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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby kpa » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:49 pm

KaiserGhidorah wrote:I believe CM has the rights to the entire Godzilla HB series but opted not to release anything beyond the first season due to poor sales.


Classic Media only licensed the first season from Toho. Sales for the DVDs weren't strong enough for them to go back for the second.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby ultrazilla2000 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:55 am

The HB series doesn't stink, it's actually quite fun and full of nostalgia for those of us products of the 70's! For myself, it was my first major taste of anything Godzilla related, and lead into my love for the film series. I remember when my neighbor friend and I were watching one of the films for the first time, we kept waiting for Godzilla to fire red beams from his eyes. :lol:


Looking forward to the 1998 TV series, I've been wanting to see (OWN) all of them for a long time.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:13 am

I guess it begs the question:
What's more important....looking like Godzilla or sounding like Godzilla?

If your answer is "Lazer eye beams" then the HB series is for you.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby MouthForWar » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:44 pm

The HB Godzilla doesn't really look like Godzilla either :lol:

Anyway, I watched a couple episodes of this on Netflix recently and I still found it quite fun.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:20 pm

If the asshats at Classic Media hadn't been so Godzilladamn greedy, spacing the H-B series' 26 episodes out over what would have been 6 friggin' volumes(!) then they might not have done so poorly! *SIGH* They should have offered the complete series in a compact boxed set for $30 or less. They almost certainly would have sold better as a complete set. Instead, they threw fans under the proverbial bus by SLOWLY releasing a paltry handful of shows at a time, at an overly inflated price. The show is too crude and old school to attract that many new viewers, and fans like myself just kept on waiting and waiting (and WAITING) for the other half of the series or else a box set that, sadly, simply never materialized. Feh! A pox on the boneheads at Classic Media! A pox I say!!! :evil:

While I despise GINO in every way, I understand that the cartoon was more in the spirit of the Toho version. I dunno, I never saw a single episode. Even so, once this has been out for a while, I'll probably pick it up used & cheap on Amazon.

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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby The Shadow » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:24 pm

It was Classic Media rather than Sony who had licensed the Hanna-Barbera Godzilla series.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:59 pm

Jinzo Ningen wrote:If the asshats at Sony hadn't been so Godzilladamn greedy, spacing the H-B series' 26 episodes out over what would have been 6 friggin' volumes(!) then they might not have done so poorly! *SIGH* They should have offered the complete series in a compact boxed set for $30 or less. They almost certainly would have sold better as a complete set. Instead, they threw fans under the proverbial bus by SLOWLY releasing a paltry handful of shows at a time, at an overly inflated price. The show is too crude and old school to attract that many new viewers, and fans like myself just kept on waiting and waiting (and WAITING) for the other half of the series or else a box set that, sadly, simply never materialized. Feh! A pox on the boneheads at Sony! A pox I say!!! :evil:


Classic Media were the ones who released the first season of the Hanna-Barbera Godzilla on DVD, not Sony.


Jinzo Ningen wrote:While I despise GINO in every way, I understand that the cartoon was more in the spirit of the Toho version. I dunno, I never saw a single episode. Even so, once this has been out for a while, I'll probably pick it up used & cheap on Amazon.


It's still best viewed as an independent monster series all its own and not a take on the Godzilla character as we know it, but Sony's Godzilla: The Series is a good show, definitely one of the better TV-Y7-FV cartoons to come out of the '90s and leagues ahead of the film that spawned it. The cast of voice actors is excellent, the art style and animation are both sharp, and many of the original creature creations make for genuinely memorable monsters. Despite being hampered by contemporary standards and practices which compelled the makers to depict death in as soft of terms as possible and make it a point to show a soldier safely parachuting from an exploded tank or aircraft at every opportunity, the series actually dealt with a lot of adult themes and interpersonal relationships that would have gone over the heads of much of the intended audience.

If you have Netflix, the entire series is available to stream on there if you want to check it out before dropping any money. Otherwise, I'd say just go ahead and get this new DVD when it comes out. It's $13 for 40 episodes on four discs; how much cheaper could it possibly get?
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby kpa » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:58 pm

Regarding the old Hanna-Barbera cartoon, Classic Media is a "family entertainment" company whose general focus is on inexpensive releases that parents will buy for their kids, rather than the hardcore fan/collector market. I have the press info for GODZILLA cartoon DVD Vol 3, and it lists 5 episodes of the show for a SRP of $7.93... which is hardly an outrageous price. And I would bet Classic Media's marketing research showed that price range made the DVDs and easier sell with the average mom and dad.

While I would have liked a complete series set, I'm not sure that sales would have justified it. Back in 2006-7, Steve Ryfle and I represented Classic Media at conventions and film festivals. We would do contests with Classic Media DVDs as prizes, and Godzilla fans did not want the cartoon DVDs. Steve and I would laugh because the reactions from fans was the same, over and over. And if these fans didn't want free DVDs I doubt they were going to spend $25-30 on box set of them.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:19 pm

kpa wrote:Regarding the old Hanna-Barbera cartoon, Classic Media is a "family entertainment" company whose general focus is on inexpensive releases that parents will buy for their kids, rather than the hardcore fan/collector market. I have the press info for GODZILLA cartoon DVD Vol 3, and it lists 5 episodes of the show for a SRP of $7.93... which is hardly an outrageous price. And I would bet Classic Media's marketing research showed that price range made the DVDs and easier sell with the average mom and dad.

While I would have liked a complete series set, I'm not sure that sales would have justified it. Back in 2006-7, Steve Ryfle and I represented Classic Media at conventions and film festivals. We would do contests with Classic Media DVDs as prizes, and Godzilla fans did not want the cartoon DVDs. Steve and I would laugh because the reactions from fans was the same, over and over. And if these fans didn't want free DVDs I doubt they were going to spend $25-30 on box set of them.

Interesting tidbits. I probably would like a full set of the series myself, but yeah, it's not something I'm stressing about. I think I've only watched my three dvds twice MAYBE.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby gojira_fan » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:36 pm

I found the HB Godzilla to be a dumb series as a kid and have no desire to revisit it again, even for nostalgia.


I found the newer cartoon to be step up, even from the movie that gave birth to it.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby KaiserGhidorah » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:29 am

kpa wrote:
KaiserGhidorah wrote:I believe CM has the rights to the entire Godzilla HB series but opted not to release anything beyond the first season due to poor sales.


Classic Media only licensed the first season from Toho. Sales for the DVDs weren't strong enough for them to go back for the second.



Ahh....thanks for clearing that up. My mistake.

Jinzo Ningen wrote:While I despise GINO in every way, I understand that the cartoon was more in the spirit of the Toho version. I dunno, I never saw a single episode. Even so, once this has been out for a while, I'll probably pick it up used & cheap on Amazon.


But it's already cheap retailing at 10 bucks for the entire series. I believe that's a pretty good investment.

gojira_fan wrote:I found the HB Godzilla to be a dumb series as a kid and have no desire to revisit it again, even for nostalgia.


I found the newer cartoon to be step up, even from the movie that gave birth to it.


I agree. I watched a couple of episodes of the Hanna Barbara cartoon during the TNT monster bash and wasn't impressed. I didn't feel the need to pick it up when the first couple of dvds were released but I do enjoy the newer cartoon quite a bit more.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:45 am

gojira_fan wrote:I found the newer cartoon to be step up, ESPECIALLY from the movie that gave birth to it.

fixed. :wink:
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby gojira_fan » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:38 pm

That's probably what I meant to type to begin with. :wink:
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby MouthForWar » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:29 am

kpa wrote:Regarding the old Hanna-Barbera cartoon, Classic Media is a "family entertainment" company whose general focus is on inexpensive releases that parents will buy for their kids, rather than the hardcore fan/collector market. I have the press info for GODZILLA cartoon DVD Vol 3, and it lists 5 episodes of the show for a SRP of $7.93... which is hardly an outrageous price. And I would bet Classic Media's marketing research showed that price range made the DVDs and easier sell with the average mom and dad.

While I would have liked a complete series set, I'm not sure that sales would have justified it. Back in 2006-7, Steve Ryfle and I represented Classic Media at conventions and film festivals. We would do contests with Classic Media DVDs as prizes, and Godzilla fans did not want the cartoon DVDs. Steve and I would laugh because the reactions from fans was the same, over and over. And if these fans didn't want free DVDs I doubt they were going to spend $25-30 on box set of them.


I get all that... interesting stuff. However, I think the landscape of these kinds of shows on home video is kind of different now, with tons of smaller labels picking them up and selling "Complete Series" sets for $15 or less. I mean, you can get the entire original He-Man series for extremely cheap these days. I guess a better example would be Mill Creek putting out the Godzilla cartoon.

I could easily see a cheap series set of the HB cartoon somewhere down the line. I feel like cheap sets for smaller shows with the entire series are bound to be bigger sellers than ones with just a few episodes on em.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby H-Man » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:31 am

I think the difference is that Mill Creek licensed Godzilla - The Series from Sony, which was probably less expensive than Classic Media licensing the Hanna-Barbera G from Toho.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby kpa » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:36 pm

MouthForWar wrote:I get all that... interesting stuff. However, I think the landscape of these kinds of shows on home video is kind of different now, with tons of smaller labels picking them up and selling "Complete Series" sets for $15 or less. I mean, you can get the entire original He-Man series for extremely cheap these days. I guess a better example would be Mill Creek putting out the Godzilla cartoon.

I could easily see a cheap series set of the HB cartoon somewhere down the line. I feel like cheap sets for smaller shows with the entire series are bound to be bigger sellers than ones with just a few episodes on em.


I definitely agree that times have changed. My previous comments were directed at Jinzo's criticism of how Classic Media handled the H-B GODZILLA in 2006-07, not how they should treat the series if they were licensing and releasing it now.

I also suspect that Cody is right, and Classic Media would still have to charge a bit more for a H-B GODZILLA set to cover licensing the show from Toho. On the other hand, Mill Creek got GODZILLA: THE SERIES as part of a bulk sub-licensing deal involving hundreds of titles so the per-title expense was probably pretty low.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby MouthForWar » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:09 am

Got mine from Amazon today. Anybody else?

I'm glad to have this. It really is quite a good show for what it is. I think the show holds up really well honestly.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu May 01, 2014 11:44 am

Have this on my Amazon WishList. Have you watched any of the episodes yet, Kyle? Wondering how the overall quality is. Do we know if all the episodes are complete or if some/all may have been possibly trimmed? Guess I cannot complain either way. I see where Amazon has it for a measly $5.55 (thru DeepDiscountDVD) so you can't go wrong for th at price! Looks like I'll be buying a copy for my library when I get home from work tonight.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby MouthForWar » Fri May 02, 2014 3:55 am

The episodes are complete, with full beginning and end credits and the picture quality is just fine.

And the show holds up extremely well, which was a nice surprise since I'm MUCH older than when it first aired.

I highly recommend this set, especially at the price its going for, which is a total steal.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby Cookie » Thu May 08, 2014 8:57 pm

Got this a few days ago and have watched the first 5 so far with my son
Really good cartoon... And the only thing good that came from that 98 film. I honestly don't mind calling this incarnation of the character, Godzilla.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri May 09, 2014 12:34 am

Cookson wrote:The only thing good that came from that 98 film.

Not true. The 98 film also drove up demand for Godzilla and got the Heisei films released here and helped get G2K into theaters
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby Cookie » Fri May 09, 2014 8:37 am

I meant with the incarnation of this version.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri May 09, 2014 12:52 pm

This show is holding up pretty well on a re-watch, actually. Not GREAT, but decent.

If you liked this show the first time around, definitely pick this up. For the price, you can't beat the trip down memory lane, and though baby GINO does get his butt kicked around, this show single-handedly makes the monster and design tolerable, even good. Still not GODZILLA, but a fine monster in his own right.

The PQ is acceptable for something like this and really my only complain is the packaging, with the four discs stacked on on top of the other.

Some cool monster designs, a fun adventure series, this is WELL-WORTH the ten bucks, and it's nice to have it be the COMPLETE series. Mill Creek his becoming one of the better companies out there.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon May 12, 2014 12:56 pm

Man, as I watch more and more of these, I still like it, but I'm totally getting ideas for a drinking game:
-Any time Nick says, "Go! Go! Go!"
-Any time people are surprised that Godzilla is still alive after an earlier defeat
-Any time Monique wants to kill Godzilla
-Any time Randy hits on Monique
-Any time Nick shouts some command that doesn't need to be said, like "Get down!" or "Watch out!" when something is flying at people's heads.
-Any time Nigel gets destroyed.
-Any time Godzilla uses his breath

^These would be for a beer-based game of course...if you were taking shots, some of these happen EVERY SINGLE EPISODE and you'd get TORE UP.
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Re: Godzilla - Complete Animated Series

Postby klen7 » Mon May 12, 2014 2:23 pm

^ I think you got something to put in the Fan Activities section there :)
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