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FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:40 pm

*temper your enthusiasm*

Apparently FYE is coming out with an exclusive Blu Ray Steelbook edition of King Kong vs Godzilla on 9/10/19. No details have been released, leading many to believe it will be the same release as the one from Universal back in 2014, just with different packaging, and it very well could be.

I'm not a steelbook fan, but I know there are some collectors out there. www.fye.com
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:08 am

No Jp version no buy.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby TripMasterMunky » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:16 am

Dr Kain wrote:No Jp version no buy.


Same boat. Hopefully we'll get a decent package around once GvKK 2020 comes out, if this isn't it.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Dai » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:55 am

Dr Kain wrote:No Jp version no buy.


I couldn't help but read that in Bob Marley's voice.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Gojira69 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:38 pm

Does anyone know, does FYE tend to post more specs on their releases the closer you get to the release date?
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby lhb412 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:33 am

I imagine this is just a repackage of the same disc that's been available for years. Honestly, I was still thinking about getting it when it was announced because I thought it might feature some cool original art or maybe the original American poster art for that vintage feel, but basically just the previous cover used for the DVD and Blu-ray? Not really interested.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Gojira69 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:33 am

lhb412 wrote:I imagine this is just a repackage of the same disc that's been available for years. Honestly, I was still thinking about getting it when it was announced because I thought it might feature some cool original art or maybe the original American poster art for that vintage feel, but basically just the previous cover used for the DVD and Blu-ray? Not really interested.


The cover art on my Blu-ray disc does not have Japanese characters on it.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:21 pm

While I'm pretty sure that we're only getting the same disc that was released by Universal several years ago, I can't help but think that we're going to get the Japanese print too. I posted this in the Criterion thread but I'll post it here too.

If Criterion's set was indeed the first time we're going to see the Japanese version stateside you'd think they'd want to advertise that in the press release. Keep in mind that his release does predate the Criterion set by about a month so if it does indeed include the Japanese print of the film then it would actually be the first time stateside that we get the Japanese release. While this is me probably just being over analytical of the release I think my theory has grounds to stand on.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Gojira69 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:22 pm

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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby The Shadow » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:33 pm

I do find it curious that there are a few details about this FYE steelbook that suggest it could be more than a simple re-release of the current disc.

The cover art for this steelbook release reduces the size of the English title by half (or even a little more) from the previous DVD and blu-ray. On the steelbook the English title is not any more prominent than the Japanese title, both titles tend to catch the eye easily.

It likely means nothing at all, but I was checking out Universal's home video site last night ( http://www.uphe.com ) to see if they had any information online about the steelbook (nothing there unfortunately). But when you search for KKvG, then select "Blu-Ray" under BUY and then "F.Y.E." as the retailer it takes you to the steelbook release even though FYE does have the current blu-ray release available.

Also, why no steelbook for King kong Escapes? Previously Universal released KKvG and KKE at the same time, but now only KKvG is getting the steelbook treatment. We know Criterion has rights for Rodan and War of the Gargantuas, IF Criterion is prepping a second Toho Showa toku set it is assumed Rodan and WotG will be in it and KKE is a strong likelihood as well. If Criterion picked up KKE as well, Universal may have already secured Toho's original audio for the movie and intends to include it on a future KKE release of their own.

Criterion would have needed to license KKvG from Universal even when securing a copy of the original cut of the movie from Toho. It's possible that the licensing deal left Universal as the owner of the KKvG master Criterion received from Toho; or maybe Universal received a copy of the masters from Criterion or Universal potentially decided to get a copy direct from Toho themselves.

There's enough different surrounding this steelbook to make me wonder, and even a mite hopeful we'll see something new from Universal.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby canofhumdingers » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:22 pm

I think you guys are thinking WAY too hard about this one...
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby O.Supreme » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:57 pm

Well I decided to reach out to FYE directly and got this response:

Hello O.Supreme,
Thanks for reaching out. This is only going to be the English version of the movie.
FYE Customer Support


Now I know some of you are thinking "That was obvious", but I've learned never to assume anything, and to find out directly form the source if possible. It didn't cost me but a minute of time to send the initial e-mail. At the very least, that steelbook is false advertising, somewhat like the Kraken BRD covers.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:14 pm

^ Thanks for sharing that. It makes me wonder, if this release isn't about beating Criterion to the punch on the Japanese version, why is it happening now? Why not closer to the theatrical release of Godzilla vs. Kong? And why is this exclusive to FYE of all places?
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Shokara » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:^ Thanks for sharing that. It makes me wonder, if this release isn't about beating Criterion to the punch on the Japanese version, why is it happening now? Why not closer to the theatrical release of Godzilla vs. Kong? And why is this exclusive to FYE of all places?



Honestly, I think it's just to cash in on the home media release of Godzilla, King of the Monsters (2019), just as with their exclusive vinyl record re-release of The Best of Godzilla: 1954 - 1975.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:52 am

O.Supreme wrote: somewhat like the Kraken BRD covers.


Um, please elaborate.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Shokara » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:51 am

Dr Kain wrote:
O.Supreme wrote: somewhat like the Kraken BRD covers.


Um, please elaborate.


I think he means how the Kraken Releasing Blu-ray packaging uses both Toho's international English titles and the American theatrical release titles at the same time. Example: Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster / Ebirah, Horror of the Deep; Godzilla On Monster Island / Godzilla vs. Gigan; etc. I believe he's pointing out his opinion that the Kraken Blu-rays feature false advertising, because by using American release titles on the packaging then by default it promises those versions being featured on said Blu-rays. Personally, I think Kraken simply thought the old American titles were better remembered by American fans that grew up on them. They were probably trying to ensure better American sales through nostalgia by including those titles alongside the international titles that were mandated by Toho, thus having the best of both worlds in Kraken's eyes. Still, let's try to keep on topic with FYE's Steelbook release of King Kong vs. Godzilla, please.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:30 am

Dr Kain wrote:
O.Supreme wrote: somewhat like the Kraken BRD covers.


Um, please elaborate.

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The Title first and foremost on top of the BRD... That is NOT contained in this BRD, the smaller title on the bottom...that IS contained in this BRD.

If similiar to MB's first release of DAM they included the AIP dub as an additional audio track, and just had the credit sequences separated as a bonus feature, I'd be fine with that, but exactly as Shokara said, luring older fans in and giving them a different version of the thing they were expecting...not cool IMHO.

Now all that being said, While I do find all the Toho dubs to be inferior to the AIP ones, some of them are not that bad. It's just about being honest with your product, and yes people can tell the difference I can tell the difference. I knew at the age of 13 when i got my Sandy Frank VHS of Gamera vs Gaos that *something wasn't right*, though I cant call that false advertising, because it was exactly what it said it was on the slip cover, I just didnt know at such a young age that there were different dubs, and some films went by different titles, a harsh lesson to learn so young :wink: . Now if they had put *Return of the Giant Monsters* on the VHS, and I was watching *Gamera vs Gaos* I would have been truly disappointed. All I can say is thank goodness for fan restorations, they have been doing amazing work for years, but its only in the past month I've gained access to them, and they are wonderful.

Benjamin Haines wrote:^ Thanks for sharing that. It makes me wonder, if this release isn't about beating Criterion to the punch on the Japanese version, why is it happening now? Why not closer to the theatrical release of Godzilla vs. Kong? And why is this exclusive to FYE of all places?


All excellent questions, for which I unfortunately have no answers :(
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby The Shadow » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:21 pm

O.Supreme wrote:Well I decided to reach out to FYE directly and got this response:

Hello O.Supreme,
Thanks for reaching out. This is only going to be the English version of the movie.
FYE Customer Support


Now I know some of you are thinking "That was obvious", but I've learned never to assume anything, and to find out directly form the source if possible. It didn't cost me but a minute of time to send the initial e-mail. At the very least, that steelbook is false advertising, somewhat like the Kraken BRD covers.


I wouldn't say the answer from FYE was all that obvious. At a minimum, this steelbook was the first major revision to the KKvG cover art from Universal. Notably, the addition of KKvG's title in Japanese while at the same time de-emphasizing the English title so that the Japanese and English titles are about the same size. The steelbook's cover art is more than a little suggestive of the release including Toho's original version of KKvG.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby O.Supreme » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:43 pm

Oh I agree 100% but there are still some people who always claim to have all the answers.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Heiseigodzilla425 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:45 pm

I picked up the FYE Exclusive King Kong vs. Godzilla steelbook today. To no one's surprise, the disc is EXACTLY the same as the previous 2014 release, even having the same 2014 copyright label on the disc and playing an ad for the now defunct UltraViolet service. When I swapped the 2014 release's disc for the disc from the steelbook, my Xbox picked up right where I had left off from the other disc.

Perhaps interesting is that the steelbook case has a slot for 2 discs, which still makes me wonder if the original intention was to include the Japanese cut as well, and might explain why the Japanese logo is on the steelbook cover. If the plug was pulled pretty late for the Japanese cut, then I would think it would have been way cheaper to print new J-cards than to order new steelbooks. That, or steelbook cases with slots for 2 discs are cheaper.

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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby klen7 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:46 am

Oooooh interesting. That double slot is intriguing
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:56 am

Heiseigodzilla425 wrote:Perhaps interesting is that the steelbook case has a slot for 2 discs, which still makes me wonder if the original intention was to include the Japanese cut as well, and might explain why the Japanese logo is on the steelbook cover. If the plug was pulled pretty late for the Japanese cut, then I would think it would have been way cheaper to print new J-cards than to order new steelbooks. That, or steelbook cases with slots for 2 discs are cheaper.


Thanks for the pics. It's worth noting that the 2-disc steelbook cases that Mill Creek used for Mothra this year are different. They have one disc slot on each side when you open it up, rather than two disc slots on the right side.

I'm still curious about how this release came to be in the first place. Was it initiated by Universal or by FYE? Whoever it was, maybe they got wind of Criterion's plan to include the Japanese version of KKvsG and they wanted to capitalize on fans who would want to just obtain that Criterion disc from third-party sellers instead of buying the whole box set. Maybe they didn't know that Criterion intended to put both cuts of KKvsG on the same disc (along with Godzilla Raids Again), so they might have intended to sell this steelbook to fans who wanted a nice 2-disc case for KKvsG in which to later add the Criterion disc.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Baltan II » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:19 pm

I feel like you guys could be putting way more thought into this than Universal ever did. :lol:
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby XvGojira » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:28 pm

Baltan II wrote:I feel like you guys could be putting way more thought into this than Universal ever did. :lol:


You can say that for just about any release from any company.
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Re: FYE Exclusive Steelbook KK vs G Blu Ray

Postby Gojira69 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:16 pm

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