 1.44:1. As for how they're transferred to DVD, it all depends. They could be either 1.33:1 (fullscreen), 1.85:1, etc.
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Postby planetxman » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:18 am

edgodzi wrote:It is far from certain that this film will ever be made. This has been 'in the works' for a long time, mostly in America. As of now, there is no money committed to it, and I am skeptical that anyone would throw money at this kind of project. And if you thought the original film was pyschedelic or offbeat, it is actually as tame as an episode of The Donna Reed Show compared to the bizarre stuff that is planned for this one. As a result, I can't imagine who will invest in this, but stranger things have happened.

I was shocked to see it ever mentioned in a public forum as it was supposed to be kept quiet.

Good luck to Mr. Banno, but this one falls in the category of I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it.

Ed G.


Is it true that Toho is upset with Banno ?
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Postby JordanGLC » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:35 pm

Kind of surprised that this thread hadn't been revived. Is everyone waiting for what Banno will say at G-Fest before weighing in? I'm not going to be there, so hopefully someone from this board who will be there will fill us in ASAP.

I looked up Banno on imdb, and don't see any recent producer credits. Has anyone seen any of his previous 15 IMAX efforts? How about this Robert Holden fellow? Is he based in the States, and have any of the "connected" folks that frequent this board tried contacting him?

Anyone have any opinions on what Godzilla will look like? Will they go retro with him?

BTW, I did see The Polar Express this past winter at an IMAX in 3D. It was great! If this project comes to fruition, I can't wait to see how they utilize the format. Hopefully they'll do some stuff to give the audience the sense that they're at ground level amongst the monsters. One scene that comes to mind is the "That's my house!" moment from GxMG. Imagine the house debris flying out of the screen in 3D (or for that matter the blown up jet crashing into the house scene in GMK).

Oh, and the sound system of an IMAX theater! :eek:

I really, really hope this happens.
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Postby Dr Kain » Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:09 am

What the heck is IMAX?
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Postby SparkieGojira » Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:16 am

IMAX is a super tall and giant film format.... but not as big as Omnimax...

I am sure others can explain it better thant I.
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Postby Master Fwiffo » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:49 am

Dr Kain wrote:What the heck is IMAX?



A really really really really REALLY frikken big screen.
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Postby JordanGLC » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:36 am

Dr Kain wrote:What the heck is IMAX?

If I remember correctly you live in the Buffalo/Rochester area? If so, you can check it out here.
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Postby china » Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:16 pm

Any truth to this IMAX movie being about Godzilla fight some locusts in the rain forests? Probably rumors I suppose...
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Postby JordanGLC » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:07 pm

^^ Is there no one from this board that attended G-Fest? Give us the skinny! please :wink:
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Postby UltraGodzillaX » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:57 pm

I heard from Tokyo Monsters Forum that this one member attended to Banno's speech, and this is what he gave us...


1. Godzilla's in CGI. No, he will not be GINO, he will still be the Japanese Godzilla, but just in full CGI.

2. A new monster called "Desera", so I guess it's not called "Deathla" after all. It appears that it starts out as swarms of Locusts that ravage the rainforest, but during the battle with Godzilla in New York, they transform into a giant monster.

3. The budget for this film is around $10 million.


That's all I know so far.
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Postby Kaijufan » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:21 am

The main thing I remember from the session is that Godzilla is going to fly again!
Also, after G-Fest Mr. Banno was going to California(?) to try and get funding for the movie. If all goes well and he's able to get 10 million for the film he hopes to have the film done by this time next year.
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Postby MechaMothra » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:32 am

UltraGodzillaX wrote:I heard from Tokyo Monsters Forum that this one member attended to Banno's speech, and this is what he gave us...


1. Godzilla's in CGI. No, he will not be GINO, he will still be the Japanese Godzilla, but just in full CGI.

2. A new monster called "Desera", so I guess it's not called "Deathla" after all. It appears that it starts out as swarms of Locusts that ravage the rainforest, but during the battle with Godzilla in New York, they transform into a giant monster.

3. The budget for this film is around $10 million.

That's all I know so far.


well I was there... :D .... basically you got it down besides the parts about Godzilla possibly flying to New York City :lol: no joke either Banno said that Toho told him not to change the monsters character but he told them that Godzilla flew before so its not changing anything thats not 100% that he will fly (so don't start your bitching, :lol: ) but he's going to some meetings in LA soon to do some things for the movie. if anyone else who was there would like to add more ... go for it!!!
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Postby TitanoGoji16 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:37 am

UltraGodzillaX wrote:1. Godzilla's in CGI. No, he will not be GINO, he will still be the Japanese Godzilla, but just in full CGI.

2. A new monster called "Desera", so I guess it's not called "Deathla" after all. It appears that it starts out as swarms of Locusts that ravage the rainforest, but during the battle with Godzilla in New York, they transform into a giant monster.


1. A CGI Godzilla? Sounds cool. If this had been a year or so ago, I'd dread this news. But after seeing Zilla in Final Wars, I now look forward to a CGI kaiju from Toho.

2. No Hedorah? Oh well... :( As for Desera, at least we're getting a brand new monster! A swarm of insects that ends up as a giant monster? That's awesome, and definitely has never seen before!

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Postby walshbeme » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:38 am

Seems like Desera is Japanese for Deathla just like how it is with Mosura = Mothra. Maybe the actual spelling is Desura = Deathra. Interesting though how Hedorah seems to have dropped out of the picture. No sluge ball just one more big ugly bug, which could be a very good thing bringing in a totally new monster. The big surprise here is that there's not much talk about it.
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Postby planetxleader » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:34 am

Don't forget Desughidorah = Death Ghidorah. I'm pretty sure the name will still be Deathla/Deathra, which is kind of a lame name.

Other than that, sounds cool! I wouldn't mind a CGI Godzilla; it could look really awesome (especially since it's not GINO), but I would still like to see some suitmation.

I'm kind of sad we're not getting to see Hedorah. He got the shaft in Final Wars and now he's not gonna be in the new Banno film... but, I applaud any effort to create a new, different kaiju for Godzilla to fight. I like the locust thing, though it does sound kind of like the Maganula swarm. I wonder what "Desera's" final form will look like?

And Godzilla flying again?! In a generation where Godzilla does 100 mile high jumps and soccer goalie moves, anything is possible! :lol:
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Postby TitanoGoji16 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:05 am

I can't believe I just thought of this... now, mind you, I wasn't present for Banno's session, but...

How likely is it that we might get Hedorah, in addition to Deathra? Even in a supporting role? Maybe Hedorah could be present early in the film, only to be offed by Godzilla or Deathra later on? Or a fight with all three?

Yeah, I know it's unlikely and Hedorah's probably out of the picture for good, but I was all set to see a new film with the Smog Monster, dagnabbit! :P
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Postby JordanGLC » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:01 am

Could U.S. investors = U.S. screenings? :)

As for Godzilla flying, since it's Banno I'd be OK with it. It'll be interesting to see if they change anything about it. I can see the trail of steam he leaves as he skims over the ocean's surface now.

Not too keen on exclusive CG. Use the best method for the given shot.

For those who were there @ G-Fest:
Did Banno speak to whether Godzilla would be portrayed as an outright hero as in the 70's Showa movies?

Any more detail regarding how Godzilla will look?
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Postby Master Fwiffo » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:59 am

Locusts?

RANMA INAGOS!

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Postby Green Dragon » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:08 pm

TitanoGoji16 wrote:Yeah, I know it's unlikely and Hedorah's probably out of the picture for good, but I was all set to see a new film with the Smog Monster, dagnabbit! :P


At this point, a film featuring just Hedorah would probably be the way to go. :?
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