Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:52 pm

THR NOVEMBER 27, 2018:
From 'Jurassic Park' to 'Fallen Kingdom': The Visual Effects Evolution of the Franchise's Dinosaurs
Carolyn Giardina wrote:The Industrial Light & Magic-created dinosaurs of Jurassic Park have experienced their own evolution since they first appeared onscreen in the 1993 original, and they got yet another overhaul in the $170 million Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, which has grossed $1.3 billion worldwide since its June release and is now vying for Oscar's attention in the visual effects race.

"It was really important to me that we build them in a scientific way. The human eye is so incredibly perceptive, and if you try to invent these details, then the audience is aware of the fact you're just making stuff up," VFX supervisor David Vickery told The Hollywood Reporter in October at the VFX and animation conference VIEW in Turin, Italy. "The reason people love the dinosaurs so much is because they're real. They're not fantastic creatures; they existed."

In Fallen Kingdom, all the film's CG and animatronic dinosaurs — 21 species, including seven new ones — received a fresh look. The work on each creature began with studying dinosaur fossils, and the team took cues from living animals. Take, for example, the Baryonyx, a theropod that is believed to have had aquatic tendencies. Vickery says its skin was inspired by that of crocodiles and alligators, while its feet mimic those of ostriches and emus. "The bone structure of those large birds is very similar," he explains. "That reality is a visual anchor for the audience, and your brain accepts them because you're seeing details with which you are familiar."

In scenes that didn't require a full-length dinosaur, creature supervisor Neal Scanlan and his crew built animatronics — this time using digital blueprints to print 3D parts. "We made a full-size T. rex — the head to the back of the shoulders — that was 3D-printed from ILM's digital files. It was like a huge dinosaur jigsaw puzzle," Vickery says. The animatronics were then touched up with digital tools where appropriate. "In one shot, we might replace the head. In another, maybe just the eye."

Where there were no animatronics, the VFX team made sure there was some sort of representation of the dinosaurs on set for the actors to relate to. Sometimes it was simply a Styrofoam hat that a performer wore. Other times, inflatable dinosaurs were used. The sense of reality was further enhanced by shooting live-action scenes in Hawaii, which eliminated the need for stage-bound greenscreen work. (Vickery notes that moviegoers have become "very savvy" about recognizing when actors are working against a greenscreen.)

Led by special effects supervisor Paul Corbould, the VFX team also built part of a roller coaster at Pinewood Studios in the U.K. for a scene during which the characters played by Justice Smith and Bryce Dallas Howard go off a cliff in a gyrosphere. "Paul worked out the perfect trajectory to get this moment of zero-G," says Vickery, an Oscar nominee for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2. "We wanted to see an authentic reaction on their faces. We put them in the roller coaster, and we filmed it. Their reaction is priceless. You believe them, so you believe the shot."
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:10 pm

I finally watched this last night via Redbox.

*sigh*

It's even worse than I feared. I've had a bad feeling about this movie since the first trailer. I've been a fan of the Jurassic series since I was 5 years old. I wanted to believe that this fifth entry would surprise me but it's just awful, in ways that are so easily avoidable. I can't believe the series managed to get this bad without even resorting to dinos with guns or dinos in space.

I like the concept of getting through all of the big explosions by the halfway point and having a third act that's confined to a small, claustrophobic location but it doesn't make a difference when the entire movie is spectacle-driven without any internal logic. They're not even trying to make these dinosaurs act like living animals at this point. Every movement that they make is exaggerated like they're cartoon characters. The Indoraptor acts like a self-aware slasher villain and her showdown with Blue is absurd. ALL of the action in this movie is absurd.

It's a nice idea to have a scene where Owen works to save Blue's life intercut with a character watching a recording of Owen training Blue when she was young. That idea is wasted when the scene involves a doctor giving a Velociraptor a transfusion of Tyrannosaurus blood. When Wu hears that and he goes "You did what!?" he is the only character who has a realistic response to that idiotic idea. And of course, that idiotic idea works! The raptor does not die horribly when she gets T. rex blood mixed into her circulatory system. Who needs matching blood types or even matching species? They're all dinoclones, whatever, don't think about it, Blue's alive!

The only thing volcanic about this volcano is that it goes boom. The magma clearly isn't very hot because it comes within inches of Owen and he doesn't even get singed. It splashes off a Baryonyx's head more than once and the animal is still clamoring after Claire. Owen gets engulfed by pyroclastic flow and plunges off a cliff (offscreen) into the ocean without any protection, and he's still alive and conscious and not even injured.

This is where the Jurassic series is at now. It's not over-the-top, own-its-insanity, crazy dino action. It's just hollow, spectacle-driven and really, really dumb. The box office suggests that a lot of people enjoyed this movie but I did not. It's the worst Jurassic series entry by a mile. I couldn't believe it was under two hours when the credits started rolling. It felt so much longer. One of the characters actually said "How are we going to end this?" during the third act and the movie kept going for another half-hour after that.


Pacific Rim > Shin Godzilla > Kong: Skull Island > Godzilla > Rampage > Jurassic World > Power Rangers > The Meg > Pacific Rim: Uprising > Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom


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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby lhb412 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:07 am

^ Ooh, we're doing rankings? What fun!

Pacific Rim > Shin Godzilla > Kong: Skull Island > Godzilla 2014 > Collosal > Power Rangers > Godzilla anime trilogy > Rampage > Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom > Jurassic World > Pacific Rim: Uprising

Those last two are the only ones I found it hard to derive any enjoyment from. Fallen Kingdom, at least to me, had some classic B-movie thrills in the American International Pictures Style. I think that Spielberg's original Jurassic Park really transcends the genre, and none of the sequels have even though they've imagined themselves to. Fallen Kingdom at least had the guts to go full Doug McClure!
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby klen7 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:12 pm

lhb412 wrote:^ Ooh, we're doing rankings? What fun!


Oh that's tough. Even trying to break them into tiers i couldn't do it
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby Baltan II » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:23 am

Not worth starting a new thread for this, but the delayed short film Battle at Big Rock, taking place after the events of Fallen Kingdom, is finally set to premiere on the 15th on FX, presumably sometime during their airing of Jurassic World that evening, with some sort of streaming release afterward.
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Re: Jurassic World: Battle at Big Rock (2019)

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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:50 pm

I was excited for this, for a moment, until I remembered how nonsensical the ending of Jurassic Mansion was. Like 30 dinosaurs escaped into the wild, most of them single members of their species. This *world overrun with Dinosaurs* just cant happen....even in make believe sci-fi land it seems outlandish.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby Baltan II » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:47 pm

The movie does a crap job of showing it, but says what’s actually the threat, which is the spread of the technology to create dinosaurs by “anybody”, because now you have embryos and living specimens around the world to reverse-engineer. Still a bit of a piss-poor grand message, I’ll grant you. The short’s only eight minutes long, and should be fun for what it is as it’s not going to get into any of that.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby XvGojira » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:09 pm

Baltan II wrote:The movie does a crap job of showing it, but says what’s actually the threat, which is the spread of the technology to create dinosaurs by “anybody”, because now you have embryos and living specimens around the world to reverse-engineer. Still a bit of a piss-poor grand message, I’ll grant you. The short’s only eight minutes long, and should be fun for what it is as it’s not going to get into any of that.


I'm going to rant on for a moment so bare with me.

That's something the series never touched upon enough in my opinion. Nedry tried stealing embryos for Dodgson but that's as far as that idea went in the movies. In the games, and I think in the book (it's been forever since I re-read it), there was a competing company BioSyn or something that was trying to steal dinosaurs/DNA/whatever. There's ample time and ability for others to take samples from Site B (or even Nublar since the Rex, and I assume other dinos, survived after the events of the first movie to be in JW). If there is gray/black market parasailing opportunities, and if pair of divorcés can fund a flight onto the island, a company that's competing with InGen should be able to fund a stealth trip or two to Nublar or Sorna for a few samples. If showing the pterosaurs flying away at the end of JP3 means anything, there might have been dinosaurs off the island to be sampled for some time.

Let's say that some how the only time people got onto the islands pre-JW was JP3 and that the pterosaurs weren't found and harvested by anyone else, it has been well over 20 years, there has to be other groups of smart people finding their own way of genetically engineering dinosaurs of their own. That's also if NO ONE from InGen's team spilled even the smallest of beans on how they made dinos. Maybe they decided to use bird DNA so we can get more accurate looking feathered dinos. That was actually the direction I thought JW2 was going to go, Clair and Starlord trying to stop others from creating and abusing dinosaurs for monetary/military gain.

I loved the angle of someone else creating dinosaurs though. I thought that was going to be a plot element in JP3 with how Grant says that the Spinosaurs wasn't on InGen's list of dinosaurs. Who created the Spino? Was InGen behind it? Did some one else get on the island was creating their own dinosaurs using InGen's equipment? And why? The fact that plot line went nowhere was one of the reasons I hated JP3 when I walked out of the theater. It's an angle that I think would have seemed more fresh as a reboot than JW being "What if the dinos escaped after the park opened".

And if other parties were making dinosaurs they could be doing it for numerous reasons. You could have attempts to make "domesticated" mini-versions, like that Russian experiment of domesticating foxes creates both docile foxes and demon foxes. There could wilder hybrids that are more reminiscent of the "Chaos Theory" toy line where they are all wild colors and more monster than dinosaur, although they said they're done with hybrids which is fine. Maybe stegosaurus taste like beef and they impact the environment less than actual farming actual cows, or maybe theropods instead of chicken.

So while it might have taken longer than it should, and through iffy narrative means, I'm down with other entities creating dinosaurs.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby XvGojira » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:59 am

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I enjoyed that. The home video clips at the end were great. If this was the opening for JW3, I would have considered it worth my ticket price already.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby Gwangi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:24 am

I found it too dark to make things out. Filmmakers love night scenes nowadays, so the trend continues.

It was a good short, but I feel it would have served a better purpose if this was in daylight (like scenes that we saw in the end credits).
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:43 pm

It was amusing to say the least. We finally get the stereotypical (but not in a bad way) T-Rex vs Triceratops fight scene from so many past Dino books and films (except in this case, now it's an Allosaur). The clips at the end were pretty amusing, but having been around animals in the wild, especially in national parks, I know how dumb some people can be, but also how all that could be avoided.

I'm still not buying that these animals are able to *breed*, except the Compys and Pterodactyls which were definitely shown to have multiple specimens taken from the island. There was only one Triceratops, unless they say it was getting ready to lay before it was taken off the island, in that case...whatever.... Also, with the Oceans covering 2/3 of the earth's surface, I still maintain, that the Mosasaur would never be seen by humans again, or extremely unlikely. I mean Giant Squid number possibly in the tens of thousands, but there are only a few sightings per year even with DSV. How often do you think a creature, of which there is only ONE will actually be seen?
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Re: Jurassic World 3 (June 21, 2021)

Postby mr.negativity » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:38 am

Variety:
‘Jurassic World 3’ Bringing Back Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum and Sam Neill
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Dave McNary wrote:Laura Dern, Jeff Goldblum and Sam Neill are returning to the world of the dinosaurs in the upcoming “Jurassic World 3.”

The trio, who all appeared in the original “Jurassic Park” in 1993, will reprise their roles in the third chapter in Universal Pictures and Amblin Entertainment’s “Jurassic World” franchise. Dern will play Dr. Ellie Sattler, Neill will portray Dr. Alan Grant and Goldblum will return as the wisecracking Dr. Ian Malcolm.

Colin Trevorrow is returning to direct with Chris Pratt returning as dinosaur handler Owen Grady and Bryce Dallas Howard as dinosaur rights activist Claire Dearing. The castings of Dern, Goldblum and Neill were announced Tuesday night at a special Arclight Hollywood screening of “Jurassic World” when Trevorrow brought out Dern during the Q&A portion.

Steven Spielberg and Trevorrow return to executive produce. Producers Frank Marshall and Pat Crowley once again partner with Spielberg and Trevorrow.

Emily Carmichael, whose credits include “Pacific Rim: Uprising,” has written the “Jurassic World 3” screenplay with Trevorrow. They worked off a story by Derek Connolly and Trevorrow, who together co-wrote “Jurassic World” and “Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom.”

Trevorrow directed 2015’s “Jurassic World,” which went on to gross $1.67 billion worldwide. J.A. Bayona directed “Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom,” which took in $1.3 billion worldwide. “Fallen Kingdom” ended with freed dinosaurs roaming the wilderness. Universal has not yet disclosed plot details for “Jurassic World 3.”

Universal has already set a June 21, 2021, release date for “Jurassic World 3.” Universal’s Senior Vice President of Production Sara Scott is overseeing production on behalf of the studio.

Dern is represented CAA and Untitled Entertainment; Neill is Curtis Brown Group Ltd, ICM Partners and Shanahan Management; Goldblum is represented by ICM, Industry Entertainment and Hansen, Jacobson, Teller, Hoberman, Newman, Warren, Richman, Rush, Kaller & Gellman L.L.P.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby canofhumdingers » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:06 am

Well, that’s pretty cool. I enjoyed Goldblum’s cameo in the most recent film but it would be great if the trio has actual roles in the plot this time. I’d love to see them back in action together one more time!
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:46 pm

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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby Baltan II » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:44 pm

What a waste of a click and thirty seconds of reading.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby lhb412 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:20 am

The next movie set in the far future and dinosaur scientists are recreating humans, specifically; recreating the human characters from the Jurassic Park movies so they can star in ultra realistic docudramas produced by and for dinosaur society to detail their recreation.
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Re: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

Postby william newell » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:28 am

lhb412 wrote:The next movie set in the far future and dinosaur scientists are recreating humans, specifically; recreating the human characters from the Jurassic Park movies so they can star in ultra realistic docudramas produced by and for dinosaur society to detail their recreation.


Kinda sounds like that old "Animation Domination" short, "Pleistocene Park".In fact, here it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejjN1rRFMo4
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