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DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby kpa » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:07 am

I've posted the English production notes and a bunch of high-res images from the movie DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS on SciFi Japan...

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2013 ... ion-notes/

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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:16 am

It's be nice if Funimation would hurry the **** up and dub this thing already and then put it out on BD!!!!! They got Kai out so quickly that I thought they were done with this delayed release bull****, especially from Dragonball.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby kpa » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:54 pm

Kain, 20th Century Fox has a first-look option on the DRAGONBALL Z theatrical movies. FUNimation can't do anything with this film unless Fox decides not to distribute it in North America.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:51 pm

kpa wrote:Kain, 20th Century Fox has a first-look option on the DRAGONBALL Z theatrical movies. FUNimation can't do anything with this film unless Fox decides not to distribute it in North America.


Do you have proof of this?

I do not see how Fox has any right to the series that Funimation OWNS in the US. And I'm pretty sure if Fox was going to take it, they would have done so by now.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Zack Metoyer » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:03 pm

:roll:

Anyway, I saw this a while back and was actually pleasantly surprised. It feels like a legitimate continuation of Dragon Ball Z and the Dragon Ball manga, and well, technically, it is. It's Toriyama-fun-stupid instead of simple-cash-in-stupid. In other words, it's superfluous in the way the original material relished being. If that makes any sense.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Gman2887 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:06 am

Dr Kain wrote:Do you have proof of this?

I do not see how Fox has any right to the series that Funimation OWNS in the US. And I'm pretty sure if Fox was going to take it, they would have done so by now.


Kain, this has been common knowledge for a long while and is precisely why we have yet to see it in North America yet. 20th Century Fox has theatrical rights to DBZ movies in North America and first option for theatrical movies overseas. Do you really think making Dragonball: Evolution was the end of that deal? Why do think Fox made Dragonball: Evolution? It was done to hang on to these rights and secure possible options like these for the future. Plus I think Kieth, a man who is given these materials from official sources, would know.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:41 am

Common knowledge? There is a difference between live action and anime. Funimation owns all rights to the Dragonball anime.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:22 pm

Dr Kain wrote:Common knowledge? There is a difference between live action and anime. Funimation owns all rights to the Dragonball anime.

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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby kpa » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:34 pm

Dr Kain wrote:
kpa wrote:Kain, 20th Century Fox has a first-look option on the DRAGONBALL Z theatrical movies. FUNimation can't do anything with this film unless Fox decides not to distribute it in North America.


Do you have proof of this?


Of course I do. If I'm not sure or if I'm guessing about something I'll say so up front. But I don't state something as a fact unless there's evidence supporting it... you should know this by now.

SciFi Japan is press registered with FUNimation and I know people there. We're also press registered with Toei -- which is how we were able to run high-res images, production notes and press materials from DBZ: BOS -- plus Madman (who is releasing the film in Australia and New Zealand) and Lucky Red (Italian distributor). So if I'm looking for info I have multiple sources to reach out to.

I was told that Fox has the first-look option for the DBZ films in North America. And DBZ: BOS was made by the "2013 Dragon Ball Z" Production Committee which -- according to the info Toei gave SciFi Japan -- is made up of Toei, 20th Century Fox Japan, Shueisha, Fuji Television Network, Toei Animation, Bandai and Bandai Namco. So Fox was involved in the production of the film.

If you want outside corroboration, Anime News Network transcribed the FUNimation panel from last year's Sakuracon...

Q: Any word on Dragon Ball Z: Battle of the Gods?
A: Wow, everyone is asking this question! All DBZ movies must first be offered to Fox, and the option for release hasn't picked up yet. It's way too early to talk release plans, but personally I think it'll probably be 2014 before we see it on these shores.


And there are also these quotes from an interview with a Fox rep last May...

We want to distribute the movie in Asia, North America, South America, and Europe. ... We and others engaged in this movie’s distribution strongly feel the high level of attention it has received from foreign countries.

I do not see how Fox has any right to the series that Funimation OWNS in the US.


I don't think you understand how licensing rights work. First of all, each contract is different with its own unique clauses and conditions so -- unless you've seen the agreements Toei has signed with Fox and FUNimation -- assuming that you know the details is foolish and a sure way to be wrong.

Having worked on licensed projects for several different companies, I can tell you that the contracts are very specific over what rights the licensee may or may not have. Film and television series would be a separate license, and then there would be agreements over specific aspects like home video, TV broadcasting, streaming, etc. A licensee may not buy all the rights (for example, a company that only does DVD would need or want TV broadcast rights) so those options would be left available for other companies to pick up. And a deal may be for a short time or run decades.

So your "FUNimation OWNS everything" claim is wrong. They may have purchased all of the available rights for the DBZ series, but that wouldn't invalidate a prior deal between Toei and Fox for theatrical options.

And I'm pretty sure if Fox was going to take it, they would have done so by now.


That's an assumption based on nothing. You don't know how long Fox's option lasts... it could be years, which means there's no rush for them to do anything. You didn't even know they had the option, but you're "pretty sure" you know how they would do business for this film. Seriously?

Common knowledge?


Yes, it is. FUNimation has discussed it. Fox has discussed it. Major anime sites like ANN have reported it. The info has been available online for nearly a year.

There is a difference between live action and anime.


Obviously. But your repeated mistake is that you don't know what was in the contracts between Fox and Toei, and yet assume you know what Fox does or doesn't have rights to.

I haven't seen the contracts, either, so I don't know what they contain. But I can imagine a few possibilities that would fit: 1) Fox wanted an option on the anime films in case DRAGONBALL EVOLUTION was a hit because that would give them ready-made product to generate more money off the live action movie. Or 2) Fox didn't want another company releasing an anime DBZ film in the US at the same time as DRAGONBALL EVOLUTION because it would compete for box office profits. And that's just two options off the top of my head... who knows what else Fox and their lawyers had in mind when they made the deal with Toei?

Funimation owns all rights to the Dragonball anime.


Not according to FUNimation, Fox and Toei.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby klen7 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:51 pm

Always educational, thanks for the detailed response!
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:52 pm

klen7 wrote:Always educational, thanks for the detailed response!

I know right...god bless Keith. If not for him, I wouldn't be able to act all haughty like I know everything and everyone who doesn't is beneath me for not knowing. :lol:
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:53 am

Thank you for the clarification kpa. It makes more sense now (still utter bullshit, as Fox will never put the effort into it Funimation will, especially when it comes to dubbing it unless they just flat out let Funi dub it).

Unfortunately, this also means I might as well just go out and download the fansub since it could be 10 years before we get this thing.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Russzilla » Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:47 pm

^Looking forward to seeing this. In its original format though. (Japanese) I cannot STAND the English dubbing for DBZ. Just horrible.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby metal_bryan » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:56 pm

Russzilla wrote:I cannot STAND the English dubbing for DBZ. Just horrible.


I'm not a big fan of the US dub either.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:15 pm

I love Kai's US dub! But my favorite dub is still the 90s Latino Spanish dub that was dubbed in Mexico. Easily.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:02 am

Russzilla wrote:^Looking forward to seeing this. In its original format though. (Japanese) I cannot STAND the English dubbing for DBZ. Just horrible.


Oh, I cannot stand the dub to Dragonball Z. However, Funimation's dub for the Kai version was down right incredible. Not only did they actually take dubbing the show seriously, but they didn't add dialog where there isn't supposed to be any and the voices fit. Chris Ayres' Freeza is down right amazing.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:47 pm

We got to see this at the Alamo Drafthouse last night and it was down right incredible. Akira Toriyama was definitely on his A game when he wrote this as it was well written, well paced, it focused more on character development than action, and Beers is probably his most original Dragonball villain ever. In face, Beers was just plain awesome because he was not your typical villain. He had a personality, he had humor, and when he did not get that pudding, you wanted to see him get his revenge. :-) It was also nice to see the cast back after all this time, especially in something that erases that terrible GT from continuity. Of course, this movie also helped make me want Toei to just do an entirely brand new adaptation of the manga without any of the filler or the annoyingly long episodes of pointless banter (and by new adaptation I mean of the whole thing from when Goku and Bulma first met through the Buu saga. Overall, this movie gets a great big 8/10 from me. Not only is it the best Dragonball movie ever, but it is also one of the best Dragonball stories period.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:08 pm

Man this was a lot of fun.

DBZ Battle of Gods: full "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" house, including another 10 people or so in the aisles. families with kids too young to even know the word "anime", couples, and bros bros and more bros (10 people wearing DBZ shirts)

What a fun experience mang. It was just flat out fun.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:40 am

Some of my favorite moments of the movie (spoiler warning):

"26 minutes, that is the length of one anime episode."

"Hey everyone, Vegeta has friends!!"

Goku and King Kai in the car.

Gotenks getting spanked.

Whis at the sushi cart

"I destroyed Earth."

Vegeta's look when Kai told him it was up to him to save the Earth.

Vegeta's dancing.

The fact that Bulma now has a spaceship ready to launch at a moment's notice in her backyard.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Gman2887 » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:42 pm

What an absolute gas. A packed theater of fans young and old, a wonderful story, incredible animation and riotous humor. This was quite the experience-- An excellent play on nostalgia while also delivering a whole lot of fun.

Can't wait for the next movie!
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby Dr Kain » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:13 pm

Well I just finished the final chapter of the original Dragonball series and overall, it was utterly fantastic. The adventure of watching Goku go from isolated child to a badass adult was pretty damn awesome, but in some ways, I wish he had stayed a kid. I just find him to be far more interesting as a child than an adult. Nevertheless, the adventures within the series were great and there were a lot of hilarity throughout the series. The Chi Chi fight at the tournament is one of the funniest moments for me. Goku's reaction was great. I also loved the introduction to Pilaf and the breaking the fourth wall bits, along with his disgust over Bulma's vulgarity. However, there seems to be two details missing from the manga and now I'm curious where they came from. The first being why is Pilaf and gang stuck as children? When did that happen for it to be a plot point in both GT and Battle of Gods? Secondly, in the Z anime they said Goku trained in the Room of Space and Time, was that an anime invention? If so, how do they train in the manga during the Cell saga to get stronger? Wait, don't tell me, I'll get there soon enough. My favorite arcs include the first two Tenkai'ichi Bodoukais and the Red Ribbon Army.

Overall, I am glad I have finally had the chance to read through the original series so I now know where everything is in the Z anime. Of course, I've also started watching the DB anime (up to episode 32), but I can't say the anime has grasp me as much as the manga. Nevertheless, I give this series a great 9/10 stars and look forward to reading through the Z portion now.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby angilas » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:44 am

Dr Kain wrote:Well I just finished the final chapter of the original Dragonball series and overall, it was utterly fantastic. The adventure of watching Goku go from isolated child to a badass adult was pretty damn awesome, but in some ways, I wish he had stayed a kid. I just find him to be far more interesting as a child than an adult. Nevertheless, the adventures within the series were great and there were a lot of hilarity throughout the series. The Chi Chi fight at the tournament is one of the funniest moments for me. Goku's reaction was great. I also loved the introduction to Pilaf and the breaking the fourth wall bits, along with his disgust over Bulma's vulgarity. However, there seems to be two details missing from the manga and now I'm curious where they came from. The first being why is Pilaf and gang stuck as children? When did that happen for it to be a plot point in both GT and Battle of Gods? Secondly, in the Z anime they said Goku trained in the Room of Space and Time, was that an anime invention? If so, how do they train in the manga during the Cell saga to get stronger? Wait, don't tell me, I'll get there soon enough. My favorite arcs include the first two Tenkai'ichi Bodoukais and the Red Ribbon Army.

Overall, I am glad I have finally had the chance to read through the original series so I now know where everything is in the Z anime. Of course, I've also started watching the DB anime (up to episode 32), but I can't say the anime has grasp me as much as the manga. Nevertheless, I give this series a great 9/10 stars and look forward to reading through the Z portion now.


I'm a bit confused as to whether you're commenting on BoTG, the Dragonball Manga or both. If you want an answer on the room of spirit and time from someone who hasnt read the manga in 15 years but loved it as a child
Spoiler Below:
Goku spent about a month in there as a kid. When he was training under Kami. It's all off screen and you don't learn about it until he revisits it with his son for 9 additional months.But i think the gravity of a week or a month or however long he spent combined with the weather changes were too much for 15-18yo goku to handle. That being said the series resumes when he's 23 and I dont think he goes back there till he's 30!older than I am now.Edit: I checked and it was a bit shorter than a month he spent there off screen as a kid, or 2 hours in the real world (source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-377/ , also I'm pretty sure those temp changes are in celcius, which is like 581 rankine (121F) to 419 Rankine (-41F)
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Oh, to add to my edit, this is coming out in 3 weeks on blu ray with special bonus footage not even released on japanese home media: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/tag/dbz-movie-2013/
Now I'm not so bummed I havent seen it yet, including its runs here and when i was there.
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Re: DRAGON BALL Z: BATTLE OF GODS

Postby jellydonut25 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:39 am

I finally saw this. It's a fun time, and it definitely makes me want to go back and re-watch all the DBZ stuff, but first I wanna go through Dragonball...which I'm almost through Season 3, The Red Ribbon Army Saga.
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