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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:43 am

I'm really happy with how this has turned out.

I think the '04-'14 drought will be the longest Godzilla hiatus is my lifetime. I'm calling it!
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:56 am

... and theaters/fandango keep updating their list of US Shin Godzilla screenings. Per Astounding Beyond Belief:

http://astoundingbeyondbelief.tumblr.co ... screenings

Really wish Funi would just announce, but I suppose they want to have a domestic trailer and poster and whathaveyou at the same time to make a nice package to circulate on all the sites and on social media.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:17 pm

Box Office Mojo has updated with actuals for weekend five. Shin Godzilla had its best hold yet, easing just -6.8% to $3,538,830 for a $52,092,893 total through Sunday, August 28. It's a lock for $60m at this point and it could even end up hitting $70m, which is where the current highest-grossing movie released in Japan this year (Disney's Zootopia) topped out.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:49 pm

I read it seems to be holding steady for the #2 place this weekend and that $70 million isn't out of the question by the end of this!
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Hybrid Gojira » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:19 am

Despite misgivings I have about the movie going in - it is nice to see it performing so well. I plan to see it at least twice in theaters once it's out in October.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby GFan » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:36 pm

Relieved to find somewhere only an hour away is showing Shin Goji near me! Words cannot express how excited I am for this! :mrgreen:
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Re: Shin Godzilla Box Office

Postby mr.negativity » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:53 am

THR:
Japan Box Office: 'Godzilla Resurgence' Becomes Biggest Live-Action Film of Year With $60M
Gavin J. Blair wrote:Godzilla Resurgence (Shin Gojira) climbed one spot back up the box office charts in Japan to No. 2 this weekend during its sixth weekend of release, taking another $3.2 million to bring its total in the country to more than $60 million from 4.1 million admissions.

The revival of the iconic monster franchise by Toho is now the biggest live-action hit of the year in Japan and has already surpassed the studio's initial forecasts. The 29th installment of the franchise has also taken total admissions over the 100 million mark, the highest for any live-action series in Japan.

Your Name (Kimi no Na wa), the manga-to-anime adaptation by Makoto Shinkai, held on to the top spot after its big opening last weekend, pulling in another $11.6 million to take its total to $38 million.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:59 pm

Hybrid Gojira wrote:Here's a quote from Sean Linkenback regarding actual ticket sales

"As Shin Godzilla looks to have a strong third weekend and finish a close #2 overall for the week, I thought it would be good to remind people that traditionally, Japan measures movies by total attendance since ticket prices can change so much over the years (and Toho is attaching a higher per ticket price to this film than other competing films), with that in mind, here are the attendance numbers for the series (All-Time number refers to Japanese Attendance Records):
Admissions:
12.55 million - Godzilla vs. King Kong (1962) #12 All-Time
9.60 million - Godzilla (1954) #18 All-Time
8.34 million - Godzilla Raids Again (1955) #25 All-Time
7.20 million - Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964) #39 All-Time
5.41 million - Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster (1964) #83 All-Time
5.13 million - Invasion of Astro-Monster (1965) #89 All-Time
4.21 million - Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (1966)
4.20 million - Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)
4.00 million - Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)
3.90 million - Godzilla (1998) *Hollywood*
3.80 million - Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II (1993)
3.40 million - Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla (1994)
~3.30 million - Shin Godzilla (2016) *Projection*
3.20 million - The Return of Godzilla (1984)
2.70 million - Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)
2.50 million - Destroy All Monsters (1968)
2.48 million - Son of Godzilla (1967)
2.40 million - Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack (2001)
2.23 million - Godzilla (2014) *Hollywood*
2.00 million - Godzlla vs. Biollante (1989)
2.00 million - Godzilla 2000 (1999)
1.78 million - Godzilla vs Gigan (1972)
1.74 million - Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)
1.70 million - Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla III (2002)
1.48 million - All Monsters Attack (1969)
1.35 million - Godzilla vs Megaguirus (2000)
1.33 million - Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)
1.20 million - Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S (2003)
1.00 million - Godzilla: Final Wars (2004)
0.98 million - Godzilla vs Megalon (1973)
0.97 million - Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975)"



Okay, now we've far exceeding the initial projections and have passed Destoroyah and are just under vs. Mothra now, right?

Man, we're on route to outsell the entire Heisei series and have the most attended domestic Godzilla release since the '60s! I think by the end we'll be in the #7 spot under Monster Zero and above Sea Monster.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Gman2887 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:25 am

THR misinterpreted a report by Anime News Network based off of a report from Cinema Today. It has not crossed $60 million yet. The movie made $58.2-$58.4 million this weekend (depending on your source) but it has surpassed Destoroyah's attendance record at 4.08-4.1 million.

At this point it's a foregone conclusion it will be the most attended Godzilla movie in 51 years. They're now projecting it to hit around mid-$70 million. It could potentially top Monster Zero if it hits $73-$75 million.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Gman2887 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:11 am

And it's official. The movie is the most attended Godzilla movie in 50 years with over 4.2 million. It's currently at an estimated $59.6 million:

http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0085867
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:32 pm

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2078075/full/?ref_cd=tw

This article says that Shin Godzilla has sold 4,208,608 tickets and grossed ¥6,134,929,000 after 40 days in release (through this past Tuesday). Both xe.com and Google's currency conversion calculator bring that out to over $60.329m in US dollars, although they differ on the exact amount.

It's pretty incredible that Shin Godzilla has broken the $60m mark and sold more tickets than Godzilla vs. Mothra, the most successful Heisei Series entry. Now it's on the cusp of surpassing the 4.21m admissions of Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster to become the seventh-most-attended Godzilla movie in Japan. The top six are all among the top 100 most-attended films in Japanese history and it will be fascinating to see how close Shin Godzilla gets to that upper echelon.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:46 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:It's pretty incredible that Shin Godzilla has broken the $60m mark and sold more tickets than Godzilla vs. Mothra, the most successful Heisei Series entry. Now it's on the cusp of surpassing the 4.21m admissions of Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster to become the seventh-most-attended Godzilla movie in Japan. The top six are all among the top 100 most-attended films in Japanese history and it will be fascinating to see how close Shin Godzilla gets to that upper echelon.


I went to find a gif of Richard Roundtree saying "It's a whole new world, baby!" from the end of Speed Racer, but I'm not sure such a gif exists (though it should). Just use your imaginations:

"It's a whole new world, baby!"
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby GFan » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:45 am

Maybe now Toho will realize you don't need Mothra in something to sell tickets. :lol:
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby angilas » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:33 am

Hybrid Gojira wrote:
Here's a quote from Sean Linkenback regarding actual ticket sales - if you think Shin is the "most successful Godzilla movie ever," keep dreaming. It will end up making loads of money thanks to inflated ticket prices, but don't call it something it isn't. The original Godzilla film will still probably sell 3x more tickets than Shin.

"As Shin Godzilla looks to have a strong third weekend and finish a close #2 overall for the week, I thought it would be good to remind people that traditionally, Japan measures movies by total attendance since ticket prices can change so much over the years (and Toho is attaching a higher per ticket price to this film than other competing films), with that in mind, here are the attendance numbers for the series (All-Time number refers to Japanese Attendance Records):
Admissions:
12.55 million - Godzilla vs. King Kong (1962) #12 All-Time
9.60 million - Godzilla (1954) #18 All-Time
8.34 million - Godzilla Raids Again (1955) #25 All-Time
7.20 million - Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964) #39 All-Time
5.41 million - Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster (1964) #83 All-Time
5.13 million - Invasion of Astro-Monster (1965) #89 All-Time
4.21 million - Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (1966)
4.20 million - Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)
4.00 million - Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)
3.90 million - Godzilla (1998) *Hollywood*
3.80 million - Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II (1993)
3.40 million - Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla (1994)
~3.30 million - Shin Godzilla (2016) *Projection*
3.20 million - The Return of Godzilla (1984)
2.70 million - Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)
2.50 million - Destroy All Monsters (1968)
2.48 million - Son of Godzilla (1967)
2.40 million - Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack (2001)
2.23 million - Godzilla (2014) *Hollywood*
2.00 million - Godzlla vs. Biollante (1989)
2.00 million - Godzilla 2000 (1999)
1.78 million - Godzilla vs Gigan (1972)
1.74 million - Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)
1.70 million - Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla III (2002)
1.48 million - All Monsters Attack (1969)
1.35 million - Godzilla vs Megaguirus (2000)
1.33 million - Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)
1.20 million - Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S (2003)
1.00 million - Godzilla: Final Wars (2004)
0.98 million - Godzilla vs Megalon (1973)
0.97 million - Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975)"


Shin isn't even on pace to outsell half of the Heisei films.


I guess I really should ask Sean but perhaps you know.
Where are the top 100 attended films in japanese cinema listed? I'm guessing I could find it in japanese if I looked hard enough but I can't find it online anywhere.
Reason I'm asking is I'm trying to do a calculation of what it would take in terms of gross to break that record.

Based on recent gross to attendance ratio stats I gather that at $58 Million USD gross and 4 million attended there's a 14.5 to 1 ratio for gross and attendance.

Films in japan run on a 6 week first run if memory serves correctly. Zootopia ran for 12 weeks telling me the second run is also 6 weeks (Sicario is the only film I could find in excess of that this year but it finished at 2 screens on week 16 so I don't know if that should count).

So if it finishes the weekend at 60-62.5M and we predict that in the next 5 weeks Shin Godzilla makes 2-2.5m a week avg it lands $70-75 M that is a range of 5 to 5.172M attending. So while it's unlikely to surpass Monster Zero at that level I'm curious as to when it breaks the top 100. I know some people find this stuff irritating but as an engineer I somehow enjoy celebrating stats and have a hard time keeping my mind off it. I guess after seeing the premiere a month from tomorrow the discussion will change but I'm still avoiding spoilers for now which leaves this as the most interesting topic of discussion to me (eveeryone is wired a bit different).
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:43 pm

^ I enjoyed your celebration of stats, so by all means celebrate away!
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Rody » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:22 pm

Cultural Critic Hiroki Azuma: Shin Godzilla, your name. Signify End of an Age

Hiroki Azuma wrote:"That special otaku aimlessness and hopelessness [has] vanished entirely"


This is a pretty interesting opinion. I wonder how the "otaku landscape" may change in the near future if so?
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Gman2887 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:08 am

Shin Godzilla dropped to #4 at the box office this weekend, making $2.1 million and is up to $63.6 million USD. It should top Finding Dory's gross this week and surpass Zootopia's before the end of its run. Its current 4.5 million in attendance has pushed it to 88th all-time, most attended film in Japan.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:26 pm

Gman2887 wrote:Its current 4.5 million in attendance has pushed it to 88th all-time, most attended film in Japan.


It's not quite there yet but it is on track to eventually get there. Monster Zero is currently the 89th all-time most-attended film in Japan with 5.13m tickets sold.

    12.55 million - King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962) #12 All-Time
    09.60 million - Godzilla (1954) #18 All-Time
    08.34 million - Godzilla Raids Again (1955) #25 All-Time
    07.20 million - Mothra vs. Godzilla (1964) #39 All-Time
    05.41 million - Ghidorah the Three-Headed Monster (1964) #83 All-Time
    05.13 million - Monster Zero (1965) #89 All-Time
    04.50 million - Shin Godzilla (2016)
    04.21 million - Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (1966)
    04.20 million - Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Gman2887 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:57 pm

^Yup your right. It was reported as such, but the numbers aren't quite matching up. I wonder if it was referring to gross instead of attendance. Still, there's a good chance it could at least tie Monster Zero by the end of its run. There's a holiday coming up this week in Japan. Supposedly it will get a boost from that. It should help give us a better idea of its chances.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Gman2887 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:55 pm

Ah, found where the number came from. Shin Godzilla is #88 all time in gross: http://www.kogyotsushin.com/archives/alltime/
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby klen7 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:23 am

Funimation sent out a fun promotional email

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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby angilas » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:23 am

lhb412 wrote:^ I enjoyed your celebration of stats, so by all means celebrate away!

:mrgreen:
Thanks for the license to stat. Now it seems I've found the stats almost everyone is using come from corpse on boxofficetheory who notes we're finishing the weekend at about $67 million meaning we've passed finding dory.
http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic ... /?page=637
Unfortunately we're still in 3rd place for the year since Kimi No Na.Wa (your name) went on to pass $80M or 10M more than Zootopia and seems like a runaway freight train.
Still corpse says we're likely to break $75M before the end of the run, given the holidays Monday and Thursday:

It'll comfortably exceed $70 million. It'll make around $1.5 million this weekend for a total around $67 million, and has two holidays coming up on Monday and Thursday, so it should be at $69 million, or even $70 million, before next weekend begins I'd say. It'll likely finish between $75-78 million or so.


Speaking of which I think this is the top 100 more attended (or at least the ones over 5 million from 2015 and before). Ignoring Kimi No, Shin Godzilla probably breaks into the top 90 the moment it passes $70m USD , and at the rate it's been going plus next weeks holidays that'll probably be next weekend (just my personal speculation):
http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopi ... ilit=japan

Based on our earlier calculations of 14.33 or so to 1 USD to attendance it surpasses Astro monster after $74M and Ghidorah after $78M (if it can get that high). basically corpses range of projections have us set to be in the top 5-6 most attended Godzilla films of all time in japan, well within the golden age realm.

Speaking of which and more nerding out on stats I noticed many look at King Kong v Godzilla as the most successful Godzilla film of all time, and they'd be right. But the most successful year for Godzilla is actually 1964 with 7.2M for Mothra vs Godzilla and 5.41 for Ghidorah the three headed monster, barely combining to surpass KkvG's 12.55M (assuming these stats don't include rerelease) and the number 11 films 12.6M. Also of note is at the time of release KKvG was the second highest attended film in Japan of all time and it remained in the top 3 from 1965 until 1997. It is now #12 however. (Nerd stat rampage end).
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby Gman2887 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:52 pm

$68.5 million after Monday (a Holiday) and an attendance of 4.87 million. Holding strong and pretty much expected to surpass Monster Zero's attendance now. It is the 77th all-time highest grossing film in Japan.
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby angilas » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:26 pm

That's awesome. Apparently it's expected to be the second highest grossing live action japanese film since Rookies in 2009 at Y8.55B (after The Eternal Zero at Y8.76B), it's just got to pass the last two of the Umizura Trilogy at Y7.33B and Y8.04B respectively and Bayside 3 at Y7.31B. It's already passed Y7B or $67.6M USD and expected to make > 8 billion yen or over $77.3M USD (though I'm not sure those conversions are up to date). It's got a shot at the top 60 highest grossing japanese films of all time (my money is on 62 though since the force awakens and your name have to be added to the list for this year, and this is the 62nd anniversary year).

It will break 5 million attended once it reaches a gross around $72.87M USD (weekend 9?)
It looks like it will break M.Z.'s attendance record when it hits $74.77M USD (weekend 10?)
It looks like it can break Ghidorah's attendance record if it hits $78.85M USD (weekend 12? or the end of it's run but that's pushing it...)
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Re: Shin Godzilla NON-SPOILER news and info

Postby lhb412 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:23 pm

Gman2887 wrote:$68.5 million after Monday (a Holiday) and an attendance of 4.87 million. Holding strong and pretty much expected to surpass Monster Zero's attendance now. It is the 77th all-time highest grossing film in Japan.


So, we're probably gonna end up between Monster Zero and Ghidorah, eh?

I still can't get over how astounding this movie's success is. Toho must be thrilled, as it's seems like (with the accompanying Hollywood version) they've finally executed their ideal plan for Godzilla as global and domestic phenomenon.
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