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The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:54 am

I would have thought with the release of the blu-ray we would have seen a Daimajin thread pop up over here, but apparently I was wrong.

Anyway, I picked up the set recently and have watched them over the past few days.

Daimajin - this is a good movie, with some really nice work in terms of effects and shot composition and such. It falters in a couple places (specifically in - I THINK - the translation, as the little kid with the mole on his face starts calling the girl his "sis"...which she is clearly NOT. Not sure if that's a translation error or just sloppy writing), but it's an overall enjoyable film.

Return of Daimajin - This movie feels like an improvement over the previous film in every way except one: I really like the visceral feeling in the first film of the torture scene and how the guy is then hung upside down by his feet and all, you get the feeling of ruthlessness from the bad guys a lot more in that one than here, but the acting feels better, the story plays out at a faster pace, and the poetic justice at the end feels just a little more ironic. I think this was my favorite of the three films.

Daimajin Strikes Again - ehhh...I get what they were trying to do here, and I actually liked the movie, but I think this was the weakest of the three, largely due to the reliance on the child actors. The youngest kid might have been the worst child actor I've seen in any movie ever and that really hurt this movie for me...but on the plus side, it's the best majin rampage of the three films and it was cool to see him finally use his sword.


Overall, I liked these movies, but I dunno if I loved them. MAYBE the second one...but they're cool. The slow-burn feeling, the scale, it all feels novel because there's really not much else like them out there. I'd say I appreciate them for their uniqueness more than outright loving them.
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Postby The Real McCoy » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:13 am

My praise of these movies stemmed from the comparison to Daiei's other monster franchise, Gamera, in terms of quality.

Let's face it; while the Gamera movies might be a little more enjoyable (I think most of us share that sentiment), it seemed like a lot more work went into making these. After Gamera vs. Barugon, and maybe even Gyaos, it seemed like they were just f*cking around.

The Daimajin movies felt a little more solid; that more heart was put into making them in general. That was where I was coming from all along, pretty much.

Kind of like I think Godzilla (1954) is a much more well-made movie than some of the entries in that series, but I enjoy several others more.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:35 pm

good points.

yeah, the stark contrast in quality between these films and the Gamera films is pretty stunning.

hell, i wonder if these films had anything to do with the collapse of Daiei...i mean, at a time when even the Godzilla films were spending pittances on budgets, these films looked a class above all the rest, and it doesn't sound like they were ever particularly popular
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Postby The Real McCoy » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:29 am

An interesting question. But weren't they around until the late seventies/early eighties?

Anyway, it just seems like if it's not Godzilla or Gamera, and if they aren't fighting their classic foes, whoever/whatever it is doesn't do well. At the risk of sounding prejudice, could it be the general movie-going public in Japan?

One of the stories I hear a lot about is how Biollante did poorly at the box office, and wasn't critically popular. A majority of fans chocked that up to the fact that it didn't feature a classic Godzilla foe, and that's why the next three movies went back to the traditional characters.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:47 am

The Real McCoy wrote:An interesting question. But weren't they around until the late seventies/early eighties?
They filed for bankruptcy in 1971...which I guess is still 5 years after the Daimajin films...

The Real McCoy wrote:Anyway, it just seems like if it's not Godzilla or Gamera, and if they aren't fighting their classic foes, whoever/whatever it is doesn't do well. At the risk of sounding prejudice, could it be the general movie-going public in Japan?

One of the stories I hear a lot about is how Biollante did poorly at the box office, and wasn't critically popular. A majority of fans chocked that up to the fact that it didn't feature a classic Godzilla foe, and that's why the next three movies went back to the traditional characters.

well, G2000 did fine at the box office...and it features no classic foes...

but Megaguirus performed terribly...and GMK and GxMG were the two highest earners of the millenium-era, so you may have some point there.

Which honestly is bizarre to me...you'd think people would want to see something new instead of Godzilla fighting Ghidorah or Mothra or Mechagodzilla AGAIN.
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Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:03 am

I've always mentioned, when discussing Return of Daimajin, that it's too much of a retread of the first film.

Well, that's the overwhelming feeling you get when you're watching them all together, but it's been a while since I watched one and I just finished Returns - and dug the hell out of it!

Best to watch these films with space in between so you can enjoy 'em for their strengths instead of focusing on the similarities.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:36 am

The 2nd one is really a good movie if taken on it's own!
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Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:35 pm

king_ghidorah wrote:The 2nd one is really a good movie if taken on it's own!
that's pretty much how i feel. i think it was the best of the bunch, but when put alongside the first film, there's a lot of re-treading going on.
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Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:44 pm

I think the production elements of the 2nd are superior - what with the advantage of it being done before and lessons learned - but I find too many elements from the first superior: the time jump/prolonged enslavement of the people, the old witch, the spike in the head...
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:12 pm

lhb412 wrote:I think the production elements of the 2nd are superior - what with the advantage of it being done before and lessons learned - but I find too many elements from the first superior: the time jump/prolonged enslavement of the people, the old witch, the spike in the head...


Yeah, I've only watched the first two, and it's not so much the similarities that make me like the 2nd less than the first. It's just that everything in the 1st film jives so much more with what I like.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby zibbazabba » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:57 pm

I bought this set when it came out, but never got around to watching them until now. I'd seen the first 2 years ago(sometime in the seventies), and the third one several years ago.

I thought blu-ray clarity really showed off the poor blue screen work in the second movie--Special effect wise, I thought the 3rd looked the best.

Very high quality transfers in my opinion.

As far as the movies go, they were as good as when I'd seen them before, but I had never noticed what a bad actor the little kid in the 3rd movie was(as jellydonut25 mentioned). Several times when he should be sad or crying, he's smiling--almost made me laugh a couple times.

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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby lhb412 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:11 pm

^I think I'm just a bit more forgiving of that one kid being a bad actor because kids are just weird, so I just felt like he was a weird kid acting weird.

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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:58 pm

Really love these films. Finding this trilogy, along with the Hesei Gamera trilogy, really made an impact on me in high school....I still really appreciate ADV films for releasing all of these movies back in the day. I literally bought my first dvd player just so I could watch their Gamera and Daimajin sets.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby kiryugoji04 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:55 am

I still haven't sat down to see the second and third films. I have all three on DVD but I guess I may as well snag the blu first... XD
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby davezilla » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:56 am

Just watched the first Daimajin film on blu-ray. I hadn't seen this movie in quite a few years but wow what a treat it was. The picture quality was amazing. There is something special about this pictures that makes you wish Daiei had invested a little more in the Gamera series. Beautifully shot and chorographed I simply love this story of a vengeful god that destroys an oppressive ruler. You can't help but feel sorry for the villagers this guy is abusing. There are some simply amazing shots in this. I know they just made a Daimajin tv series but I would have loved a new epic film, maybe even have something he could fight in that, a rival god or something.

Other than The Magic Serpent and Yamato Takeru this is an area kaiju films could explore more! A combo historical japanese samurai movie and kaiju film. Brilliant!

The first one gets a 9/10 from me. I'll be watching the 2nd tonight.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:12 am

kiryugoji04 wrote:I still haven't sat down to see the second and third films. I have all three on DVD but I guess I may as well snag the blu first... XD

Do it. I'd be kinda surprised if you didn't like all of them.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby klen7 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:26 am

i actually just got the Bluray trilogy for this yesterday. I've never seen the third one, so i should be watching it soon
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:20 am

klen7 wrote:i actually just got the Bluray trilogy for this yesterday. I've never seen the third one, so i should be watching it soon

It's my least favorite of the series...but at least it tries a couple new things.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby MekaGojira3k » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:26 pm

klen7 wrote:i actually just got the Bluray trilogy for this yesterday. I've never seen the third one, so i should be watching it soon

watch it and comment in the weekly viewing thread!
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby klen7 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:07 pm

MekaGojira3k wrote:
klen7 wrote:i actually just got the Bluray trilogy for this yesterday. I've never seen the third one, so i should be watching it soon

watch it and comment in the weekly viewing thread!

That was the imputes for buying it :)
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby kiryugoji04 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:56 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:
kiryugoji04 wrote:I still haven't sat down to see the second and third films. I have all three on DVD but I guess I may as well snag the blu first... XD

Do it. I'd be kinda surprised if you didn't like all of them.


I remember enjoying the first one a great deal.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby davezilla » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:10 pm

Watched the other 2 Daimajin flicks this weekend. Really enjoyed the 2nd one, although it went by so fast. I enjoyed it even though it did seem a semi-retelling of the first flick. Special effects are amazing! Solid acting by the cast to! Another 9/10 from me.

The third flick...well...the special effects are still top notch and I did like some of the new ideas for Daimajin. The opening sequence is so well filmed and you think your in for another serious flick. Then the kids take over. Ok so it's not that I have something against kids being the focus of kaiju films its just the movie could have been 20+ minutes shorter if we didn't see endless minutes of the kids hiking thru the mountain...zzzzzzz I struggled and I mean struggled to stay awake until the end. The ending it typical Daimajin going crazy on the bad guy and it's solid. I like the idea of the hawk being the "avatar" of Daimajin....nice hawk attacks! Overall it's just an ok movie. I give it a 5.5/10

Overall I am glad to own this trilogy and the blu-ray picture quality is AMAZING!!!! Seriously if you haven't picked this up yet you should!
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby lhb412 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:05 pm

So apparently it's Majin's 50th birthday!

Daimajin was released on April 17th 50 years ago.
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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:26 pm

lhb412 wrote:So apparently it's Majin's 50th birthday!

Daimajin was released on April 17th 50 years ago.


Yep, and it was released as a double feature with Gamera vs. Barugon. Both movies hit the 50-year milestone today!

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Re: The Daimajin Trilogy

Postby hanshotfirst1138 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:12 pm

Did the Blu-ray fix the aspect ratio issues?
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