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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby GFan » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:22 pm

I'm really loving ULTRA Q, the video quality is awesome! My one complaint is that the newly added sound FX are distracting. For $18 this set was an incredible deal!
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:19 pm

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Dr Kain wrote:That's good to know that they can indeed do better remasters, but for now, I'm not going to get all upset over the transfers we are getting from either Mill Creek or Criterion. It would be great if they were better, but it is what it is. It's not like these will be the last time I ever end up buying these movies/series again. There will always be better editions down the line.


The biggest problem with that mindset is that a lot, in fact perhaps the majority, of Blu-ray consumers out there are not die-hard fans. As such, one time is all they're likely to buy something. With that in mind, even IF the folks at Mill Creek were to release a 2.0 version of Ultraman within a year or so that DID HAVE flawlessly cleaned up American dubs and REAMS of extra footage, interviews, and what have you, the fact is that this would be of relative interest for a small group of hardcore fans only - like us. But by and large the rest of the folks who have already picked up this BR set either won't bother buying ANOTHER edition of it... or will do so begrudgingly, upset that they had to purchase something twice to get what they feel should have been included the first time around, which would likely engender negative feelings towards Mill Creek & any future Ultra series releases.


To be fair though, the general Joe Nobody isn't going to care about video quality on their BDs anyway. They're buying BD because they can't get DVDs anymore.

Every anime and Toku release is strictly made for the anime and Toku fan, not the fickle casual viewer. Just like how sports game DVDs/BDs are made for the sports person, not someone who knows next to nothing about sports. Hell, I don't even actually know if they do put super bowls and world series on video anymore, that shows you how I couldn't care less if those things got blipped out of existence.

Anyway, I finished the first disc to Ultraman tonight. I do see what some of you mean by it not being the best it could be by today's HD standards, as it does still look like a 60s series rather than a more modern one like Ultra Q looked, but whatever. It's the best the show currently looks and is still light years better than the DVD, so I'm happy.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:05 am

I watched the first episode of Ultraman tonight myself and my god the quality jumps all over the place and the DNR is pretty bad in some spots. When Tsuburaya gets to doing a 4K release of this I hope they omit some of the DNR they applied because in some scenes in the first episode there's really no detail on characters faces.

I'm still content with the releases and I do understand where people are coming from not liking DNR and such.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:10 am

And see, I think the faces are quite detailed.

The only time I've ever seen DNR go bad is on Predator and Sailor Moon.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:14 am

Dr Kain wrote:And see, I think the faces are quite detailed.

The only time I've ever seen DNR go bad is on Predator and Sailor Moon.


Predator! Gaaaaaghh! Why did you have to bring THAT up?!? Just when I'd almost purged the awful memories of the horrific quality of that release from my brain! :lol:

Yeah, a lot of average consumers aren't particularly looking for toku product, but many folks will spot a box cover like Ultraman's, a show from childhood, whether online or sitting on a store shelf, and they'll exclaim "Hey!!! I remember Ultraman! That was such a cool show. And it's on Blu-ray now!? Really??? How cool is that! Buying this! Whoop!! (Gets set home, unwraps box and throws first disc in... watches a few minutes' worth... and "W.T.F?!?!!!??!? It's all in effing Japanese!?!?!? Who the hell is IDE?!?!?!!? What a ripoff! Eff this CRAP!!!" Rips out disc and either pitches, gives away, donates or tosses on a back shelf - never to be viewed again.

These (who are the masses you would think sellers like Mill Creek should be try to appeal and cater to) will NOT be buying set 2.0 or whatever. Oh sure, you & I (and most members here) will be slavishly buying the damn things through set 45.678b, etc., but the MAJORITY of consumers won't. THAT is what kneecaps the genre's rep, and can gut punch future sales. And thus THAT is also a prime (although not the only) reason I was so pissed and depressed that the American dubs weren't included. :cry:
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:56 am

Jinzo Ningen wrote: (Gets set home, unwraps box and throws first disc in... watches a few minutes' worth... and "W.T.F?!?!!!??!? It's all in effing Japanese!?!?!? Who the hell is IDE?!?!?!!? What a ripoff! Eff this CRAP!!!"


Now who's over reacting? First off, who would buy a Japanese show WITHOUT checking the language listings on the box? Secondly, Best Buy is the only store that physically carries these, so the chances of just coming across them on the store shelf is highly unlikely. Third, in this day and age, the only ones who are going to get upset over the language are baby boomers and most early Gen X'ers.

but the MAJORITY of consumers won't. THAT is what kneecaps the genre's rep, and can gut punch future sales.


You're talking about a group of consumers that think any Toku show is Power Rangers and that it is. They wouldn't be buying Ultraman anyway no matter what. It could offer free blowjobs and they still would think Power Rangers.

Anyway, in case anyone is interested, I've got my review of Ultra Q scheduled to release tonight at 9:30 COlorado time.

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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:24 pm

Dr Kain wrote:And see, I think the faces are quite detailed.

The only time I've ever seen DNR go bad is on Predator and Sailor Moon.


In certain scenes you can make out details but in others the contrast is blasted too high and the faces look waxy.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:20 am

My standard-edition sets arrived this week. The packaging is really nice. The cardboard box is sturdy, the multi-trayed plastic case is a welcome alternative to having stacked discs, and the booklet is glossy and fits snugly in the box. The spines look very cool on the shelf with the big image taking shape across them.

Ultra Q looks absolutely fantastic based on the two episodes I've watched so far.

TPC's added sound effects stick out like a sore thumb in the audio, especially in the "Goro and Goro" episode. The gunshots and urban wreckage sound like the cheap sound effects I've heard recycled in TV shows since the '90s. It doesn't ruin the show but it's annoying.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:32 am

Dr Kain wrote:
Jinzo Ningen wrote: (Gets set home, unwraps box and throws first disc in... watches a few minutes' worth... and "W.T.F?!?!!!??!? It's all in effing Japanese!?!?!? Who the hell is IDE?!?!?!!? What a ripoff! Eff this CRAP!!!"


Now who's over reacting? First off, who would buy a Japanese show WITHOUT checking the language listings on the box? 1) You'd be surprised. Yes, that doesn't mean they're not stupid for not checking features first, but it happens all the time. Secondly, Best Buy is the only store that physically carries these, so the chances of just coming across them on the store shelf is highly unlikely. Third, in this day and age, the only ones who are going to get upset over the language are baby boomers and most early Gen X'ers. 2) That's MY generation, the ones who fondly remember the show when it first ran in syndication, ALL OVER the country, for almost 30 YEARS. As old farts age, they desperately cling to (and thus will snap up) most anything that sparks warm memories of our fading youth. And thus it's THESE people that the companies marketing these shows should be catering to every bit as hard as the small base of toku fans. There are a wealth of missed sales lost if they don't. And that's no one's fault but the video companies who license, manufacture and sell them.

but the MAJORITY of consumers won't. THAT is what kneecaps the genre's rep, and can gut punch future sales.


You're talking about a group of consumers that think any Toku show is Power Rangers and that it is. They wouldn't be buying Ultraman anyway no matter what. It could offer free blowjobs and they still would think Power Rangers. Again, that is entirely the fault of the marketing for these. Proper saturation of ads and so forth can go a long way towards tempting wafflers into purchasing. Giving them more than what they thought they'd get is the way to convert them AND keep them coming back for more. Ignoring them obviously results in no buys and offering disappointing, minimalist product equals no repeat business for future releases. No tricks here, just common business sense. Sadly, a lot of these companies either don't give a crap, have no larger vision, or are too cheap (or too small) to spend the upfront money that results in more money in the long run. :?
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:45 am

The 2000s decade was the heyday of physical media in North America and DVD was the dominant format. When it comes to Baby Boomers and Gen-X'ers reconnecting with the original Ultraman series, the vast majority of them have probably already done so with BCI's 2006 DVD sets or Mill Creek's 2009 or 2013 DVD reissues, all of which included the English dubs.

Heck, those Mill Creek DVDs are still available today for cheap prices! Like most dedicated kaiju fans, I would have preferred to have the English dubbing option on the BRD set, but for casual buyers who haven't thought about Ultraman in decades and want to reconnect with the English-dubbed Japanese superhero they watched as kids in syndication on lo-fi TV sets, Mill Creek's 4-disc complete series DVD set should do the trick.

Otherwise, the target demographic for these and Mill Creek's other upcoming BRD sets are folks like us, people who care enough about this stuff to post on message boards dedicated to kaiju and blu-rays and what not. Companies like Mill Creek or Arrow or Shout!Factory can generally count on folks like us to support physical media releases of niche titles that we care about. There's no reason to expect these shows to appeal to anyone who isn't actively interested in vintage Japanese sci-fi. No amount of advertising or classic English dubbing is going to make a difference there and that's okay. I appreciate Mill Creek for dealing directly with TPC to make these Ultra series available on BRD for folks like us.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:20 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:The 2000s decade was the heyday of physical media in North America and DVD was the dominant format. When it comes to Baby Boomers and Gen-X'ers reconnecting with the original Ultraman series, the vast majority of them have probably already done so with BCI's 2006 DVD sets or Mill Creek's 2009 or 2013 DVD reissues, all of which included the English dubs.

Heck, those Mill Creek DVDs are still available today for cheap prices! Like most dedicated kaiju fans, I would have preferred to have the English dubbing option on the BRD set, but for casual buyers who haven't thought about Ultraman in decades and want to reconnect with the English-dubbed Japanese superhero they watched as kids in syndication on lo-fi TV sets, Mill Creek's 4-disc complete series DVD set should do the trick.

Otherwise, the target demographic for these and Mill Creek's other upcoming BRD sets are folks like us, people who care enough about this stuff to post on message boards dedicated to kaiju and blu-rays and what not. Companies like Mill Creek or Arrow or Shout!Factory can generally count on folks like us to support physical media releases of niche titles that we care about. There's no reason to expect these shows to appeal to anyone who isn't actively interested in vintage Japanese sci-fi. No amount of advertising or classic English dubbing is going to make a difference there and that's okay. I appreciate Mill Creek for dealing directly with TPC to make these Ultra series available on BRD for folks like us.


You said it all a lot nicer than I would have. :P
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:21 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:The 2000s decade was the heyday of physical media in North America and DVD was the dominant format. When it comes to Baby Boomers and Gen-X'ers reconnecting with the original Ultraman series, the vast majority of them have probably already done so with BCI's 2006 DVD sets or Mill Creek's 2009 or 2013 DVD reissues, all of which included the English dubs.

Heck, those Mill Creek DVDs are still available today for cheap prices! Like most dedicated kaiju fans, I would have preferred to have the English dubbing option on the BRD set, but for casual buyers who haven't thought about Ultraman in decades and want to reconnect with the English-dubbed Japanese superhero they watched as kids in syndication on lo-fi TV sets, Mill Creek's 4-disc complete series DVD set should do the trick.

Otherwise, the target demographic for these and Mill Creek's other upcoming BRD sets are folks like us, people who care enough about this stuff to post on message boards dedicated to kaiju and blu-rays and what not. Companies like Mill Creek or Arrow or Shout!Factory can generally count on folks like us to support physical media releases of niche titles that we care about. There's no reason to expect these shows to appeal to anyone who isn't actively interested in vintage Japanese sci-fi. No amount of advertising or classic English dubbing is going to make a difference there and that's okay. I appreciate Mill Creek for dealing directly with TPC to make these Ultra series available on BRD for folks like us.


Please don't get me wrong. I very much appreciate this plethora of Ultra-related series coming to the U.S. as well. I just wish a little more... effort(?) would've gotten put into them (at least the UltraMAN release). Hell, I would've been happy to have proof read ALL of the press material and the subtitles FOR FREE, just so that everything was of highest possible quality (kind of what I do in my day-to-day job). And with regards to the pangs of not having the classic AIP dubs... I suppose I'll just wait for the inevitable fanbase to get around to marrying the video portion of these Blu-rays to the audio track from the older DVDs, thus giving us the best of both worlds. :wink:
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:25 am

I finished Disc 2 today and the only complaint I have is what was pointed out earlier, and that is they are constantly mispelling Monster as Mosnter. It happens twice in the Pestar episode. Very rarely do I have an issue with mispelled words in subtitles, as Bandai couldn't even figure out what Zechs' last name was until the halfway point of the show in Gundam Wing, but the fact that no one bothered to spell check "Monster" is just ridiculous.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby lhb412 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:36 am

^ Noticed someone pointing out in a screenshot that the word 'monster' was in a slightly different font than the rest of the subtitles.

My theory: last minute decision, perhaps a mandate from Tsuburaya, to replace some previous word ("creature?" "lifeform?" "kaiju?") and make "monster" the standardized phrase. A last minute rush would explain the inconsistencies.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby SeaHawk » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:07 am

Or the subs just weren't proofread.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:10 am

I finished Disc 3 today, so now I'm just past the halfway point of the show. YAY!!

I will say the episode with the kids drawing becoming a monster didn't bother me like it did the first time I watched it.

However, I am still a little perplexed by the opening bit of the episode with the return of the Baltans as it starts off with a rocket ship and the JVOTL having a race to see who can get to space first, but they say the SSSP won the race despite it being the rocket that made it into space and not the JVOTL. Then it goes to Not-Serizawa talking about how he lost the race to be more careful. Huh? Your rocket is in space though...

Anyway, I'm enjoying this show just as much as I did the first time two years ago. My next episode is one of the two that had the mistimed subs on the DVD set, so I'm really looking forward to being able to actually watch that one.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby lhb412 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:31 am

SeaHawk wrote:Or the subs just weren't proofread.


Maybe, but inconsistencies clustered around a specific word is suggestive.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:46 am

Yeah, it's a little odd that it is the same word over and over again that gets mispelled.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Baltan II » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:29 pm

Dr Kain wrote:Secondly, Best Buy is the only store that physically carries these, so the chances of just coming across them on the store shelf is highly unlikely.


Literally did just that in one of my local Walmarts, both Ultra Q and Ultraman, alongside a few copies of Mothra. Put a smile on my face.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:40 pm

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Dr Kain wrote:Secondly, Best Buy is the only store that physically carries these, so the chances of just coming across them on the store shelf is highly unlikely.


Literally did just that in one of my local Walmarts, both Ultra Q and Ultraman, alongside a few copies of Mothra. Put a smile on my face.


Your Walmarts actually carry TV shows on Blu-Ray? :shock:

Wait, your Walmarts also carry Mothra? :shock: :shock:

Are your Walmarts located in the Upside Down? :P
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:55 pm

The Walmart I work for didn't get the new Ultra sets but we did get Mothra recently in our "steelbook" section. Its a little overpriced ($17.99) but its still cool to see on the shelf when I walk by. If we do keep that steelbook section I'm sure our next major movie reset we'll get the Ultra stuff in.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:53 am

Dr Kain wrote:Your Walmarts actually carry TV shows on Blu-Ray? :shock:


My local Walmart carries a lot of TV shows on BRD, but I was there earlier today and they didn't have Ultra Q, Ultraman or Mothra.

They did have Shin Godzilla when it was released. Before that I was able to get Sony's first wave of Godzilla BRDs there in 2014, although they didn't carry the second wave.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:51 am

Benjamin Haines wrote:
Dr Kain wrote:Your Walmarts actually carry TV shows on Blu-Ray? :shock:


My local Walmart carries a lot of TV shows on BRD, but I was there earlier today and they didn't have Ultra Q, Ultraman or Mothra.

They did have Shin Godzilla when it was released. Before that I was able to get Sony's first wave of Godzilla BRDs there in 2014, although they didn't carry the second wave.


My Walmarts only carry DVDs of TV shows whether it is a new release or not. Even for anime they tend to only carry the DVD versions. The only BDs they carry are high profile movies like the MCU stuff and the newest released movies.

I've even seen people say their Targets carry the Ultraman BDs, which is shocking as all of my Targets just went through their remodels and cut their movie section down to a single bookshelf styled row with a center piece for the newest movie releases and Disney. They don't even have much BDs either for TV shows as everything is DVD only even if it is a recent series like Flash and Arrow. I just don't get it.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:21 pm

I've definitely seen Mill Creek's Ultraman complete series DVD at Target stores in years past, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had these BRDs now.

There aren't any Target stores near where I live but the nearest Best Buy drastically reduced its physical media section five years ago.
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Re: Ultraman TV and Movie Licensed to Mill Creek for North A

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:57 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:I've definitely seen Mill Creek's Ultraman complete series DVD at Target stores in years past, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had these BRDs now.

There aren't any Target stores near where I live but the nearest Best Buy drastically reduced its physical media section five years ago.


My Best Buy just reduced their movie section to a single two sided row. They extended their Samsung products into what used to be the rest of the movie department. God this is depressing.
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