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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Dai » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:53 pm

It's a shame that the new jaegers lack the distinctive silhouettes of the originals, since that and the faster, smoother movement makes them look like Bayformers clones. Aside from that, the movie looks like good fun.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Gwangi » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:57 pm

The one good thing I can say is that it does have more daylight scenes. However, what bothers me most, (and not just in this), is that we keep seeing these enormous things (be it jaeger or kaiju) move with lightning speed. Gone are the days where Haruo Nakajima or Ray Harryhausen are at zoos studying the movements of animals to get a certain realistic aspect for their monsters' flow. It seems like today's effects guys are studying the movements of Speedy Gonzales!
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Mac » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:41 pm

lhb412 wrote:Without GDT's layer or grit and steampunk eleborations, coupled with the blue skies... it looks like Ultraman.


Insulting to Taguchi's work on Ultraman tbh.

Not much to say, saw this in front of Blade Runner, will echo the comments that this basically looks like a cartoon. Everything is moving at lightning speed, and stark daylight isn't flattering to CGI.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:48 pm

Gwangi wrote:The one good thing I can say is that it does have more daylight scenes. However, what bothers me most, (and not just in this), is that we keep seeing these enormous things (be it jaeger or kaiju) move with lightning speed. Gone are the days where Haruo Nakajima or Ray Harryhausen are at zoos studying the movements of animals to get a certain realistic aspect for their monsters' flow. It seems like today's effects guys are studying the movements of Speedy Gonzales!

The first movie wisely avoided it. Everything moved with a heft that felt true to size.

This one? Typical weightless cheap looking CGI.
The suits look cheaper, the green screening looks cheaper...it looks like they slashed the budget from the first in half.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Gargantuan Gargantua » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:09 pm

The camera movements felt forced. That kind of smooth/fast movement is meant for a Pixar movie. Some shots the Jaegers move too quickly. Some shots they don't. I think the monsters look great though. Personally I am tired of night time scenes and I am happy we get a day fight. I'm not expecting much but I am still excited to see it. I just hope it isn't all 100% action. That will get old quick.

Also the Jaeger on Jaeger thing isn't my cup of tea. Transformers has done that to the point of nausea and would prefer if they kept it more Kaiju oriented.

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I think the Kaiju look dope as "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!".
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby The Shadow » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:33 pm

The trailer looked pretty great, but oh the trailer music just stomps all over the trailer itself. Congratulations Universal, I do believe you have taken the crown for Worst Music In a Trailer from 20th Century Fox & Murder on the Orient Express.

I don't believe the Jaeger vs. Jaeger battles are quite what they seem. Early on I believe GDT mentioned when Geiszler drifted with the kaiju brain that
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like with a human to human Drift, the connection goes two ways and the creators of the kaiju got a peek into Geiszler's mind
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As the above potential spoiler seems to have continued through the development from Maelstrom to Uprising then the Jaegers the heroes are fighting may not be true Jaegers but rather
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Henry88 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:35 pm

to quote jaws 4 "all it ever is complain complain", the movie itself looks it will be a ton of fun.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:26 pm

Henry88 wrote:to quote jaws 4 "all it ever is complain complain", the movie itself looks it will be a ton of fun.


* high five *

When we found out GDT was no longer steering this ship the worst thing that could've happened would if someone decided to play it as overly serious slog. I'm happy they've leaned into the cartoony nature of it all. The first movie is a popcorn masterpiece, in my opinion, and this one may not be a masterpiece but I'm fully expected to have a lot of fun.

As for the jaegers moving too fast/smooth/not seeming as heavy: I expected this from the beginning. In the special features for the first movie you see how GDT inspected every piece of animation at all stages of completion and was constantly pointing at bits they were doing and telling the animators "slower!" "heavier!" etc.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:43 pm

Disappointed Mako didn't get to speak in the trailer.

Not disappointed in Mako's awesome wardrobe.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Geno » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:50 pm

This is one I'm gonna save for the 5 dollar tuesdays or redbox. Kinda disappointing, looks like television tokusatsu in comparison to the original.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Henry88 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:59 pm

the only disappointment is the growing amount of growing cynicism about this movie.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:42 pm

Henry88 wrote:the only disappointment is the growing amount of growing cynicism about this movie.


Most everything online is cynicism. Hold tight to your unironic enthusiasm.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby Henry88 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:02 pm

lhb412 wrote:
Henry88 wrote:the only disappointment is the growing amount of growing cynicism about this movie.


Most everything online is cynicism. Hold tight to your unironic enthusiasm.


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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby jellydonut25 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:47 am

I’m still on board and think it could be fun.

But the effects suck.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:07 am

^Well, it is like 5 months out, so who knows to what degree the animation is finished.

Hey, does anyone remember back in the day when PJ's King Kong was drastically redesigned from how he appeared in the first trailer?
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby mrbluehair » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:15 pm

I'm with Henry 88 on this one The only thing guarantee on these forms anymore of his people want to complain about every little thing. I for one think this is going to be totally fun movie and it's exactly what it should be a fun movie. I love the first one and maybe this one is a little too transformers/Power Rangers for some, butif I was a kid I would go nuts for this movie. Everybody complained about how there is too much dark too much rain too much is too much that the last movie, this one has the exact opposite and everybody's complaining anyway. This isn'tShakespeare in tthis is a "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" giant monsters fighting giant robots fighting other giant robots destroying cities. At least with their designs you can see what they're doing is supposed to have the stuff that's in the Transformers movie.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby The Shadow » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:41 pm

Sometimes I think the core of all the complaints about Pacific Rim (and now at least part of the complaints against P-R Uprising ) is that these two movies embody the idea of films as entertainment first. And really it's not just PR and PR:U, there are many such movies (and even shows).

Guillermo Del Toro and the rest the team that made Pacific Rim are not trying to sell us anything, they don't have an social agenda to push, they aren't making Oscar bait. PR is movie made because it's F-U-N fun, to watch people pilot super robots and fight & win against the giant monsters that are attacking humanity. And for some reason it seems like professional reviewers (and those following after them) have a difficult time with the concept of people enjoying watching a movie that doesn't have some sort of agenda behind it, that aren't trying tell people that they are an A,B, & C type of person for reasons X,Y, & Z.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:47 pm

^ I'd argue that the movies do have an agenda, but it's very simple and sentimental and uncynical. The idea of all of humanity teaming up heroically. GDT said he wanted a movie where the world saves the world, instead of America saving the world or some lone chosen one or whatever. DeKnight even made a point at the panel to say that anyone can pilot a jeager and save the world, regardless of race or sexual oriention.

Our culture, especially online culture, has a cynical streak that makes it not know how to deal with something rather silly and sincere.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:40 pm

... also, if I hear anyone say PacRim is an Eva ripoff again I'm just gonna start singing the Mazinger Z theme at them.

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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby mr.negativity » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:44 am

lhb412 wrote:... also, if I hear anyone say PacRim is an Eva ripoff again I'm just gonna start singing the Mazinger Z theme at them.

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NYCC ’17 Exclusive: Director Steven S. DeKnight On PACIFIC RIM: UPRISING’s New Kaiju
MICHAEL GINGOLD wrote:One of the most hotly anticipated films previewed at this weekend’s New York Comic-Con is Pacific Rim: Uprising, the sequel to Guillermo del Toro’s epic about the war between human-piloted robot Jaegers and invading alien-spawned Kaiju. Director Steven S. DeKnight, taking over the helm from del Toro, and cast members John Boyega, Scott Eastwood, Cailee Spaeny and Burn Gorman debuted the new trailer, which offered a good look at some of the new mechanized fighters. But what of the monsters they face?

The titanic beasts in the first Pacific Rim seemed more inspired by the menagerie from Daiei’s Gamera films, with their physically outrageous designs, than Toho’s Godzilla stable, which were largely based on recognizable prehistoric animals and insects. In a one-on-one chat with this writer, DeKnight says that the Kaiju of Uprising fall “right in the middle, really. We wanted to have some basis in the real world, but not be completely constricted to it. That’ll come across the more you see of the Kaiju. With some of them, you’ll say, ‘Oh, yeah, that kind of looks like this,’ and then there are others where it’s like, ‘What the hell is that?!’

“We were very cautious in the designs,” he continues, “and the team behind them was fantastic. Some of the early concepts were so out there, you didn’t quite know what you were looking at, and I always wanted for you to be able to look at a Kaiju and be very clear: ‘OK, there’s a head, legs, tail,’ if they have a tail, just so you understand what you’re looking at. And then when it came to the details of the creatures, we went a little crazy.”

Set for release March 23, 2018 by Universal, Pacific Rim: Uprising was produced, like its predecessor, by Legendary Pictures. That company is also behind the “MonsterVerse” franchise that has brought new incarnations of Godzilla and King Kong to the screen, with more giant-monster favorites to come. Which leads to the burning question: What are the chances that we’re going to see a big-screen crossover between the two universes?

“There’s always a chance; that’s totally up to them and the fans,” DeKnight says. “More than anything, it’s up to the fans, if they want it. I think that would be a great idea. I would love to see those worlds collide, and it’s definitely a possibility. The plan for what we’re setting up with this movie, and hopefully the next one, could one day lead to that crossover.”

As of now, DeKnight is signed to helm the third Pacific Rim film, should the response to Uprising warrant one. “In the world of Hollywood, who knows, with schedules and whatever, but I would love to come back for the next movie,” he says. “I love the world and the actors, and it’s been a joy so far.”

He also notes that one character who does not return in Uprising, but could come back for a subsequent sequel, is Ron Perlman’s Hannibal Chau, last seen cutting his way out of a Kaiju’s guts at the very end of the first film. “We tried to get Ron into Uprising,” DeKnight reveals, “but due to schedules and whatnot, nothing quite worked. I really, really hope, if I do a third movie, that Ron’s available, and I can get him to do it, because I would love to have him back. I’ve never actually met Ron, but I’m a huge admirer of his work.”
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby lhb412 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:09 pm

So happy to hear notes of the original movie theme in the opening of the trailer. Love that music.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby The Shadow » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:29 pm

Ramin Djawadi's score for Pacific Rim is great, the only news that disappointed me about PR:U was that Djawadi was not doing the score for it too.
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:23 am

The Shadow wrote:Ramin Djawadi's score for Pacific Rim is great, the only news that disappointed me about PR:U was that Djawadi was not doing the score for it too.

Every piece of news on this movie gives me less and less excitement.

I'm just sad with a little raincloud over my head now... :cry:
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby The Shadow » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:57 am

I guess I should note that outside of watching the trailer, I haven't been actively following movie news the last 4 months or so (something I've been doing with many movies lately). I gotta ask, what are a couple recent pieces of news that fall into the bummer column?
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Re: Pacific Rim: Uprising

Postby jellydonut25 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:31 am

The Shadow wrote:I guess I should note that outside of watching the trailer, I haven't been actively following movie news the last 4 months or so (something I've been doing with many movies lately). I gotta ask, what are a couple recent pieces of news that fall into the bummer column?


Well, some of the early stuff was kinda downer: it’s happening, it isn’t, it is, it’s not...and then GDT stepping away

The Comic Con display was a more recent thing that gave me some pause. For sure I thought “They just haven’t CHI enhanced the suits yet.” But then they look every bit as bad in the trailer as in the film.

Missing out on as much of the original cast as it does makes it seem weird. No Djawidi. The teasers at Comic Con weren’t great (the one was okay the other was groan worthy). The trailer bummed me out.


I’m honestly still hoping for the best, I mean, the marketing for the original wasn’t very good either, so maybe nobody knows how to sell PacRim for whatever reason. Still gonna see it with an open mind day one.
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