Frankenstein vs Baragon vs War of the Gargantuas

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Which is the better film to you?

Frankenstein vs Baragon [1965]
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War of the Garntantuas [1966]
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Frankenstein vs Baragon vs War of the Gargantuas

Postby The Dark Uniter » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:33 am

Which do you think is the better film? Frankenstein vs Baragon has that great dark, mysterous feel when I watch it. Its also one of the few Toho films that has extra monster footage in it [Frankenstein vs the Devil Fish]. Also it stars Nick Adams which in my option has better acting skills in Toho Monster films than Russ Tambuyn. War of the Gargantuas is a fun film to watch. It has more attack than Frankenstein vs Baragon, the music great to listen, has a guest singer singing ``The Words Get Stuck in my Thoat``, some of the best suits in Toho monster movie history but the negative is the main actor is Russ Tambuyn who look as though he's not into the part. Overall, I think War of the Gargantuas is better.
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Postby Legion » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:37 am

While it seems to me that War of the Gargantuas might be the preferred film amongst many, I'm giving this to Frankenstein. I'm just a bigger fan of big rubber dinosaurs than I am of big hairy and scaly men. For some reason I've never found the Gargantuas to be as interesting as a lot of people do. They're cool, but give me the likes of Manda, Gorosaurus, Varan or Baragon any day.
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Postby zekend01 » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:55 am

I love those two movies. Equally even. I only voted for WOTG because I'm enamored with the gargantua look and execution of the suits.
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:57 am

The attack on the oil rig in Frankenstein Vs. Baragon totally wins this one for me.
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Postby Tyler E. Martin » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:01 pm

"War of the Gargantuas" wins my vote, as it's one of my favorite movies...well, ever. The effects and overall tone have a much better balance than in the other film. Plain, unadulterated fun, with very little to nitpick about as far as I'm concerned.

Not that I don't love "Frankenstein." It's very enjoyable as well, and Nick Adams is definitely a lot more fun to watch than Russ Tamblyn (who just doesn't seem to care), but the effects are unfortunately very uneven. More importantly, the way the film begins, up to the scenes in the research clinic, suggests that we're going to get into some fairly deep moral issues, but that is all but abandoned in favor of a more or less straight-up monster flick. This inconsistency of theme isn't a major gripe, as I still adore the movie, but the following film still gets my vote.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:05 pm

Man this is a tough one...gonna have to barely give it to Gargantuas...this film is a real oddity...the human drama is better in Frankenstein...I feel more for the Frankenstein monster in that movie then I do for Sanda...Baragon is awesome...but Gaira....really just clinches this for me...the bad brother/ lost soul aspect of this film is really what ultimately makes this film one of my faves in any genre
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:34 pm

These two are about equal for me, but I'd have to say I prefer Frankenstein vs. Baragon. They're both great though.
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Postby heroforhirerob » Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:07 pm

I'll give it to the Gargantuas by a (green) hair...but only cause of the atmospheric opening. Loved the octopus attack followed by Gaira...
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Postby Gwangi » Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:32 am

Gargantuas.

In looking at it now, yes Nick Adams gives a much more gusto performance than Tamblyn, but Russ' performance never really bothered me watching this as a kid in the 1970s (nor does it today). Seeing the gargantuas was the first priority, not Tamblyn.
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Postby H-Man » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:25 am

Ever since I saw Frankenstein Conquers the World on AMC's Monsterfest 1999, I've been in love with it. :lol: However, I love War of the Gargantuas, but FCtW is just better, I think.
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Postby Robert Saint John » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:34 am

Nick Adams over Russ Tamblyn anyday.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:08 am

Frankenstein Conquers the World.
It has Baragon and Nick Adams.
However, I have to confess that I don't
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Postby Danno » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:10 pm

For some dumb reason I voted for Gargantua and I have never seen Frakenstein Conquers the World. So I just ordered it on Amazon.
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Postby Destroyer D » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:42 am

Gwangi wrote:Gargantuas.

In looking at it now, yes Nick Adams gives a much more gusto performance than Tamblyn, but Russ' performance never really bothered me watching this as a kid in the 1970s (nor does it today). Seeing the gargantuas was the first priority, not Tamblyn.


I agree and give the edge to WotG. I liked Sanda.
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Postby Pkmatrix » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:00 pm

Frankenstein.

I felt the story, the concept, and the acting was more compelling - both are enjoyable, of course, but I just have to give it to Frankenstein vs. Baragon.
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Postby planetxleader » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:45 am

That's a tough choice, but I gotta go with Frankenstein. Gargantuas is my personal favorite, and I think the story idea is superior; the whole brothers-at-odds thing is classic, and Sanda and Gaira seem like a perfect match-up over the completely random Frankenstein vs. "Giant Monster Who Came out of Nowhere."

Still, Frankenstein is somehow more entertaining. Frankie definitely evokes more sympathy than Sanda, and Nick Adams surely puts in a better performance than Russ Tamblyn (not because Tamblyn's a bad actor; Adams simply relates to the Japanese cast better. Russ is lost in Gargantuas). And then, of course, there's Baragon. While random (don't giant monsters just pop up in Japan all the time anyway?), he undoubtedly earns his reputation as a fan-favorite.

Plus, Frankenstein has so many great moments: Frankie throwing the television out of the window, Baragon crashing a resort party, and so forth. Classic. I'm just sad I didn't see this until Media Blasters released it. This movie would have grown many wonderful nostalgic memories. Instead, I had sweat-slicked nightmares about furry green man-eaters! :lol:
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Re: Frankenstein vs Baragon vs War of the Gargantuas

Postby godziwolf » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:03 pm

The Dark Uniter wrote:Which do you think is the better film? Frankenstein vs Baragon has that great dark, mysterous feel when I watch it. Its also one of the few Toho films that has extra monster footage in it [Frankenstein vs the Devil Fish]. Also it stars Nick Adams which in my option has better acting skills in Toho Monster films than Russ Tambuyn. War of the Gargantuas is a fun film to watch. It has more attack than Frankenstein vs Baragon, the music great to listen, has a guest singer singing ``The Words Get Stuck in my Thoat``, some of the best suits in Toho monster movie history but the negative is the main actor is Russ Tambuyn who look as though he's not into the part. Overall, I think War of the Gargantuas is better.


Gargantua is the better monster movie, but Tamblyn is just so "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" in his role. Awful, awful actor.
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Postby TXKaiju » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:56 am

Without a doubt hands down its War of the Gargantuas!! I just love WOTG and you have to like those Mazer tanks!! This movie is just awesome!! As far as Frankenstien vs. Baragon goes its an ok movie nice storyline but it just does not the entertainment value that War of the Gargantuas does. Its not often that you can say the sequel is the better movie but in this case it is.
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Re: Frankenstein vs Baragon vs War of the Gargantuas

Postby H-Man » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:04 pm

godziwolf wrote:Gargantua is the better monster movie, but Tamblyn is just so OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE in his role. Awful, awful actor.


Are you kidding? :o Tamblyn is a great actor. West Side Story, The Haunting, etc. He just obviously had no interest in Gargantuas.
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Re: Frankenstein vs Baragon vs War of the Gargantuas

Postby planetxleader » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:22 pm

baragon2003 wrote:
godziwolf wrote:Gargantua is the better monster movie, but Tamblyn is just so OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE in his role. Awful, awful actor.


Are you kidding? :o Tamblyn is a great actor. West Side Story, The Haunting, etc. He just obviously had no interest in Gargantuas.


Ditto. West Side Story, The Haunting, and of course Twin Peaks. The dude's considered a great actor and he was nominated for an Oscar long before he appeared in Gargantuas. When you're acting alongside others who do not speak your language, it is hard to pick up where your lines start. Nick Adams didn't have too much of a problem because he picked up a little Japanese (which he used to ask Kumi Mizuno to marry him!).
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Postby zekend01 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:29 pm

Nick is the king (maybe Queen), but defiantly a casualty of Hollywood decadence. I think he would have done anything for that fleeting super stardom always just a little beyond his reach. And MAN, some of the things his contemporaries said he did! :shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Adams_

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Postby The Dark Uniter » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:14 am

Okay, that was freaky when you said maybe queen. That doesn't sound right. :shock:
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Postby zekend01 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:02 pm

Methinks you didn't read the whole Wikipedia article that I put a link up for, hmmmmmm....? :wink:
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Postby Danno » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:08 pm

After watching Frankenstein Conquers the World my vote still sides with War of the Gargantuas. While both movies have impressive set pieces for the monsters to roam around in, Gargantuas has a better finale set/battle.

I did love the scene where Frankenstein threw the tree at the bird and missed, so it landed in some shack instead. I was amazed at how you could barely tell there was a blue screen. The movie had really nice mixing of models and real people.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:58 pm

zekend01 wrote:Nick is the king (maybe Queen), but defiantly a casualty of Hollywood decadence. I think he would have done anything for that fleeting super stardom always just a little beyond his reach. And MAN, some of the things his contemporaries said he did! :shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Adams_

Whole lotta shakin' goin' on!. Indeed.


I had heard some of these things before but that wiki article is deffinetly...um...news to me...

Either way you cut it...Nick was awesome in his roles and while eccentric and perhaps a bit odd...didn't sound like a horrible person in real life, just maybe a little bit sad and lost and in search of finding a connection to hummanity that he seemingly didnt have much of a natural connection to... but a good guy all around it still seems to me
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