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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:00 pm

Hmmmm... Okay, apparently Matt Frank's been teasing some special project and...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAVp1EXW4AE ... me=900x900

By comparing it to Mill Creek's Ultraman and Criterion's Godzilla sets it seems to indicate a home video release. Redman? Other Toho kaiju? - but, if you look at the replies you'll see a little angry emoji face from artist and Gamera superfan Sophie Campbell, whose work is included in the Criterion Godzilla set. I may be making something out of nothing, but I think that this is something to do with Gamera.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:35 am

lhb412 wrote:Hmmmm... Okay, apparently Matt Frank's been teasing some special project and...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAVp1EXW4AE ... me=900x900

By comparing it to Mill Creek's Ultraman and Criterion's Godzilla sets it seems to indicate a home video release. Redman? Other Toho kaiju? - but, if you look at the replies you'll see a little angry emoji face from artist and Gamera superfan Sophie Campbell, whose work is included in the Criterion Godzilla set. I may be making something out of nothing, but I think that this is something to do with Gamera.

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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:42 am

Ah, sorry. Here we go:

https://mobile.twitter.com/spankzilla85 ... 6930430976

And while I'm here: Arrow is releasing Ring as a single release and as a box set with Rasen, Ring 2, and Ring 0!

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArrowFilmsVi ... 2763005958

I'm interested in the follow-ups, but will probably just go with the original.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:49 pm

I'm guessing it'll be Redman related Matt has been posting a lot of comic stuff related to Redman. Either that or that independent kaiju movie is getting a state side release, I forget the name of it but its the one that has the monster that looks like the loch ness monster I think it has "mist" in the title. I know he did a poster for it which is actually on display in Japan right now.

Getting back on topic boutique label Arrow is doing a release of An American Werewolf in London due out in October. I'll probably pick this up. It uses the same 4K master that Universal used for their reissued BD a few years ago as well as a ton of new special features and every other special feature made before for the DVD/BD releases.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:21 pm

^ That's Howl Beyond the Fog, and I feel that it is unlikely since it was supposed to premiere at G-Fest this year but wasn't finished. From what I read, the director showed footage, apologized the film still wasn't done, and said he'd be back the following year with the complete movie? Something like that.

Matt is still hard at work on his Redman comic (as far as I'm aware) so it makes sense to be posting Redman stuff... I just feel like he's hinting at something different. It's some new project that he can't talk about, why would he complained that with the Redman comic that's already available and well-known?

Redman home video release is a possibility, as is some other (possibly obscure) kaiju release Toho or otherwise, but I just have a feeling it's Gamera. Mill Creek's releases have been out of print for a little while now and are fetching outrageous prices, the Japanese studio now has done far better transfers, and it just feels like interest in kaiju movies is stronger than ever in the West.

- add to that Sophie Campbell posting a few comments about how Matt has got some new project that she really wishes she could have had and add her status as a huge Gamera fan, moreso than Godzilla, and it just feels really plausible for me.

Of course, maybe it's something that's kaiju adjacent that I would never think about!
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Henry88 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:32 pm

now i hope that SF! can get alligator.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Joseph Goodman » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:56 pm

lhb412 wrote: but I just have a feeling it's Gamera. Mill Creek's releases have been out of print for a little while now and are fetching outrageous prices, the Japanese studio now has done far better transfers, and it just feels like interest in kaiju movies is stronger than ever in the West.
- add to that Sophie Campbell posting a few comments about how Matt has got some new project that she really wishes she could have had and add her status as a huge Gamera fan, moreso than Godzilla, and it just feels really plausible for me.


Keith Aiken stated over on Blu-Ray.com that Mothra was selling much better than Mill Creek expected, so maybe they've decided to steelbook Gamera?
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby The Shadow » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:39 pm

New releases of the Showa Gamera movies would be great, especially if we can get Gammera the Invicible this time. The English dubs for the other movies would be welcome too. If MillCreek's Heisei releases could be improved upon, I'd double dip for them as well.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby XvGojira » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:44 pm

The Shadow wrote:New releases of the Showa Gamera movies would be great, especially if we can get Gammera the Invicible this time. The English dubs for the other movies would be welcome too. If MillCreek's Heisei releases could be improved upon, I'd double dip for them as well.


Although with all the brouhaha about Criterion's Godzilla set not including dub, if a Gamera set comes out with dub I'm betting there'll be some sort of implosion in the fandom.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby H-Man » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:05 am

Not trying to bring that discussion over into this thread too, but the Mill Creek Blu-rays of the Showa films didn't have any dubbed versions at all. It's a bit more inane for Gamera since all eight of those are movies for younger kids.

Legend Films is, I think, the company that brought us the nice HD transfer of Gammera that's on Amazon Prime. It would be wonderful to get that on disc but I don't expect it since I don't think that digital release was authorized by Kadokawa.

Didn't Matt do a manga based on the Heisei Gamera's backstory? I bet the trilogy is a better candidate for a steelbook or deluxe edition than the Showa films.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:00 am

^ The were only provided dubs for some of the Showa Gamera films, so they decided to just askew the English dubs for uniformity (those were more like one of their value releases anyway, what with the substandard 1080i versions provided).
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby O.Supreme » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:49 am

Admittedly I only got the Mill Creek Gamera Blu Rays because they were super inexpensive, I would have picked up extras if I knew once they were OOP they'd be worth quite a bit. The S!F DVD are s my go to for watching Showa Gamera. If Mill Creek though released a Blu Ray set that included Gammera The Invincible, and All the dubs, you can bet their would be people shouting from the rooftops declaring Mill Creek their new favorite and rejecting Criterion in an unbelievable turn of events.

Switching gears slightly, I could be wrong, but on the surface it would seem fairly easy at this point for Sony to release a combined Heisei/Millennium Godzilla Blu Ray set. They would have to negotiate with Toho ,Kraken, and Lionsgate to get RoG and Biollante, but I imagine it would be less red tape than what Criterion had to go through, and the advantage is that all those films have a Toho produced dub except 2000, which has already been made available on Blu Ray. Sure we would not get G1985, but by now we understand it's pretty much dependent on fans to keep alive. Much less content potential to disappoint fans involved with the 13 Heisei/Millennium films.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby H-Man » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:53 pm

lhb412 wrote:^ The were only provided dubs for some of the Showa Gamera films, so they decided to just askew the English dubs for uniformity (those were more like one of their value releases anyway, what with the substandard 1080i versions provided).


That makes sense, and is unfortunate. I bet they were provided with the same poor versions that Shout! used for the 1967-1980 films.

I believe August said that Shout! didn't bother with the Sandy Frank produced re-dub of Gamera because they couldn't get Gammera and didn't want the inferior Sandy Frank version as the sole English version on their disc. (I think that's strange reasoning myself, but whatever.) Likewise, Gamera vs. Barugon was tricky for them because the only uncut English version is the Hong Kong export dub, but that was the only Sandy Frank release that wasn't issued on Laserdisc. The AI-TV version is more than ten minutes shorter so they couldn't practically include that either; not to mention all circulating copies of that version sound and look like crap.

Of course, now there are fan-made tracks that sync decent-sounding audio of the Sandy Frank Gamera and HK Barugon to Kadokawa's HD transfers but I'm sure Mill Creek couldn't have reached out to the fan community for help on those films anyway. Bummer.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:23 pm

Does Mill Creek even have the license to Gamera still?
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:45 pm

Finally... a true first-class treatment for this horror classic from the fine folk at Arrow Video. Cannot wait!
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:17 am

I preordred that myself, it'll be my first Arrow release. I hear they do amazing stuff so I can't wait. Plus it'll be a nice upgrade to my Gen 1 BD of An American Werewolf of London. It would have been nice if it was a 4K release but I'm still glad we're getting it.

Also rumored for October is the last three MCU movies in 4K, those being Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange and Ant-man. Allegedly those are going to drop on October 1st.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:29 am

Hmmmm... do I buy the special edition of American Werewolf and get the booklet and the poster and whatnot or do I wait a few months for a slimmer standard edition with just the disc?
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:56 am

lhb412 wrote:Hmmmm... Okay, apparently Matt Frank's been teasing some special project and...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAVp1EXW4AE ... me=900x900

By comparing it to Mill Creek's Ultraman and Criterion's Godzilla sets it seems to indicate a home video release. Redman? Other Toho kaiju? - but, if you look at the replies you'll see a little angry emoji face from artist and Gamera superfan Sophie Campbell, whose work is included in the Criterion Godzilla set. I may be making something out of nothing, but I think that this is something to do with Gamera.


- ONE MONTH LATER -

Arrow Video announces streaming channel, and what do we find listed among the films but...

"- and a collection of the Japanese classic “Gamera” movies."

https://arrowfilms.com/news/join-the-cu ... XTF6b76b68
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby H-Man » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:05 pm

I hope this means an eventual home media release of the Legend Films Gammera but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:23 pm

I wonder if that means the Gamera films will go off of Vudu?...they have been free to watch,(sans the original film) but not available to purchase, although they are sourced form the S!F releases.

A pristine copy of Gammera the Invincible on BRD would be amazing. For All the other AIP sourced films, there probably aren't good enough materials that exist to make HD versions, so I'll settle for the mediocre DVD collections I have. The S!F DVD's are good for all films except for the first two (With regard to English versions), but at least there is some preservation, no matter how faded, of the AIP edits and credit sequences for:

War of the Monsters
Return of the Giant Monsters
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby H-Man » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:23 pm

The AI-TV Gameras came up recently at Toho Kingdom and this is what I had to say about the best sources for each:

  • Sinister Cinema has a slightly better version of WOTM but it's basically the same master. Alpha just snipped the AI-TV logo and their encode isn't quite as good, IMO.
  • Return of the Giant Monsters - The best version is a recording from UPN in 2002, but even that isn't perfect (compressed video/audio to account for more commercials). It was an official MGM transfer which I'm sure will never be resurrected since they lost the rights years ago. Sinister Cinema has a copy that is quite like their WOTM transfer but doesn't have any of the time-compression problems the UPN recording suffers from.
  • Destroy All Planets - The 2010 (?) Retromedia DVD used a new transfer that looks and sounds good and has a commentary track with Carl Craig.
  • Attack of the Monsters - The 2003 Retromedia DVD. AFAIK, all other releases since have been copies of this.
  • Gamera vs. Monster X - Sinister Cinema; the Retromedia double features adds a lame video-generated copyright notice over the title.

Obviously if you only care about the audio and not the visuals or the 4:3 framing these movies were originally seen with on TV, then the Shout! DVDs are fine, although the dubs are rarely ever properly synced.


I don't expect any future official release of these movies to use the unique AI-TV visuals (mostly credits) even as bonus content, but the audio on most of these is good enough for DVD and Blu-ray, IMO. Obviously new transfers of each from film would be ideal but totally unlikely.

Unfortunately the only available versions of WOTM and Monster X are film chained so the frame rate is inconsistent and blended frames make a truly accurate sync to high definition video impossible. But I also don't imagine we'll ever hear WOTM again since it's about 12 minutes shorter than the Japanese version and that would require some kind of editing that a video label isn't going to do for Gamera.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby lhb412 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:10 pm

Just FYI; on Arrow Video's Sister Street Fighter set they included the original American release version of Sister Street Fighter via editing a Japanese print to the American one's soundtrack and including standard-definition inserts from whatever copy of the original American release version they had for things like credits and other English text.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:15 pm

lhb412 wrote:Just FYI; on Arrow Video's Sister Street Fighter set they included the original American release version of Sister Street Fighter via editing a Japanese print to the American one's soundtrack and including standard-definition inserts from whatever copy of the original American release version they had for things like credits and other English text.


In almost all of these cases, offering 99% accurate 'American' versions of these film CAN be done; perhaps not to perfection, but anywhere from slightly better than what we have to enhanced to full-blown 4k BD releases. The question then becomes one of money. The amount required to reconstruct and release them in their best, fullest versions for English speaking fans versus how much will be recovered and profits made through sales. Unless some ultra-rich uberfan with more money than brains comes along we will likely never see pristine high def 'American' versions of many if not most of these films and TV shows.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby H-Man » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:12 am

lhb412 wrote:Just FYI; on Arrow Video's Sister Street Fighter set they included the original American release version of Sister Street Fighter via editing a Japanese print to the American one's soundtrack and including standard-definition inserts from whatever copy of the original American release version they had for things like credits and other English text.


Thanks, I don't have that release, but it does seem somewhat hopeful. However, as Jinzo said, I still can't see that kind of effort being applied to War of the Monsters, especially considering this is the best source for that version of the flick:

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That is unless someone can find a film source and do all the hard work of restoration and reconstruction. It just seems too unlikely to me.
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Re: Blu Ray Wish Lists

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:46 am

Man it is so true, you get what you pay for. I have the Alpha Video DVD of WotM. But I had 2 other "El cheapo" Gamera sets. One from Allegro in 2012, and one from TGG Direct from 2013. Those prints of WotM are even worse. I'd love to see that one with the AIP logo in tact make its way to home media.

*edit*...Ok so these probably have been around for a long time, and I never noticed, but archive.org has most of these films available to stream & Download for free. They have a version of WotM with the AIP into intact, and what appears to be a newly video generated title sequence in the style of the original. I know many are not fans of this, but it looks pretty darn good IMHO.
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