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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:40 am
by jellydonut25
Cookson wrote:I know I know... I'm not saying it was 100% perfect... not even 5% perfect. lol

Just saying there were some things I enjoyed... but probably only 5% was enjoyable. LOL
i admit i liked the song that sounded like the 'Kong song' from King Kong vs. Godzilla...

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:45 am
by king_ghidorah
Death Kappa...ah...where to begin...well let's see

Pros:
Interesting kaiju fight scene

And um...that's about it...

Cons:
Too much of a paraody of Showa kaiju films...strings are highly visible on planes and helicopters ect...

The human drama is non-sensical and absurd but not so much so that it becomes an enjoyable train wreck like Monster X was for me...

There is more of a workable plot I suppose in this film than in Monster X in the fact that there is almost a plot that has a begining, middle and end but it's just so..meh...that I found myself surfing the internet while watching this movie

I might be jaded a little here because even though I saw Monster X this morning as well and slightly found it entertaining I've reached my BS level with all of these kaiju parodys...I'm tired of seeing shoddy looking suits and horrible special effects from modern films like this...I want some more Gamera 3, or Gamera the Brave or Ultraman the Next...I'm kind of sick of this strictly tounge and cheek movement that's been prevelant the last few years

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:31 pm
by jellydonut25
^^^yeah, it seems like the "parody" thing is becoming an excuse for having crappy effects.

"It's not SUPPOSED to look real, this is a comedy after all"

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:08 pm
by Flame of Udin
Got mine in the mail today.

Yeah, it's kind of a train wreck but nowhere near as bad as 'Monster X Strikes Back'.

I'm sure I'll end up watching it again but those wires on the planes and helicopters were driving me crazy. I know they wanted to audience to to see the strings to give it that Showa-era feel but when the strings are more noticeable then the actual thing their holding then you have a problem.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:43 pm
by Flame of Udin
oh, and did I mention the film features cameos from Fuji and Yoko (Hiroko Sakurai and Mitsuko Hoshi) from Ultraman and Ultraman Ace?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:54 am
by MouthForWar
king_ghidorah wrote:I'm kind of sick of this strictly tounge and cheek movement that's been prevelant the last few years


Same here. And if anyone wants to see how to do toku/kaiju parody properly, Miike's Zebraman totally nailed it. If only films like Monster X and Death Kappa had the same level of cleverness and overall heart as that film...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:18 am
by kiryugoji04
MouthForWar wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:I'm kind of sick of this strictly tounge and cheek movement that's been prevelant the last few years


Same here. And if anyone wants to see how to do toku/kaiju parody properly, Miike's Zebraman totally nailed it. If only films like Monster X and Death Kappa had the same level of cleverness and overall heart as that film...


Gehara > Zebraman

Better pacing ftw.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:02 pm
by MouthForWar
kiryugoji04 wrote:
MouthForWar wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:I'm kind of sick of this strictly tounge and cheek movement that's been prevelant the last few years


Same here. And if anyone wants to see how to do toku/kaiju parody properly, Miike's Zebraman totally nailed it. If only films like Monster X and Death Kappa had the same level of cleverness and overall heart as that film...


Gehara > Zebraman

Better pacing ftw.


Obviously Gehara has better pacing, its a short! But yes, Gehara is another GREAT example of how to do this kind of thing RIGHT.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:53 pm
by Flame of Udin
MouthForWar wrote:
kiryugoji04 wrote:
MouthForWar wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:I'm kind of sick of this strictly tounge and cheek movement that's been prevelant the last few years


Same here. And if anyone wants to see how to do toku/kaiju parody properly, Miike's Zebraman totally nailed it. If only films like Monster X and Death Kappa had the same level of cleverness and overall heart as that film...


Gehara > Zebraman

Better pacing ftw.


Obviously Gehara has better pacing, its a short! But yes, Gehara is another GREAT example of how to do this kind of thing RIGHT.


Yeah, Gehara is awesome.

Funny thing. I'm watching it right now only this time in standard format and with English dubbing to see if it helps the film at all and the only character that isn't dubbed is the American guy. You know, the oddly placed Caucasian that is narrating the film and seems like he is talking in his sleep. Seriously, the guy acts like a zombie in the movie he is so dull.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:56 pm
by Norman England
I'm not defending the quality of DK at all, if I never hear that idol song again it will be too soon, but Gehara had more per minute to work with. DK was really tight on budget. REALLY tight.

When I was on the set of DK I was a bit shocked. The key people were all Godzilla folk. They just had to work with what they had. You can't believe the resources on Godzilla. At the time, I thought Godzilla was pretty low budget, but looking back and with many sets under my belt, I see they had a lot at their disposal. Sometimes a shot would take weeks of preparation, and the VFXs alone had a crew of around 70 people. Trust me, that's a luxury. At times stage 9 at Toho felt like a small village. With DK...I feel kind of bad that the once great art of giant monsters in Japan has gotten so low rent.

Not sure how many here read it, but my piece in Fangoria pretty much explains where everyone's head was at during the making of DK.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:12 pm
by kiryugoji04
Yes, Gehara is just short a but Zebraman's pacing was *awful*. Granted, it's been some time since I've seen it but I just remembered being baffled by how bad the pacing felt the last time I saw it.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:02 pm
by Shonokin
kiryugoji04 wrote:Yes, Gehara is just short a but Zebraman's pacing was *awful*. Granted, it's been some time since I've seen it but I just remembered being baffled by how bad the pacing felt the last time I saw it.


I love the pacing in Zebraman. Same with Youkai Daisenso, Miike is not afraid to take a break to explore relevant tangents and then get back to the main theme. In a way it reminds me of Mignola's use of static panels in the middle of an action scene in the Hellboy comics. I think it adds to the world within the story.

But I can see that type of pacing not being for everyone. One time I watched Zebraman with my best friend and he fell asleep.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:34 pm
by Flame of Udin
Norman England wrote:I'm not defending the quality of DK at all, if I never hear that idol song again it will be too soon, but Gehara had more per minute to work with. DK was really tight on budget. REALLY tight.

When I was on the set of DK I was a bit shocked. The key people were all Godzilla folk. They just had to work with what they had. You can't believe the resources on Godzilla. At the time, I thought Godzilla was pretty low budget, but looking back and with many sets under my belt, I see they had a lot at their disposal. Sometimes a shot would take weeks of preparation, and the VFXs alone had a crew of around 70 people. Trust me, that's a luxury. At times stage 9 at Toho felt like a small village. With DK...I feel kind of bad that the once great art of giant monsters in Japan has gotten so low rent.

Not sure how many here read it, but my piece in Fangoria pretty much explains where everyone's head was at during the making of DK.


Now that you mention it, it's kind of depressing. Back in the early-mid 60's these films were so grand. Now a days the same country that put out these movies now only make films that parody them....and with no budget at all to do it.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:28 pm
by MouthForWar
Shonokin wrote:
kiryugoji04 wrote:Yes, Gehara is just short a but Zebraman's pacing was *awful*. Granted, it's been some time since I've seen it but I just remembered being baffled by how bad the pacing felt the last time I saw it.


I love the pacing in Zebraman. Same with Youkai Daisenso, Miike is not afraid to take a break to explore relevant tangents and then get back to the main theme. In a way it reminds me of Mignola's use of static panels in the middle of an action scene in the Hellboy comics. I think it adds to the world within the story.

But I can see that type of pacing not being for everyone. One time I watched Zebraman with my best friend and he fell asleep.


I agree, and this is something Miike does intentionally. It works for some viewers and not others, but it works for me.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:32 pm
by Cookie
Well, watched it last night as part of a 3 movie night with my wife(DK, Gehara, and Beauty and the Beast).

It was ok. I thought it was better than Monster X Strikes Back... and that's about it. The beginning scenes were actually pretty amusing(Kappa dancing etc.)... my wife loved it. BUT, when they were in the cave, it just completely sucked balls. The whole cave scene was horrible(until Kappa came). The "atomic bomb explosion" scene was the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen though... wtf was that? lol

The Hangulas(sp?) destruction scene was good... and redeemed the movie imo. It was just awesome to see a new monster, destroying the city. The humans too action figure things was pretty dumb though.... Then we eventually got to the Death Kappa vs Hangulas battle. The battle was actually pretty good, and very amusing. After the fight, Death Kappa turned into a "OH GODZILLA! WHAT TERRIBLE LANGUAGE!" to humanity and started massive destruction(most of it we don't see....)... and the way they defeat the Kappa is by having the main character girl sing Kappas favorite song... he then goes to the ocean peacefully. THE END

Overall... it's a fun movie, that has definate flaws but more positive then negative I think. I also thought FINAL WARS was a fun movie, but DEATH KAPPA makes FINAL WARS look like a masterpiece. lol

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:24 am
by jellydonut25
better than Monster X isn't a difficult feat to pull off...

that's probably the only kaiju film i can think of off the top of my head that i won't EVER waste my time watching EVER again

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:05 pm
by Shonokin
An acquaintance and yokai expert Matt Alt produced this short behind the scenes segmentfor National Geographic online.
Nice little segment but that's not him narrating, as he knows how to pronounce (and speak) Japanese. :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:55 am
by jellydonut25
makes me think...you know what I would absolutely LOVE to see?

a "How it's Made" featuring kaiju suits...

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:19 pm
by swfreakjpb
Finally watched it. Complete garbage as reported earlier. They tried way to hard and so it was not even funny. Like many others I am sure, I would have liked a straight film using the same older style techniques without all the over the top flaws such as the wires and the action figure stand ins and all that. Retro Style is way cool if its not made to look stupid on purpose. It should not look worse then it did back then. I did not really find any thing funny about it at all really. It was just an awkward film. No Kaiju film that I can think of was this awkward. Not even close. So whats the point? I don't get it. Even if they were, who cares? Its still not funny. And I thought Final Wars was awkward. I am going to go watch that to get over Death Kappa.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:45 pm
by Goji 84
Wait, you're going to watch FINAL WARS to try to "get over" DEATH KAPPA? Seriously? Watching something equally awful (or worse) doesn't make much sense to me, but to each his own.

Man, you guys are really turning me off to this movie. I don't think it's even on Netflix (and may possibly never be), so I'll just wait for an opportunity to see it somewhere down the line, and not risk wasting my money. After all, I absolutely loathed MONSTER X STRIKES BACK.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:39 pm
by Shonokin
Death Kappa is now available to watch for free (legitimately) at Crunchyroll. Because of an age restriction you have to be signed in to watch it. Basic membership is free.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:05 pm
by Flame of Udin
Goji 84 wrote:Wait, you're going to watch FINAL WARS to try to "get over" DEATH KAPPA? Seriously? Watching something equally awful (or worse) doesn't make much sense to me, but to each his own.


Your not alone Goji 84, I'd rather watch Death Kappa 100 times before I see 'Versus 2 with a cameo from Godzilla' again.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:44 pm
by MouthForWar
Final Wars isn't a good movie by any stretch, but there's NO WAY in hell its worse than Death Kappa.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:03 pm
by jellydonut25
Shonokin wrote:Death Kappa is now available to watch for free (legitimately) at Crunchyroll. Because of an age restriction you have to be signed in to watch it. Basic membership is free.
well, guess i'll finally be seeing this movie...dont know if i should be excited or not.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:50 pm
by Cookie
MouthForWar wrote:Final Wars isn't a good movie by any stretch, but there's NO WAY in hell its worse than Death Kappa.


GFW is a million times better....

And actually, GFW is a fun movie for me.