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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Gentleman » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:44 pm

At first I loved the fact that the Crisis was bringing back so many classic DC actors. Burt Ward, Robert Wuhl and Michael Keaton (sort of), cast members of old shows like Birds of Prey and Smallville. But the more I think about it the less excited I am, because it's most likely that those characters and the worlds they inhabit are not likely to have happy endings.

Here's hoping that I'm wrong.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:24 am

Gentleman wrote:At first I loved the fact that the Crisis was bringing back so many classic DC actors. Burt Ward, Robert Wuhl and Michael Keaton (sort of), cast members of old shows like Birds of Prey and Smallville. But the more I think about it the less excited I am, because it's most likely that those characters and the worlds they inhabit are not likely to have happy endings.

Here's hoping that I'm wrong.


Well I thought it was a given that most of these cameos are meant to be there just for fanservice and nothing more.

I haven't even started watching Arrow or Flash this season yet. I just have no motivation to watch them. I dropped Supergirl in Season 3, Black Lightning in Season 2, and I will never give Batwoman a chance as I'm tired of Batman characters.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby mr.negativity » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:38 pm

Screen Rant:
Crisis On Infinite Earths Really DID Try To Get Nicolas Cage's Superman
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dai » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:53 am

After looking forward to this all year, I just found out that I won't be able to watch all of it. Batwoman hasn't been picked up by anyone in the UK, so that slice of the crossover won't be broadcast here. I can't even buy the episode on Amazon. :x
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby XvGojira » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:30 pm

mr.negativity wrote:Screen Rant:
Crisis On Infinite Earths Really DID Try To Get Nicolas Cage's Superman


Maaaaaaan, that would have been damn great, in book.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:10 pm

Dai wrote:After looking forward to this all year, I just found out that I won't be able to watch all of it. Batwoman hasn't been picked up by anyone in the UK, so that slice of the crossover won't be broadcast here. I can't even buy the episode on Amazon. :x


So they're not going to show you Part 2 because it's a Batwoman episode? That makes no sense. Too bad there isn't a place called the internet where you can download stuff from, huh?

Anyway, less than 2 hours, I hope it doesn't disappoint.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:30 am

All right, Crisis is FINALLY here and the first part was... okay.

First off, too much exposition about what has been happening with Supergirl. Like okay, apparently something happened between Alex and Lena, I get it. They don't have to tell me that every 30 seconds Lena is on screen. What I do want to know is why the hell Jimmy and Wynn are not there. Like I know Wynn left the show, but they still should have had him show up for this event. They also didn't tell me who the masked girl in blue was. Why is Brainiac 5 still using that stupid ass "chameleon skin" thing? Why can't he just be Brainiac 5 since apparently aliens are living on the planet or something? How about less talky talk and more action? For their world about to be deleted, they sure had a lot of down time to talk about their feelings.

The one thing I thought they had stopped doing with these crossovers is making the crossover feel like it was self contained to that one specific show. Crisis on Earth X and Elseworlds felt like they were a big event. Here, I felt like it was a Supergirl episode that just happens to have a crossover event happening like The Invasion did a few year's ago.

When we finally do get to see the heroes being heroes all they get to do is fight CGI'd ghosts? What the hell is that? We are going to have actual villains in this show right? Maybe it's because I haven't read it in like 10 years, but I don't remember there being ghosts at all times.

Oh, so Nash, or Pariah, accidentally let the Anti-Monitor out from that underground tunnel in Central City? That's great, just real great. Nice going Nash. Maybe next time DON'T open a wall with alien hieroglyphics? Just saying.

The opening bit of seeing various Earths was pretty awesome despite the names of the universes not being all that original. That was cool to see Knox from the first Burton Batman movie. Of course they had to have Burt Ward say some lame ass line, but at least his delivery was hilarious. I'm going to guess the one world was from the Titans show, right? At least, Emo Robin looked like it and I could feel the edginess of the show coming out of my TV screen.

Moving as many humans as possible to another Earth? Who do they think they are, the Ultimates? :lol

Wait, why does Batwoman recognize Supergirl but no one else?

Oliver's "death" seemed extremely rushed. Maybe they could chopped off the boring talk between Supergirl and Superman on the DEO balcony and actually showed Oliver's climatic battle and then had a nice death scene? Also, if he's supposed to dead, why is he blinking?

I did love the swirling camera for the fight against the ghosts. That was very cool. Too bad the music couldn't make that battle feel as energetic as the camera work did.

Overall, I guess my hype levels were a little too high as I was expecting with all of the dramatic build up over the last 8 weeks to lead into something that was going to finally focus more on the super heroing aspect as opposed to the dramatic bits. Hopefully the Anti-Monitor actually shows up in the next episode.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby mr.negativity » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:36 pm

Dr Kain I agree with everything in your review.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:48 pm

Dai wrote:After looking forward to this all year, I just found out that I won't be able to watch all of it. Batwoman hasn't been picked up by anyone in the UK, so that slice of the crossover won't be broadcast here. I can't even buy the episode on Amazon. :x


That is hilarious, but not surprising as Batwoman is the absolute epitome of the dumpster fire these shows have become. The nostalgia of the crisis event is strong for sure, but then I still remember they ARE episodes of these shows, and I'm better off for having moved on.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:14 am

This part was a vast improvement over last nights. I never felt bored and it felt more like a team thing than an individual series happening. I loved Sarah's breaking the fourth wall moment of saying she promised the rest of the team they would never have to do another crossover. The alternate Earth's Waverider with Captain Cold's voice as the computer was priceless. Makes me hope he actually returns to Flash so we can get some real villains again.

Was that supposed to be an alternate version of Jonah Hex? If so, that sucks that he got relegated to being some villainous rapist instead of the honorable despot he is supposed to be.

Brandon Routh killed it as his version of Superman and I really loved the scene when they were comparing Ray and that version of Clark. The fight between the two Supermans was cool.

It was interesting to see Kevin Conroy play what would be Zack Snyder's Batman if the man had been allowed to continue his reign of terror over the movies.

On the other hand, the scene with the Clark who somehow gave up his powers went on for too long. I get he is supposed to be from a previous TV series or something, but other universes they brought actors back for had scenes last 20 seconds, so they could have shaved off a minute or two from this one.

Not sure how I feel about this version of Lex. Something just seems off about him. Maybe it's the beard, but I just don't see Lex Luthor.

Always great to see Constantine. No one will ever be good enough to replace Matt Ryan.

The Anti-Monitor looks a lot better on screen than he did in the photos. At least, due to the lighting in the hallway. It could change. No idea why he is summoning Harbinger though, that honor should go to Psycho Pirate.

Sadly, there was nothing special about the camera work at all this episode, though, that could just be due to how little there was in action scenes outside of the Superman fight.

I do hope there is something WOW inducing in tomorrow's part though.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:27 pm

Screen Rant:
Crisis On Infinite Earths: Original Superman Movies ARE Arrowverse Canon
JOHN ORQUIOLA wrote:In Crisis On Infinite Earths, Brandon Routh's debut as Kingdom Come Superman proved the theory that Superman movies from 1979-2006 are now Arrowverse canon.


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Crisis On Infinite Earths Confirms Titans, Batman 66 & 89 As Arrowverse Canon

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Crisis On Infinite Earths Reveals What Happened To Smallville's Superman
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Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:55 pm

Technically every DC medium is cannon with the Arrowverse considering they are all on alternate Earths.
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Re: Greg Berlanti's DCTV Universe

Postby Dr Kain » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:15 am

So that was Part 3... Eh...

Another crossover comment, hilarious.

I did like the 90s Flash taking CW Flash's place even though we all figured that was going to happen. It gives some closure to the 90s show.

Where the friggin hell is Psycho Pirate? He's supposed to be a major player in this story.

Black Lightning was a complete waste of time. He had no proper introduction, had like a minute of development, and then that was it. Such crap.

That was cool to see Lucifer even though I've never watched the show.

Thank the gods Constantine mentioned that Jim Corrigan is NOT the right Corrigan. I really hope we see Spectre in the next part.

For being an episode of Flash, it sure feels like Flash is still getting the least amount of screen time compared to the other main heroes.

Monitor returning Cisco's powers made him getting rid of them last season utterly pointless. Just another retcon that shows how garbage the show has become.

Great, another plain clothes super hero. Yay...

Lex taking Sup's place? Okay, that's a very Lex thing to do. If only I cared about this version of Lex.

Seriously, where the hell is Psycho Pirate?

So wiping out Earth 1 just made the entire Earth 38 transport utterly pointless. So glad we spent 15 minutes on that plot point in Part 1 for nothing.

So far I have to say there is nothing in this story that has been WOWing me at all. Fanservice is pretty much all of it has going for it and that's not enough after the grandiose crossover that was Crisis on Earth X.
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