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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - Endgame 12/20/19

Postby mr.negativity » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:42 pm

FORBES FEB 06, 2019:
'Episode IX' Is The Lame Duck In Disney's 'Star Wars' Saga

Screen Rant Feb 25, 2019:
Star Wars 9 Is Already Getting Review Bombed On Rotten Tomatoes
DAN ZINSKI wrote:Star Wars 9 doesn’t come out for ten more months, but commenters are already review bombing the movie on Rotten Tomatoes. Planned as the final chapter of the current Star Wars trilogy, Episode IX is expected to wrap up the long-running Skywalker saga. How exactly that wrap-up will play out with Luke having died in The Last Jedi, and Carrie Fisher having passed way in real life, is anybody’s guess right now.

With Star Wars 9 still months away from hitting theaters, toxic fans are already at it again on the movie’s Rotten Tomatoes page, attempting to torpedo the film’s audience rating by posting negative comments. Of course, none of the commenters in question have seen the movie, and Rotten Tomatoes has not as yet calculated an actual audience score. Many of the comments actually focus on lingering negativity over The Last Jedi, which was itself subjected to an organized campaign of Rotten Tomatoes trolling in an effort to hurt its score. Despite the campaign, The Last Jedi still went on to gross $1.3 billion at the global box office.

Such score-manipulating campaigns, often launched via forums like 4chan or through Facebook pages, have become an unfortunate part of the movie going culture in recent years. Already in 2019, trolls have launched an attack on Captain Marvel, which is a natural target for some thanks to its female lead and obvious empowerment themes. Last year, Black Panther was subjected to a similar effort to torpedo its Rotten Tomatoes score, but trolls failed to put a dent in enthusiasm for the movie which went on to gross $1.3 billion at the box office while scoring six Oscar nominations including one for Best Picture.


/film Saturday, February 23rd, 2019:
J.J. Abrams Talks Wrapping ‘Star Wars Episode 9’, Bringing Back Lando Calrissian & More
Ethan Anderton wrote:Following the release of Star Wars: The Last Jedi, some fans have been rather aggressively outspoken against what director Rian Johnson did with the franchise. When asked whether that reaction determined where Abrams went with Episode 9, the director said:
“I think every movie is its own movie. Obviously this is a trilogy. We brought to that movie all the passion and hard work we would have no matter what. I think the story speaks for itself. I really, truly can’t wait for you to see it.”


Fine, let’s wrap this up. Since this is the end of the third Star Wars trilogy. How does this compare to the other trilogy-closing chapters? Is there one word he can use to describe how he wants us to feel after we walk out of theaters this December?
“You’ll have to determine that yourself. There are a lot of words that we all hope you’ll feel, and I think the biggest and most important one is ‘satisfied.'”
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - Endgame 12/20/19

Postby mr.negativity » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:00 pm

COLLIDER FEBRUARY 26, 2019:
Rotten Tomatoes to No Longer Allow Fan Comments or Reviews Prior to a Movie’s Release
ADAM CHITWOOD wrote:Rotten Tomatoes is rolling out a series of new initiatives aimed at “elevating the voice of fans” and “increasing data relevance,” but one of these changes is very clearly a movement against trolls trying to take advantage of the system. Over the last couple of years, it’s become commonplace for “fans” who have yet to see a movie to enact a negging campaign designed to bring down the film’s audience scores prior to release. The Ghostbusters “fans” did this by downvoting the trailer for Paul Feige’s female-led reboot, Marvel Studios “fans” intentionally tried to tank the Rotten Tomatoes score of Black Panther, and just recently a small group of devoted misogynists targeted Captain Marvel’s Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score, bringing it down to 40% despite the fact that—aside from critics—no one has seen the movie yet. I wOnDer WhAt ThE cOmMoN dEnoMiNaToR bEtWeEn ThEsE mOvIeS cOuLd Be.

Today, Rotten Tomatoes announced a series of changes to its system, one of which is removing the option for fans to leave comments or reviews on a movie before its release. Here’s the full list of changes:

    * Streamlined user interface that positions the Audience Score adjacent to the Tomatometer Score, which represents the collective opinions of thousands of professional critics, giving fans easy access to compare and contrast critic’s and fan’s view of movies and TV shows.

    * Prior to a movie’s release, fans will no longer be able to leave written comments or reviews. That functionality will be available once the movie releases into theaters.

    * The fan “want to see” score, which was previously represented as a percentage, will now be presented as a raw number that will be tallied in real time. This change seeks to eliminate the confusion that sometimes occurred between the “want to see” score and the “audience score” which is also represented as a percentage.

    * Throughout the roll out of new audience rating features, Rotten Tomatoes will call out enhancements on the site and link to a product update blog, where users can find explanations.

These are positive steps, and I honestly don’t know why “fans” were able to leave reviews on a movie’s page before its release in the first place. Toxicity has become a serious problem in fandom over the last few years, and while it’s fine for folks to disagree, these targeted negative attacks that take advantage of systems that are meant to foster good-faith discussion amongst fans are insane and entirely unfair.

So yeah, good riddance.


Screen Rant March 08, 2019:
Matt Smith Says He Is NOT In Star Wars 9

We Got This Covered 03/07/19:
Mark Hamill Hints That Luke Only Has A Small Cameo In Star Wars: Episode IX
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - J.J. vs Rian vs Colin

Postby mr.negativity » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:21 pm

Making Star Wars March 27, 2019:
Star Wars: Episode IX retail poster and character sheets leak revealing names, ships, and more!
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Screen Rant:
Rian Johnson Doesn't Care If Star Wars 9 Retcons Last Jedi


Screen Rant:
JJ Abrams Admits Rian Johnson Took Star Wars 8 In A Different Direction


COLLIDER:
J.J. Abrams Says He Initially Turned Down ‘Star Wars 9’; Talks Picking Up After ‘The Last Jedi’
Abrams confirmed he started from scratch and tossed Colin Trevorrow's script.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - Endgame 12/20/19

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Re: STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER 12/20/19

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:00 pm

Sorry, this may be a bit pre-mature, but I gotta be that guy for a minute

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so neither the first Death Star, nor the 2nd blew up near any planet with a large body of water...How do we get that last scene...??
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Re: STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER 12/20/19

Postby mr.negativity » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:43 am

O.Supreme wrote:Sorry, this may be a bit pre-mature, but I gotta be that guy for a minute

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so neither the first Death Star, nor the 2nd blew up near any planet with a large body of water...How do we get that last scene...??

^The Force!

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Henry88 wrote:really like the emperor's cackling at the end of that trailer


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JJ Abrams Confirms Palpatine's Return in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker


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Re: STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER 12/20/19

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Re: STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER 12/20/19

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:55 am

I wasn't a fan of The Last Jedi. Mostly, I thought it was boring, but I also wasn't a fan of the way it seemed determined less to tell its own story than it did to just crap on EVERY loose plot thread and twist from The Force Awakens. I know the reasons some of that happened (ie, there is no plan for this trilogy and they've been fumbling along in the dark without any real idea of where they're headed as they rushed into trying to cash-in on their Star Wars investment before thinking about what they should do in terms of storytelling), but TLJ is subversion for the sake of subversion...

...HOWEVER...

...there were a few things in it I REALLY liked, and those seemed to be the few ACTUAL IDEAS Rian Johnson brought to the table. Chief among them being the general theme that Star Wars isn't just for the destined or about the Skywalkers. Rey is a nobody and the kid at the end holding the broom could be the next great Jedi if he's willing to unlock his potential and believe in The Force. I really love that idea. Even though Luke is Vader's son, I always felt while watching the original trilogy that anyone who's open to it could become a Jedi, and that's a huge part of the charm. You could be Luke. I could be. The guy next to us. Whatever. Then the prequels came along and felt like they plowed that under and even The Force Awakens, which I liked and felt like it was kind of hitting the reset button and getting us away from the prequel storytelling, still was pretty Skywalker obsessed. TLJ casts that aside and brings it all back to everyone.


The title of this movie itself seems to crap all over that notion. I thought it was a joke. Seriously. I went onto my phone on Saturday and saw, "Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker trailer here!" and thought "ha! someone did a fan trailer based off how everyone hated what the previous movie did to Luke? This will either be a funny satire or a desperate attempt to 'fix' Star Wars by some dumb fans. Let's check it out."

And then I watched the trailer itself and I swear, I thought the whole thing was a MASSIVE gag of some kind.

Kylo Ren repairing his helmet? The Death Star? The Emperor? I laughed. I told a buddy, "Dude...this is pathetic fan wankery."

And then I realized it was LEGIT.

This entire sequel trilogy has been entirely reactionary. The Force Awakens was a reaction to the prequels, which I understood and I think we all kinda did. Then TLJ was a reaction to everyone saying that TFA was too safe. This is now a reaction to everyone saying TLJ ruined Star Wars. Each movie is defined not by itself, but by the way it undoes what immediately preceded it. What a complete waste of time.


I wasn't a fan of The Last Jedi. The only thing I think I could like WORSE (aside from like, another Attack of the Clones) is two plus hours dedicated to apologizing for it and undoing everything it did. This franchise has been a trash heap since 1997.
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Re: STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER 12/20/19

Postby klen7 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:29 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:...there were a few things in it I REALLY liked, and those seemed to be the few ACTUAL IDEAS Rian Johnson brought to the table. Chief among them being the general theme that Star Wars isn't just for the destined or about the Skywalkers. Rey is a nobody and the kid at the end holding the broom could be the next great Jedi if he's willing to unlock his potential and believe in The Force. I really love that idea. Even though Luke is Vader's son, I always felt while watching the original trilogy that anyone who's open to it could become a Jedi, and that's a huge part of the charm. You could be Luke. I could be. The guy next to us. Whatever. Then the prequels came along and felt like they plowed that under and even The Force Awakens, which I liked and felt like it was kind of hitting the reset button and getting us away from the prequel storytelling, still was pretty Skywalker obsessed. TLJ casts that aside and brings it all back to everyone.


The title of this movie itself seems to crap all over that notion. I thought it was a joke. Seriously. I went onto my phone on Saturday and saw, "Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker trailer here!" and thought "ha! someone did a fan trailer based off how everyone hated what the previous movie did to Luke? This will either be a funny satire or a desperate attempt to 'fix' Star Wars by some dumb fans. Let's check it out."

And then I watched the trailer itself and I swear, I thought the whole thing was a MASSIVE gag of some kind.

Kylo Ren repairing his helmet? The Death Star? The Emperor? I laughed. I told a buddy, "Dude...this is pathetic fan wankery."

And then I realized it was LEGIT.

This entire sequel trilogy has been entirely reactionary. The Force Awakens was a reaction to the prequels, which I understood and I think we all kinda did. Then TLJ was a reaction to everyone saying that TFA was too safe. This is now a reaction to everyone saying TLJ ruined Star Wars. Each movie is defined not by itself, but by the way it undoes what immediately preceded it. What a complete waste of time.

I think this echoes my thoughts. Basically this looks like it tosses everything good about TLJ and doubles down on the TFA approach to almost a level of parody. I also thought the title was a fan joke when I first saw it.

There's a generation of kids that love the prequels, and there will be a generation of kids that love the sequels, but the original trilogy was my childhood, so thats my Star Wars and as much as I want to share that with my kid, given the choice 10 out of 10 times she will want to watch "the ones with Rey", so for better or worse the saga continues
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Re: STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER 12/20/19

Postby O.Supreme » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:15 pm

Don't worry... because no one's ever really gone... :wink:

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