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canofhumdingers wrote:Some of my thoughts after sleeping on it:
I walked out of the theater loving it and I still do, can't wait to see it again (hopefully tonight).
People who keep saying this isn't your traditional Godzilla movie are flat out WRONG. This was an amazingly traditional Godzilla movie presented with a modern flair and a wildly modern, heavily anime-inspired take on the monster himself. And I'm honestly a bit surprised I liked it so much b/c I generally dislike anime, but I loved this take on Godzilla!
But getting back to it being a VERY traditional Godzilla movie...
-Godzilla appeared unexpectedly out of the ground/ocean much like his reveals in MvsG '64, KKvsG, GvsMG (popping out of the warehouse)
-He goes on a rampage while the government argues and debates over how to handle him (see G'54, Mothra vs Godzilla, G'84, etc.)
-a plucky group of nerds, fed up with the government bureaucracy and infighting, sets out on their on to find a solution (see... I dunno almost every Godzilla movie?)
-the military has a (freaking epic!) battle with Godzilla and fails utterly (again, too many G movies to list)
-the plan put in place to stop Godzilla is crazy bonkers pseudo-science and rather unbelievable/logistically impossible (see: filling rivers with gasoline and lighting them on fire to direct Godzilla into a GIANT tiger trap, luring G to giant tesla coils and dropping metal nets in order to electrocute him, carrying Kong with balloons and helicopters, creating thunderstorms and a giant grid of electric foot pads... The list goes on and on).
So yeah, at every turn, I was constantly being reminded of classic films as I watched this movie, which was great. But at the same time, the presentation was so new and engaging, and Godzilla himself was so wild, that it all felt very fresh and new and fun!
The movie felt like Japan itself. Incredibly traditional and incredibly modern all at the same time and somehow, almost magically finding a balance to it all despite the direct conflict presented by such a concept.
Moonlight SY-3 wrote:
So, is the screen pretty full of English subtitles all the time, as I suspected it would be with such dense dialogue? Are all the Japanese subtitles still there? Very curious how they were going to handle all that.
lhb412 wrote:Moonlight SY-3 wrote:
So, is the screen pretty full of English subtitles all the time, as I suspected it would be with such dense dialogue? Are all the Japanese subtitles still there? Very curious how they were going to handle all that.
Japanese subtitles still onscreen. Wonder if they'll give Funimation a 'clean' print without optical titles so they can do purely English text for the English language version?
canofhumdingers wrote:Also, what the heck was up with the second wave of train bombs magically floating/flying up to and impacting/sticking to Godzilla as they exploded?
Moonlight SY-3 wrote:Seems like they were not able to finish the CGI they wanted to before the overseas release,
canofhumdingers wrote:Saw it again tonight and it solidified my previous opinion.
Noticed more things hardening back to classic G films...
-Goro Maki, the name has been used in more than one film
-Goro Maki - the mysterious, disgraced professor reminiscent of Mafune from TOMG
And there was something else that I just can't remember right now.
Also, what the heck was up with the second wave of train bombs magically floating/flying up to and impacting/sticking to Godzilla as they exploded?
Dr Kain wrote:Moonlight SY-3 wrote:Seems like they were not able to finish the CGI they wanted to before the overseas release,
I'm sorry, but what? If they released the movie with unfinished effects than that is total laziness on Toho's part, like Heisei levels of laziness, if not worse. WTF is wrong with them?!
canofhumdingers wrote:Saw it again tonight and it solidified my previous opinion.
Noticed more things hardening back to classic G films...
-Goro Maki, the name has been used in more than one film
-Goro Maki - the mysterious, disgraced professor reminiscent of Mafune from TOMG
And there was something else that I just can't remember right now.
Also, what the heck was up with the second wave of train bombs magically floating/flying up to and impacting/sticking to Godzilla as they exploded?
Dr Kain wrote:Moonlight SY-3 wrote:Seems like they were not able to finish the CGI they wanted to before the overseas release,
I'm sorry, but what? If they released the movie with unfinished effects than that is total laziness on Toho's part, like Heisei levels of laziness, if not worse. WTF is wrong with them?!
lhb412 wrote:Dr Kain wrote:Moonlight SY-3 wrote:Seems like they were not able to finish the CGI they wanted to before the overseas release,
I'm sorry, but what? If they released the movie with unfinished effects than that is total laziness on Toho's part, like Heisei levels of laziness, if not worse. WTF is wrong with them?!
It was a down-to-the-wire thing: they were working on completing the digital effects right up to the time of release, and a few shots don't look finished. Remember that they ended up with a far bigger digital workload than they thought they would because the practical Godzilla prop was unsatisfactory.
Nevertheless,[b][b] laziness is laziness[/b][/b]. Next time they should just stick to actual suits and wire work since that is what they are good at. They don't have the ability, knowhow, time, [b]effort[/b], or budget to do CGI monsters. And if there was an issue with the actual suit, then maybe they shouldn't make a Godzilla that looked like an abortion gone wrong.
Dr Kain wrote:laziness is laziness.
kiryugoji04 wrote:Big companies make release dates, not movies.
kiryugoji04 wrote:Oh, by the way, I LOVED the movie. I love this series for how wildly varied the stories it has presented us can be and I love that some movies can be pulpy fun while others can actually find something really interesting to say about the world. Shin Godzilla really delivered in the latter regard.
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