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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:03 am

I borderline consider the Fox X-Men movies to be standalones, similar in "continuity" as the Showa Godzilla films.

In their willingness to jump around timelines and yet keep the cast (relatively) the same, they're among the most comic book-y things out there. Ain't nobody age in a comic book.
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X-Men: Dark Phoenix The Grim & Gritty Version

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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:19 pm

That's a bad trailer.
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby O.Supreme » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:19 pm

Let me know when the movie comes out, and someone has cam-ripped the Quicksilver slowdown sequence to Smells like Teen Spirit.
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby Gentleman » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:42 pm

It's unfortunate that Fox went ahead with the Dark Phoenix storyline before Marvel gets the rights back. I'd have faith Disney could do the story well, but Fox's X-record is spotty. For what it's worth, I'm going with cautious optimism. They only really bungled Apocalypse. First Class was better than good and DoFP was fantastic.
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:19 pm

I have a hard time judging Sophie Turner as a morose deadpan actress when she's basically only ever done one thing, and it calls specifically for her to be morose and deadpan.

She's not enough of a character in Apocalypse to judge, so the only thing we have to go on is GOT, which doesn't really have much place for her character to be anything but a downer.
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:01 pm

Caring about a Jean we hardly know is definitely tough, but especially after seeing 2 GotG films, Ragnarok, Infinity War etc..., I'm still baffled why FOX feels they have to go straight to Dark Phoenix again. How about the amazing story of JUST The Phoenix, all the crazy space aliens, and intergalactic empires, and Jean as the Phoenix saves the galaxy as we know it. Why can't we get that film?
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby The Shadow » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:17 pm

I think a big part of why not is because of Bryan Singer -- his vision for the X-Men movies continues to dominate the films. From the beginning, Singer's vision for the X-Men movies has continually been things can not be too spectacular, too incredible, too much like the comics the movies are adapting. The mutants' powers can't be to amazing on screen (IE Storm can't fly), costumes gotta be "more real" (as if running around in leather pants and jackets is going to be either comfortable or stealthy), I don't think the Sentinels were all that much like their comic book counterparts is I recall correctly.

And now that the movies are getting around to the Phoenix again, it's not the Phoenix Force and the incredible space opera story about the PF from the comics. Rather, we get a retread of what we saw in X3 -- Jean Grey is just a mutating mutant, IE Grey is to mutants as mutants are to normal people. I suppose you can make the movie work okay like that, but I think it's a major loss to divorce the story from the cosmic entity that is Phoenix Force.

Just my opinion, but this movie really should have been the initial Phoenix Force story and looked a whole lot like a Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
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Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix The Last Stand 2

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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby lhb412 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:22 pm

X-Men feels stuck in the era the first movie came out.
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:44 pm

Gambit actually is enjoying a bit of a resurgence in the comics right now. Plus, given how beholden all the movies and most of the other media and fans are to the 90s iterations of the characters, it's actually surprising there hasn't been more done with Gambit.
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Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix The Grim & Gritty Version

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Re: “R.I.P. The X-Men Movie Universe — 2000 - 2019”

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Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix The Last Stand

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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

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Re: Dark Phoenix The Grim & Gritty Version

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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:43 am

16% on RT and most reviews are praising Sophie Turner. You know your movie is garbage when Turner is the highlight of the film.
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

Postby O.Supreme » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:35 pm

As anticipated, and sad to say, I'm actually glad. DoFP ending is all I needed. Hopefully in a few years Disney will do it right. I still remember back in 2000, sitting in a full theater when Cyclops' jab at the comics came on *what'd you expect, Yellow Spandex?" --and there was an audible YES form several people in the theater, including myself.

These bad films certainly don't undo the good entries. But, for sure, this is the first film franchise I feel no need to complete, simply for the sake of having them all on home media, or even watching them all.
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Re: Simon Kinberg's Dark Phoenix

Postby mr.negativity » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:42 pm


Dark Phoenix May Have All-Time Worst X-Men Box Office Opening


Dark Phoenix Has The Worst Rotten Tomatoes Score of Any X-Men Movie


Dark Phoenix's Ending Sets Up A Final X-Men Movie That Will Never Happen


Simon Kinberg Likens Dark Phoenix's Original Ending to Captain America: Civil War and Captain Marvel



Box Office: 'Dark Phoenix' Flies to Mediocre $5M in Previews
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Re: The X-Men Movie Universe

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