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Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby MouthForWar » Thu May 22, 2014 3:53 pm

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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby planetxleader » Thu May 22, 2014 3:59 pm

Now this looks interesting....
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby klen7 » Thu May 22, 2014 4:14 pm

i have to wonder if this is a "oh yeh, well we thought it of it first" response to IDW announcing Cataclysm.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby planetxleader » Thu May 22, 2014 4:31 pm

Meh, I'm not really that blown away. I did like where they were going, though (I still think the Battra switcheroo was brilliant).
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:09 am

planetxleader wrote:Meh, I'm not really that blown away. I did like where they were going, though (I still think the Battra switcheroo was brilliant).


And the Battra thing wasn't even Powell/Marsh's "brilliant" idea (Brilliant and Powell/Marsh should never be used in the same sentence)...they intended the French girls to be the shobijin for Mothra, but TOHO balked (thank God in this case), and it was either Mowry/Curnow who suggested Battra in the role instead.

Also, I find this article and the whole "Our original vision was going to be sooo awesome! But it was just too dark and gritty for TOHO to handle, so we walked away" angle to be complete revisionist history BS on the part of Powell and KOM fans. The series had no cohesive storyline or semblance of plot (one of the most poorly written comics I've ever come across), full of the author's forced, heavy-handed left-wing political beliefs, very unfunny humor, little to no characterization of neither the humans or monsters, very underwhelming to downright awful artwork, etc. etc. etc.....and these are all the reasons it fell flat on its face and didn't go on longer than 12 issues. KOM alienated alot of readers, which is still affecting IDW's sales numbers to this day...but if Powell wants to blame "TOHO" for not letting him realize his "vision", then he is beyond delusional...
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:47 am

I originally found the article insightful but Ebirahsmeg is right....there were bigger problems at hand with their run in the comic. The idea itself of what they wanted to do DOES sound good but the execution was very lackluster.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby klen7 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:28 pm

As someone that defends KoM as "not as bad as people say it is", I can say that this article made me like it less. It made me have flashbacks to Devlin/Emmerich
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:59 am

ebirahsmeg1 wrote:KOM alienated alot of readers, which is still affecting IDW's sales numbers to this day...

Truth. Like me. Haven't bought a single Godzilla comic since somewhere around issue 6-7 of KOM.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby MekaGojira3k » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:12 am

I don't like this because it doesn't address problems inherent in the pacing of the comic.
The other thing is that I've heard a different story about the mothra twins. From what I heard he did want them to be DARK AND EDGY but
Toho nixed that idea.

I prefer reading KOM to the Ongoing, but I still dislike both and they are my least favorite of IDW's output.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby RaymondBurr » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:05 am

jellydonut25 wrote:
ebirahsmeg1 wrote:KOM alienated alot of readers, which is still affecting IDW's sales numbers to this day...

Truth. Like me. Haven't bought a single Godzilla comic since somewhere around issue 6-7 of KOM.


Nice try guys. "Revisionism" is trying to blame Eric Powell for the low sales of Godzilla. I get that you don't like it, that's fine. But, Eric Powell isn't the reason Godzilla comics don't sell. Kingdom of Monsters has sold better than *any* of IDW's subsequent series. Even at it's lowest sales points, it beats all of the "fan favorites". I'm just reporting the actual data here.

That being said, the vision that Powell lays out in his blog post was pretty much what we got in the comic as it was published. So, I don't imagine that the series would have been tremendously different--or suddenly become mind-blowingly awesome--if Powell had been given 100% creative control.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby klen7 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:29 am

I think once the novelty of "GODZILLA COMICS" wore off sales went to their natural number, which is plateaued around 6800 an issue
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:50 am

RaymondBurr wrote:Nice try guys. "Revisionism" is trying to blame Eric Powell for the low sales of Godzilla. I get that you don't like it, that's fine. But, Eric Powell isn't the reason Godzilla comics don't sell. Kingdom of Monsters has sold better than *any* of IDW's subsequent series. Even at it's lowest sales points, it beats all of the "fan favorites". I'm just reporting the actual data here.

Did you think that maybe, just MAYBE it sold really well because it was the first IDW comic, and people were really excited for it, and then the reason subsequent titles haven't sold as well was that KOM sucked and people gave up on Godzilla comics?

Because that's what happened for me. KOM sucked the care out of me and I never bothered with furhter Godzilla titles. Eric Powell turned me away. I blame him.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby Chris Mowry » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:04 am

klen7 wrote:I think once the novelty of "GODZILLA COMICS" wore off sales went to their natural number, which is plateaued around 6800 an issue


This is an accurate statement.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby tbeasley » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:01 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:Because that's what happened for me. KOM sucked the care out of me and I never bothered with furhter Godzilla titles. Eric Powell turned me away. I blame him.


That's a shame then because most of the non-KOM stuff has been pretty good.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:58 pm

Here's a splash page from Eric Powell's next issue of The Goon. It's way better than all his Godzilla stuff combined.

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He just didn't have a handle on this material. I think if he had done it in his usual style, like a MAD Magazine version of Godzilla that was completely cartoony and full of gags, it would've been better.
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby daikaijusaurus » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:17 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:Did you think that maybe, just MAYBE it sold really well because it was the first IDW comic, and people were really excited for it, and then the reason subsequent titles haven't sold as well was that KOM sucked and people gave up on Godzilla comics?

Because that's what happened for me. KOM sucked the care out of me and I never bothered with furhter Godzilla titles. Eric Powell turned me away. I blame him.


That's pretty much what happened to me. I was so excited before KOM came out and when it finally did, I bought the first issue (along with the alternate covers). Then after reading the first issue I was really, really disappointed. "That's it??" I thought. But I just assumed it was the first issue and the other will be much better. Turned out that I was hating the series more and more after each issue and gave up on it after issue 5. I hated the art, the story, and the political crap. I feel that if the story of a comic sucks, the fault lies mainly with the writer, no matter what restrictions the studio forces them with. So I gave up on the IDW Godzilla all together.

Then when Rulers of the Earth came out, I gave it another shot and loved it. No political crap, no terrible humor, just traditional Godzilla stories that I've grown to love. :D

I've never read any of Eric Powell's other stories or comics, and nothing personally against him, but I hope he never goes anywhere near a Godzilla comic ever again!
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Re: Eric Powell- The Godzilla Book We Wanted To Make

Postby Mac » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:07 am

For all this book's faults, I do like the risks it was willing to take. I thought the Battra twist with the French fairies was pretty inspired.
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