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Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby XvGojira » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:49 pm

http://yukan-news.ameba.jp/20141013-26484/

Rough Translation wrote:TOHO's "GODZILLA Council Strategy" Project In Establishing an Aim and Direction for the Future of the Godzilla Franchise.

Toho has created and launched a professional project recently, Goji-Kon, while no in-depth specifics regarding this project have been entirely revealed. The general purpose and aim of the project is to decide the direction of the Godzilla Franchise for the near future. The description of its various goals and entire aim will be revealed at a later date.

With Gareth Edwards GODZILLA being a successful hit worldwide and within Japan, and having revived Toho's legendary icon back into the world, Toho wants to focus on what to do with Godzilla, for the near future and for the present generation. Nothing new for Godzilla has been produced in Japan for nearly 10 years, the last works being FINAL WARS. That is not to say Japan won't make more movies, but for now, fans can enjoy the reality that Godzilla is back, with a huge sequel on the way. Aiming at 61 years and onward, Toho's project is certainly huge, more will be revealed when ready.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby daikaijusaurus » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:38 pm

Well this certainly sounds like good news for the future of Godzilla in Japan, whatever Toho decides that will be. I don't want to see Toho do any live action Godzilla films, I'd rather see Legendary take the reigns on that. But I would love for Toho to do a Godzilla animated film series. One animated film every year or two would be great, enough to keep us busy until Godzilla 2 in 2018 :)
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby walshiam » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:44 pm

It's good to know that Toho is being proactive and doesn't intend to let Godzilla just fade away into the sunset so to speak. As long as the projects are varied, fresh and creative, overkill shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure they could benefit from a little insight into the Ultraman franchise and how Tsuburaya Productions have kept the ball rolling.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby XvGojira » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:03 pm

This was my reply from the post on it on reddit.

Sounds like a great idea. It's good to see Toho try and care about their beloved character and NOT making decisions without knowing what to do with the character.

Now this sounds like more than setting up the films, but more of a wider "What else can we do with this property?"

First off, straighten out the Return of Godzilla license sort out and release a bluray. It'd be nice to have the other movies come out on bluray as well, but I'm not sure if studios can really pressure companies to release their movies.
Resend the "No Extras" on new Bluray/DVDs policy. Yeah, Media Blasters screwed up on the first DAM release but that's because they're Media Blasters. They wouldn't be Media Blasters if there weren't screw ups and several delays. I want my Ed G. Biollante commentary damnit!

Godzilla on TV. Anime, Western Animated Show, Tokusatsu, something.

More toys, or at least a wider release and bigger presence . And not just Bandai Creations figures, as nice as they are. Maybe have Tamashii Nations produce more figures and release them wider in the West, since we buy more than in Japan. Bandai and NECA are in the perfect spot to make a line of Godzilla toys and accessories to rival what Trendmasters gave us in the 90's. Although it might mean Toho might have to make deals or discounts on licensing the other kaiju.

More and wider release of official clothing. And please not just black shirts with an image, I want a more colorful wardrobe. I'd love to see a Godzilla costume hoodie that's of equal quality of the Super Hero hoodies I see every where (ie good material, pockets, and spikes are more than just pieces of fabric).

What I'd love to see is something like a touring Godzilla Encounter/History of Godzilla Exhibit. Props, suits, and memorabilia.

Pie in the sky, a Godzilla the Ride at Universal theme park.

But I might be reading a bit more into it than there is. But I guess we'll know more in November.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby lhb412 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:02 pm

Exciting! I wonder just what'll come of this.

I think they'll leave the movies to Legendary, but there's so many other venues Godzilla could be put in with a little imagination.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:21 am

I keep thinking of G-Fest 2013 when there was talk of somehow getting Legendary Beast Wolfman v.s. Godzilla released. That'd be cool.
I know Toho doesn't think much of it, but television would be an interesting venue. Animated or otherwise.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby kiryugoji04 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:08 pm

I'm not saying they need to make more Japanese, tokusatsu-style movies.

I am saying that I wouldn't complain in the least.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Hybrid Gojira » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:23 pm

Discussing the future of Godzilla seems like a good thing. Until something more concrete emerges, I guess all we can do is wait.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Jorzilla » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:03 pm

I am not ready to abandon Godzilla movies to Hollywood overlords. If we can see some more classic Godzilla that's good in my book. A Japanese person (with a Japanese perspective) with a passion for the franchise is invariably going to make a different movie than a Westerner. This is a conflict that has gone back to Saperstein's days with his push to heroize Godzilla.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby kiryugoji04 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:26 pm

LET KIYOTAKA TAGUCHI DIRECT A GODZILLA FILM. DO IT, TOHO.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Gwangi » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:03 pm

XvGojira wrote:Now this sounds like more than setting up the films, but more of a wider "What else can we do with this property?"


Let's just hope they won't go to the Lucas route and re-release some of their Showa films with brand new CGI! :shock:
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby walshiam » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:06 pm

Jorzilla wrote:I am not ready to abandon Godzilla movies to Hollywood overlords. If we can see some more classic Godzilla that's good in my book. A Japanese person (with a Japanese perspective) with a passion for the franchise is invariably going to make a different movie than a Westerner. This is a conflict that has gone back to Saperstein's days with his push to heroize Godzilla.


That wasn't Saperstein's doing.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Jorzilla » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:53 pm

walshiam wrote:
Jorzilla wrote:I am not ready to abandon Godzilla movies to Hollywood overlords. If we can see some more classic Godzilla that's good in my book. A Japanese person (with a Japanese perspective) with a passion for the franchise is invariably going to make a different movie than a Westerner. This is a conflict that has gone back to Saperstein's days with his push to heroize Godzilla.


That wasn't Saperstein's doing.

In Japan's favorite Mon-Star, Steve Ryfle has a reprinted interview (originally published in G-Fan) with Saperstein when he was still alive where he flat out says he pressured Toho into making Godzilla more of a hero. I don't know if he was SUCCESSFUL or if it was already trending that way, but I just wanted to highlight the similarity between Thomas Tull and Henry Saperstein that both approached Godzilla from a heroic perspective.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby daikaijusaurus » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:18 pm

Gwangi wrote:Let's just hope they won't go to the Lucas route and re-release some of their Showa films with brand new CGI! :shock:


I doubt something like this will happen. I think Toho has too much pride in their Tokusatsu tradition to add any brand new CGI effects like Lucas did.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Mac » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:43 pm

Hopefully this initiative will lead to new, original Godzilla films by Japan's brightest and upcoming film-makers, who (hopefully) respect the traditional tokusatsu effect-styles.

Leave Legendary to regurgitate the same old stories starring Mothra and King Ghidorah with their lame-o CGI.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Cookie » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:05 pm

I'd be down with anime style G films if they went that route. Hopefully good stuff comes from this.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Gwangi » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:47 am

I always wondered had that Toho-Indonesian film that Tomoyuki Tanaka was negotiating did indeed come to fruition. Would we have had Godzilla? And with no Godzilla, that would certainly alter a lot of things. I would not mind seeing this Goji-Kon do some sort of film or a short film at least on that subject – an alternate universe where there is no Godzilla and the many people who worked on them, due not factor in our lives. Tsuburaya would be stuck doing war pictures. And hardly no notoriety for Honda except working on some Kursoawa films. But hey, we would still have that Toho-Indonesian movie! :shock: Perhaps not a fascinating subject to some, but would certainly capture my interest.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby daikaijusaurus » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:09 pm

Cookson wrote:I'd be down with anime style G films if they went that route. Hopefully good stuff comes from this.


This is something that I've wanted for a very long time. A Toho Godzilla animated TV series or even an animated film series would be the ultimate playground for Godzilla. There would no longer be budget constraints, so there would be endless possibilities for stories and monsters.

IDW is doing an excellent job with Godzilla Rulers of the Earth. Imagine what that would be like animated! If Toho went this rout, I think it would be the best decision they could make for the future of Godzilla in Japan. An animated series wouldn't be that much of a risk, and if it catches on there would be endless possibilities for toys and other merchandise.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed :D
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby walshiam » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:27 pm

I'm not a fan of the animation idea unless there's something exceptional about the animation. That goes for CG animation as well.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby kiryugoji04 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:07 pm

I'm only interested in anime if someone insane got ahold of it, like Imaishi or Tsurumaki. Anything else would probably be boring.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Mac » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:04 pm

kiryugoji04 wrote: Tsurumaki



Ugh, hell no. Satoshi Kon or screw anime.


EDIT: Nevermind, I forgot he passed. Screw anime.
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Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:34 pm

kiryugoji04 wrote:I'm only interested in anime if someone insane got ahold of it, like Imaishi or Tsurumaki. Anything else would probably be boring.


Imaishi would be crazy, and knowing his style he'd totally want to use characters like Gigan, Kiryu, and Rodan. It'd work to their benefit.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby Psycho Soldier » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:11 pm

It'd be interesting to do an anthology film - something like Heavy Metal or ABCs of Death, except better. You could have multiple directors utilizing various techniques (tokusatsu, 2D animation, CGI, etc.) to their hearts' content. The stories would be rather condensed, but considering how overlong the movies have been since '91, that could work to the project's benefit.

My biggest worry for Gojikon is that Toho will keep playing it safe, that this is sound and fury signifying nothing. I think it's time to experiment with the franchise as much as possible, or at least expand its outreach somehow. I hope Toho thinks so, too, but I'm not certain that they do. Guess we'll find out.
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby mr.negativity » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:08 am

XvGojira wrote:http://yukan-news.ameba.jp/20141013-26484/

Rough Translation wrote:TOHO's "GODZILLA Council Strategy" Project In Establishing an Aim and Direction for the Future of the Godzilla Franchise.

Aiming at 61 years and onward

So is it crazy to think that TOHO could have a new movie in theaters next November?
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Re: Toho Launches Gojikon (Godzilla Strategy Council)

Postby daikaijusaurus » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:35 am

mr.negativity wrote:So is it crazy to think that TOHO could have a new movie in theaters next November?


If Toho is planning on making new movies I sure hope it won't be releases next year. I think rushing a yearly movie is a mistake, the movie crew suffers from the pressure of getting the movie out on time, and the movie itself suffers from being rushed and half baked. If Toho is considering new movies it should be every two years. This way we will get a better quality movie and the public won't get burned out from both the Toho and Legendary movies. I think this is why for years Japan lost interest in kaiju because there was a over saturation of kaiju movies, TV shows, etc.

If Toho is doing movies I think they are making a mistake. Legendary is doing a good job with that, let them continue to do so and concentrate on other possibilities like animation, video games, comics, toys, etc.
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