Star Wars News Thread

[Dr Kain]

I had no issue with Saw's introduction in RO either and I never watched Clone Wars past its first season, so I had no idea he was from that.

Rebels though, was a hell of a series. So damn good. Yeah, like anything Star Wars, it wasn't perfect, but the story telling far exceeded what I've come to expect out of cartoons these days as it was right up there in story telling with the likes of Gargoyles and Samurai Jack.

As for Solo, the only way I would ever drop another cent on that crappile again is if it was packaged in a box set that featured the untouched theatrical cuts of the OT.

[O.Supreme]

[O.Supreme]

[lhb412]

[Benjamin Haines]

^ The wrong Sith died!

[lhb412]

^ It turns all your bad feelings into good ones. It's a nightmare!

[jellydonut25]

[The Shadow]

I think this spoiler in SOLO may be the first hiccup in Disney's + Lucasfilm's new approach of "everything happens" for Star Wars. I.E. The Clone Wars T.V. series, Rebels, all the books & comics, etc. happen (or are canon if one prefers) along with the movies. The spoiler has to be confusing plenty of people who haven't seen SW: Clone Wars as it has been off the air for about 5 years. I also think it's lazy for Disney to rely on the books to explain things that should have been addressed in the movies proper; for example Captain Phasma who should have died on the Super Duper It's Magic Deathstarplanet is suddenly around again to menace the intrepid heroes in The Last Jedi. How? A short scene of Captain Phasma breaking out of the garbage compactor in TFA would have been more than sufficient. Right now Phasma is a walking talking Chekhov's gun.

When the prequel trilogy first hit theaters a lot of people were mad that Lucas didn't go with all the things people had assumed from reading the Extended Universe novels (or some of the comics). At the time Lucas's approach to all the books & comics was that the movies came first, effectively they were the only thing truly canon. The movies were at the center of the Star Wars galaxy (presumably the live action T.V. series Lucas was working on would have been included as well), the extended universe novels happen in a ring outside the movies, and many of the comics, things like the little kid books, and T.V. shows happen in an outer rim (some of the comics do have greater story significance and apparently happen alongside the EU books).

I thought Lucas's approach worked well, if all someone did was watch the movies that was all they needed to enjoy them; but with Disney's/Lucasfilm's approach they risk alienating people if those people think they have to track down this book or that episode of a TV series to understand what's going on. I don't think the spoiler in SOLO does this, but it is bound to leave plenty of people puzzled.

[mr.negativity]

[Henry88]

now this sound a lot better if it is ture.

[lhb412]

I don't think there's any bigger culprit for Solo's less-than-steller box office performance than the timing for it's release. Star Wars has had a good thing going by synching up with the holiday season these last three years. Seeing the new Star Wars has become a go-to family event in December, and it places the new line of merchandising right at the buyingest time of the year. What's more, these side story movies have essentially become appetizers to hold us over until the main courses of the episodes. It makes sense for this morsel to be thrown out between the two year wait for the next entree. The next episode may be far away, but we can look forward to this thing - and once that thing is past now it's time to get hyped about the new episode. This was an appetizer thrown out a couple of months after a main course. It makes no sense.

I mean, you can say 'but Marvel does it' and I think it's apples and oranges. Sure, Marvel films are often similar in structure and tone, but they're thought of as separate series inside of an over-arching uber-series. You can have Iron Man appear in many Marvel movies, but if you released two Iron Man movies a few months apart I think similar burnout would also be a problem. Even though these Star Wars movies are set in different eras and have different characters Star Wars is seen an one, singular series.

[Benjamin Haines]

^ All of that is true..... but I think the biggest reason why Solo is wiping out at the box office is just the fact that it's a "Young Han Solo" movie starring Not Harrison Ford.


Personally, I like the Star Wars movies but I'm not interested in seeing Solo at all. Ron Howard is a skilled director and I'm sure he turned out a coherent work of popcorn entertainment but I fundamentally do not care about the core concept of this movie. I rolled my eyes when Disney announced it three years ago and nothing has made me any more interested since then. It seems that I'm not alone.


The Force Awakens, Rogue One, and The Last Jedi were all huge hits because they drew in general audiences as well as the Star Wars faithful. Solo is the first Star Wars movie to play almost exclusively to the fan base.

[Rodanex]

I have absolutely no interest in Solo. I think I'm kind of done with Disney star wars, to be honest. I think the Star Wars universe is limited, to be honest. I really don't see how they're going to crank out a Star Wars movie every year without people eventually getting tired of the whole thing.

[O.Supreme]

[Benjamin Haines]

[lhb412]

I think making the side story movies digging into SW lore is unsustainable and unfulfilling. I dug the tone of Solo, but couldn't help thinking that I'd rather they made a movie set in the Star Wars universe with this tone but about original characters.



Like, you could have made a movie about the seedy criminal underbelly that sprang up underneath the Empire's reign between episodes III and IV, but instead have it about something else, like two childhood friends (romantic interests?) who end up on either side of a galactic gang war and maybe Han, Chewie, and Lando show up in smallish roles as background characters. Something like that. Make those new characters and their situation really interesting and intriguing instead of repeating the prequels' mistake of 'lets explain where that thing you already love came from.'

[lhb412]

So, Kelly Marie Tran has quit social media because of constant abuse from SW fans. Daisy Ridley did the same years ago. SW fans helped ruin Jake Lloyd's life, relentlessly bullied Hayden Christiansen and George Lucas and now Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson... are there any I'm forgetting?

[canofhumdingers]

[O.Supreme]

[klen7]

^ i think one of the big differences these days is that social media has made it a lot more pervasive. Imagine your phone constantly alerting you of notifications of people saying you suck or threatening you. At least when we were kids the bullying stayed on the school bus and playground. These days if you are on social media it can follow you everywhere and hit you at your low points, not just when you are expecting it.

[mr.negativity]

[O.Supreme]

[lhb412]

[jellydonut25]

I used to think Godzilla fans might be the worst...and in some ways they still KINDA are. There's probably no other fanbase that latches onto rumors, faux 'celebs,' unofficial sources, misinformation, and general nonsense the way this fandom does. It's been almost 60 years and there are still quite a few people who think King Kong vs Godzilla had a different ending in the Japanese version. People in this fandom will ask guys who've drawn pictures for comics/magazines about their opinions and take those things as gospel truth. It's a pitfall that comes with being a fan of an ultimately niche foreign product, I suppose, but it can be extremely frustrating.


Still, that doesn't hold a candle to Star Wars fans. I don't think anything does. Even DC fans, who've shown some ugly faces recently, aren't up (down?) to that level. Their anger is always projected OUTWARDS, away from their chosen franchise/fandom and at others.
Star Wars fans dress like KKK Storm Troopers and threaten the lives of the people involved in their franchise. They send directors death threats and claim they're owed apologies for not seeing enough white representation in the franchise.
Ridley and Tran deleting their social media account is less about being sad due to being bullied and more about not wanting to give these nightmarish people a place to spew their rancid rhetoric. Yeah, they'll still shout it, but not in front of the types of numbers that would follow Daisy Ridley online.

What a rotting cesspool Star Wars is turning out to be, and with each subsequent movie turning me off to the franchise on its own more and more, the combined might of its disgusting fans has me primed to just shut myself off to its nonsense and only focus on the three movies I enjoy, despite their now diminished significance and singularity.

[Rodanex]

I remember when they first announced Disney was continuing the Star Wars franchise, my first thought was "where do you go with the story?" And unfortunately, all they've really done with it is rehash the original trilogy. Surface details are different, but at the fundamental core, it's a story about an empire lead by a dark side force-user fighting a civil war against rebels who are helped by a young, inexperienced jedi. I can't help but feel like the Star Wars universe is inherently limited; I just don't know that there's enough to sustain Disney's plan of making a Star Wars movie every year until the end of time. Eventually it's going to get stale, and people are going to get tired of it. Personally, I'm already there.