Monster Zero x SciFi Japan - Archive Only

I am earnestly excited based on the fact that I LOVED the two Attack on Titan movies, I love the design, and the trailer legitimately wowed me. The hints at behind-the-scenes drama is troubling, as are the problems with the giant prop, but the fact that the CG in the trailer fooled me is great. I know that Anno had to be talked into being the director, so there is probably a lot of tension, but making movies under soul-crushing stress seems normal for him. I don't see this like Final Wars, where there was just a complete lack of respect and apathy for the franchise and for the studio. Lots of films have drama behind-the-scenes.

PS I love AoT P1 and P2 because of the Tokusatsu romp that it was but if I had to be completely honest if it wasn't for that element I'd say to hell with the movie.

It just bothers me that Anno and Higuchi get their stab at the iconic monster and it appears the works have been "mucked up" by Toho.

I assume the trailer was lack luster just like the AoT trailers didn't show dick until the 2nd or 3rd trailers.

Well aside from the problems with the effects and having to resort to using CG because their main puppets failed all of its effects tests, Toho were also unhappy with the human portions of the film and script and had to go over budget for reshoots. They had to do a lot to get this movie in on time and it seems like some of they quality of the movie may have suffered. I don't think Toho is necessarily to blame. The technicians couldn't get their puppets working and Toho weren't happy with some things and wanted reshoots. also whether or not that was for better or worse will be something we have to wait and find out. However, I get the feeling Higuchi and Anno probably didn't have all the tools and resources and time that they may have hoped for. I can't necessarily blame Toho for wanting their movie out on time, but there's also something to say for your props failing two FX tests.

Problems or no, This thing still feels as though its had more time/effort put into it than any Godzilla film Toho has done since....um...forever?

Honda and crew had the effort but not the time. So I'm still excited.

On the flip side, Mad Max Fury Road overcame a troubled Production and lackluster screen tests to show up on a number of top 10 lists for the year.

I might have had a slight reflex when saying Toho was messing with things because the puppet fiasco has nothing to do with them.

I badly want to see these bombed puppet tests just out of curiosity or at least find out what did not work about them.

*ps I bet Anno really wishes he didn't accept the job.

Very similar to the Colossal Titan -

But how much was it used, I wonder? There are a few closeups that appear to be a physical prop in the various clips we've seen.

... you know, I have a theory: one of the reasons the original Jurassic Park's dinosaurs are so effective is not only because of the physical animatronics and suits, but because of how well those elements and the CGI are mixed together. When you're subjected to the same type of effect over and over again you begin to catch on to it, but when you vary between the effects it confuses the eye and mixes up the part of your brain trying to deduce the 'trick.'

Nice!

Yeah, I do wonder if they were able to salvage the puppet for a few shots?

This was close-up posted in one of the other threads but I'll throw it here too -


But it's looking like no suit -

Cool stuff

Ed G posted on FB that the animatronic puppet was not used for the film - something we already knew, but this would be another source stating it.

FYI to anyone hotlinking Twitter images: they don't display at all for people who don't use Twitter, at least they don't for me. If you're seeing the images in your own posts it's probably because your browser still has them cached after viewing them on Twitter. This is how the above post looks on my computer's Firefox browser, and this is how Twitter-linked images always look on this message board to me:



^ I uploaded that image with , a website which becomes as bearable as it was ten years ago if you use .


Those photos are really cool though. That looks like the prop we saw in the leaked images in late 2015 and early 2016. That August 23, 2015 watermark suggests this is footage of the screen tests they did with this prop before they decided to only use CGI for Godzilla.