Star Wars: Episode VIII The Last Jedi 12/15/17

[Gwangi]

Had a chance to finally see this on home video and perhaps get a better sense of it all. When I saw it at the theater months ago, I initially gave it a soft *** stars.

The things that I still liked. Rey's heritage which I thought was refreshing (though I strongly feel that is going to be changing in the next movie, as Kylo was most likely fibbing). That Twin Peak-ish red room (Snoke's chambers). The Rashomon-like arc between Luke & Kylo and finally, the Luke/Kylo confrontation.

The things I did not like. Admiral Holdo. Never understood her logic. DJ, which I thought was a pretty much a waste of Bencio Del Toro's talents. Grouchy Luke Skywalker. And finally Canto Bite, which looked like it belonged in the prequels.

After seeing this again, I found the sins of the movie a little more pronounced and thus I now change my rating from *** to **1/2 stars. We shall see where Episode 9 takes us.

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[jellydonut25]

I think Mark Hammill is just kinda sh***y about Star Wars, honestly. He's been so all over the place with regards to his statements on TLJ from "I don't like it" to "I love it" to "I don't even understand it," I think he doesn't really even think about it beyond being a gig. He's basically admitted at various times that he thinks it's stupid and everyone takes it too seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if this was borderline trolling.

[lhb412]

^I actually appreciate Mark Hamill's tongue and cheek responses when it comes to anything about his Star Wars character. He seems to appreciate the fact that Star Wars resonates with so many people, but he doesn't have the least bit of patience for pedantic nerdy stuff of any kind. As an OG nerd himself I suppose he got his fill of it sometime long ago.

Being almost 10 months on from the release of The Last Jedi everything about Star Wars has become tiresome. I'm on the record loving the movie, and I think it's definitely the strongest Star Wars movie made sense... hell, since Empire, but certainly since Disney bought them out - but constantly having to defend the movie like it's some sort of murder suspect is wearying. The folks who hate this movie just have not abated, and it's made me rethink generations of nerd behavior. Hell, at this point if I meet Roland Emmerich or Dean Devlin I probably say something like 'hey, I'm a big Godzilla fan and I just want to apologize on all the unpleasantness you got when you made the 98 movie.'

[jellydonut25]

I think it's largely because this movie may have kinda been the last straw for a lot of fans.

I know it was for me.

As the spin-offs seem to be devolving MORE into the kind of nostalgic wankery that I hated about the prequels, where we're supposed to care because we saw those people actually doing things in other movies and here they're just...there, the episodes were kinda what I was pinning all my excitement of Star Wars on.

I felt TLJ wasn't #subversive in any of the ways that really mattered or that would have made it exciting, and at 2.5 hours, it felt like a SLOG the one and only time I watched it in theaters. It kinda numbed my interest in even seeing this 'trilogy' pan out and I'm just kinda "done" with Star Wars.

Obviously I'll see episode 9, but I'm "looking forward" to it in the same way I was to Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom, a movie I still haven't had the gumption to see.

I think a lot of people are processing that feeling through rage at having the franchise kinda "die" for them in a way.

I'm just focusing instead of things I actually LIKE, because there's plenty out there.

[klen7]

[lhb412]

^Also: baked in King Arthur parallels.

[canofhumdingers]

[lhb412]

^ I was just thinking of the island where Luke sequesters himself being a parallel to Avalon. A more edumacated man might even whip up a comparison between Mordred and Kylo Ren!

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