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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby Jinzo Ningen » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:57 pm

Pretty good flick overall. Certainly not the second coming that the media has made it out to be. Of course I say this as a white male in his 50's. I can only imagine what it must be like for black kids to finally see someone up on the screen that is uniquely theirs' and not just a superhero, but a monarch who is so many things, most all of them good. Props for Marvel for not only taking what was a hot potato and not only going with it but wholly embracing it and pushing the blackness of the film to 110%. That took balls, and for Disney & Feige it is obviously paying off in spades (no pun intended).

THE GOOD: Visuals were, for the most part, spectacular. The costume design is hands-down among the very best that I have ever seen in any movie, of any kind. If The designer doesn't get an Oscar nod (and the trophy itself), the academy is crazy. Music? Awesome! I was so fearing that the whole thing would be choked with hiphop & rap garbage, like they did in the trailers. Except for brief rap bits at the beginning & end, they gave us a full gorgeous score that fully embraced the African tribal aesthetic. Best African-flavored soundtrack I've heard since Ghost & The Darkness. The acting across the board is among the best of any Marvel film. The women were especially strong and impressive - in every way. Chadwick? Loved him ever since I caught '42' :D

THE BAD: The CGI is really waffly in this. :? So much of it was obvious computer stuff, yanking me out of the narrative every time it floundered. You'd think this stuff would be getting more polished, but it seems to be the opposite. Perhaps it's the rushed production schedules? ILM should be ashamed at some of what I saw. And I for one am getting REALLY tired of heroes who jump and just seem to float. There is almost zero gravity-influence on a lot of these characters. If you can fly like Vision or Superman, fine. But when you jump you almost immediately start to arc down due to gravity. These floaty jumps look just awful. The rhinos looked pretty bad, too. (How hard would it have been to get a real rhino in that early scene where he's in a pen? Prosthetic long horns and presto! You'd think that would've been much less expensive than paying a company to CG a whole animal. Odd.) I found it hard to sit through some of the fight scenes with Panther trying to follow what's going on. Two black guys, dressed head-to-toe in black, fighting in a dark tunnel... really? Somebody give me a clue as to what went on. LOL. I would've preferred a little less choppy editing overall during the fight stuff too, while I'm at it. Lastly, I didn't buy the whole "your entire suit deploys out of this tiny necklace" stuff either. That was really stretching 'suspension of disbelief' a bit too far, for me. YMMV.

I give BP a solid 7.5/10 but will be going back this weekend to give it another look. My rating may improve with a second viewing.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby eabaker » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:33 pm

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby canofhumdingers » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:18 pm

Whoops, forgot about the civil war credits scene. Haven’t watched that one in a while.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby canofhumdingers » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:22 pm

Eh, I've got the blu ray. I just haven't watched it since it came out. But I will be soon. I'm refreshing myself on Cap's journey before seeing Infinity War. I watched the first one again recently, and have plans to watch Avengers, Winter Soldier, and Civil War in the near future. Captain America is EASILY my favorite hero from the MCU.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby eabaker » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:01 pm

Saw Black Panther over the weekend.

I wouldn't put it on quite the top tier of Marvel flicks (in terms of my tastes), but solidly on the second tier, which is still pretty damned good.

Above all else, I was drawn to the ideological debates, and especially the way that ideology shaped the character of Killmonger. And I'm a big fan of ensemble stories, so the significance of characters Nakia, Okoye, W'Kabi, Shuri and M'Baku to the plot really excited me.

Ultimately, it's hard to miss what a passive protagonist T'Challa is. His goals are pretty abstract, and its the actions of other characters that drive most of the narrative. And I think he would have had a stronger arc if he'd initially been set up as more of a staunch isolationist, so that his choices at the end represented more of a transformation.

I also would have liked to see more interaction between T'Challa and Killmonger prior to the former learning the latter's true identity. There as room for a much more powerful emotional and intellectual confrontation between them.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby Tom R VanSlambrouck » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:49 pm

I'm a bit late but I finally got a chance to see black panther in the theaters last night after work. My friend and I where the only ones in the screening so that was kinda nice we could discuss the movie and marvel history with out disrupting people.

Getting back to the movie I really enjoyed it and I actually have to agree with my friend that we needed a serious Marvel movie for once, it seems like the past few have been heavily focused on comedy. That being said I don't think it's the greatest Marvel movie to date but it certainly was a decent entry in the MCU and can't wait to see what they do with the character in future movies. Really looking forward to when they can bring in Storm as his wife.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby canofhumdingers » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:12 am

Best picture? It was alright, but it wasn't *that* good. I think nominations for things like costumes and production design are easily warranted. But best picture feels more like an "honorary degree" than an honest nomination, if that makes any sense.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby lhb412 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:32 am

^ I think it deserves a shot at the top spot just by virtue of what a cultural event was. What I mean to say is, even if you don't think it's the best movie of the year I think it's hard to argue that it was probably the "movie of the year."
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:28 am

Oh don't worry, it doesn't have a chance in hell of actually winning when they can give it to some safe film like Vice or A Star is Born.

However, what they wanted, worked. They gave a super hero film a nomination for Best Picture and now everyone is talking about the Oscars. This si probably the most traction they have had in years.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:51 pm

This may sound odd, because I don't even watch award shows since IMHO they are pointless but...with some of the faux pas of past years (wrong names being read etc...) If you casually speak the words Black Panther & BlacKkKlansman they both sound very similar (both have 3 syllables, the exact same first syllable, and similar "an" sound in the second). Either you have to enunciate VERY WELL, or for dramatic effect pause ever so slightly after *Black* :wink: . I also seriously doubt either of these will win either, but it would be amusing in any category both these films have nominations in, if either should happen to win, to drag it out a bit, just to mess with some folks. 8)
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:21 pm

Black Panther's Oscar nomination for Best Picture marks the first time since 2010's Toy Story 3 that the year's #1 biggest-grossing movie at the North American box office actually got nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Like Avatar the year before, Toy Story 3 was nominated but didn't win.

The last time that the year's #1 box office hit in North America actually won the Oscar for Best Picture was 2003's The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.

Whether Black Panther wins the award or not, it's in rare company. Not only is it the first superhero movie to be nominated for Best Picture, it's also only the third movie to ever break $700 million at the North American box office after Avatar and Star Wars: The Force Awakens.
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Re: Black Panther (2017)

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

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Re: Black Panther (2017)

Postby mbozzo » Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:30 pm

I remembered seeing this movie on DVD. I also remembered how much I like it. :D
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