Composers for the Next Era

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Postby Tyler E. Martin » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:45 pm

After hearing Michael Giacchino's fantastic overture for "Cloverfield," which has several allusions to Ifukube's unmistakable style, I think he would be among the best choices to score a Godzilla picture. Nearly all of his work that I've heard helps give the films a wonderful atmosphere and I have no doubt that an attempt by him to tackle a Godzilla movie would be a triumph.
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Postby The Dark Uniter » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:33 pm

How about Danny Elfman or John Williams?
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Postby heroforhirerob » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:26 am

The Dark Uniter wrote:How about Danny Elfman or John Williams?


UGH! Absolutely not. Neither man's style is appropriate for kaiju pictures.
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Postby zekend01 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:42 am

John Williams might surprise you on that one.
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Postby ryuuseipro » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:20 pm

heroforhirerob wrote:
The Dark Uniter wrote:How about Danny Elfman or John Williams?


UGH! Absolutely not. Neither man's style is appropriate for kaiju pictures.


Also, no disrespect intended to both composers, but they're old and used, or just better suited to certain projects (like Elfman with Tim Burton's films). Plus, they are the most imitated composers ever nowadays (I'm fed up with the pseudo-Danny Elfman music heard in trailers and the like). It's time to let them go and search for new blood.

My choice is Michael Giacchino, who is a fresh new talent. If his "Roar!" theme for Cloverfield is any indication, he'd be the best choice for a Godzilla film composer.
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Postby Gamzilla » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:47 pm

omar rodriguez-lopez


obviously, IMO
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Postby DannyBeane » Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:34 am

I miss sound tracks from adventure films of the 50s and 60s. I'd try and find someone that can imitate that style.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Gman2887 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:14 pm



Or Hiroyuki Sawano:

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All this advertised, I think my hopes of Sawano doing the music is a pipedream. Seeing as both Anno and Higuchi have worked with Sagisu, I'm 70% sure he's a shoe-in for the new Godzilla-- Which I'm fine with, if it happens.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby walshiam » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:40 pm

Nothing here fits.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Gman2887 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:54 pm

I don't think directly "fitting" is the point. A lot people took Desplat's score from Zero Dark Thirty as a sign that he'd be a great fit for Godzilla, but I had my doubts since the musical selections from Zero Dark Thirty were pretty boring and had no hook. Turns out Desplat's score divided more people than the actual movie. I like it okay, but only on a curve.

The above composers go bigger in scope, composing epic, sweeping motifs. Sawano in particular does some great work with drums in the two pieces I posted-- Which was a staple of Oshima's Godzilla theme. I doubt had people really had the access to Oshima's anime scores that fans would say her past work "fit" Godzilla, but she was certainly more than capable. The same goes for Sawano and Sagisu.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby jellydonut25 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:03 pm

Oshima's scores are great stuff.

Desplat's score is one of the worst.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby The Shadow » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:42 am

Years ago when Inuyasha was first running on Toonami, and it struck me that some of the series' music reminded me of Akira Ifukube's work. Unfortunately at the time I did not look further into who the composer was; until today.

So, a quick search brings up Kaoru Wada, and imagine my surprise when the beginning of the Wikipedia article mentions that Wada was an apprentice of Akira Ifukube. I don't think I've seen anything else Wada has composed for besides Samurai 7 and Casshern Sins (and some work on Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, though it appears he wasn't the primary composer on the games).

Wada has a long list of credits check them out on the Wiki article on him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaoru_Wada

Edit: dug up some Youtube videos for listening.

From Inuyasha, Sesshomaru's theme (this may have been the one that made me think of Ifukube's work)

https://youtu.be/qshbykNzjJ4


From Inuyasha

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From D.Gray-man

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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Henry88 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:11 pm

David Arnold
Michael Giacchino
Craig Armstrong
Hans Zimmer
Steve Jablonsky
Alan Silvestri
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby XvGojira » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:26 pm

Henry88 wrote:David Arnold
Michael Giacchino
Craig Armstrong
Hans Zimmer
Steve Jablonsky
Alan Silvestri


I'd assume a Japanese production would stick with Japanese talent.

Unless were talking about LegendGoji 2, which if that's the case Giacchino all the way. Arnold had his shot and made one of the few really good things about that movie. Armstrong is good but I only know him from The Incredible Hulk so I don't know much about the breadth of his work. Zimmer is Zimmer. At times he's great but for the most part it's all very very very similar. Jablonski is a disciple of Zimmer. And Silvestri hasn't done anything with a good theme since The Mummy Returns. Yeah he did Cap and Avengers, but musically I couldn't tell them apart from his work on GI Joe.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Henry88 » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:29 pm

Unless were talking about LegendGoji 2


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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Hybrid Gojira » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:12 am

Kow Otani (who scored the Gamera trilogy and GMK) is a solid choice. I find his music to be memorable and catchy, especially his work in the Gamera films. I don't love his Godzilla stuff, but he does manage to convey the huge sense of scale that you need for a Godzilla film.

I don't want to see composers like Hattori (GvsSG and G2K) or Oshima. Hattori's work is sleep inducing in Space Godzilla and I found the score in G2K overly bland. Oshima's work is not bad per se, I just want something different. Her themes weren't particularly moving the way I feel Otani's are.

Other suggestions? I'm out. Most of my exposure to thematic music would be from anime, but that is a different medium...although I do love the score from Big O. Toshihiko Sahashi's work in that show is great.

Listen to this one from about 30 seconds in -

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Or this one -

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I'm not sure how they would translate to Godzilla, but I dig the music in Big O.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby XvGojira » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:09 am

After the hype died down, I'm disappointed in Otani's GMK score. With what he did with Gamera, and later Shadow of the Colossus, I feel like GMK either was a rush job or an experiment. It's just the same themes repeated over and over and over with little variance. When I was constantly listening to the scores, I could nearly pick out what every track was after a brief moment except for most of GMK.

I'd love for Otani to come back and do something closer to his other great orchestral works. I doubt it, but I'd like it.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Rody » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:08 pm

Shiro Sagisu is my dream choice. He has done excellent work for the Evangelion franchise; several of the themes from the original series, like Angel Attack and Decisive Battle, sound tailor-made for a tokusatsu show, and his scores for EoE and the Rebuild films are truly EPIC.

Kaoru Wada is a name I'd never heard of until maybe last week, when I was on TK; but I've quickly become a fan. The fact that Wada studied under Akira Ifukube himself almost makes him a no-brainer for a choice, and listening to his orchestral work only solidifies it:
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby daikaijusaurus » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:16 pm

My first choice would definitely be Reijiro Koroku. He did an amazing job on Godzilla 1985 and always thought it was a pity that Toho never brought him back.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby kiryugoji04 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:57 pm

Riichiro Manabe is still alive, right? :D
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby franzilla » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:36 pm

I can't believe that no one has mentioned Ramin Djawadi. Capable of composing epic themes, and he's got kaiju street cred after Pacific Rim.

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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Gman2887 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:31 am

Rody wrote:Shiro Sagisu is my dream choice.


I really, really believe your dream is going to come true with both Anno and Higuchi having worked with him.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby Rody » Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:44 am

franzilla wrote:I can't believe that no one has mentioned Ramin Djawadi. Capable of composing epic themes, and he's got kaiju street cred after Pacific Rim.

Most of us are probably thinking of Toho's upcoming film, so Japanese composers are more likely. Frankly, though, I'm not interested in Djawaldi scoring a Godzilla movie anyway. His work for Pacific Rim was good, but I didn't think it was great; and certainly not up to the caliber of Ifukube, Masaru Sato, Reijiro Koroku, or Kow Otani.
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Re: Composers for the Next Era

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:55 am

This is seriously one of the most badass kaiju movie themes I've heard in years. Certainly better than anything during the millennium era.
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