D-WAR Finally Gets US Release

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Postby Destroysall » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:55 pm

i agree with indianeric, if they make a sequel they should make it very serious. I did think the funniest scene, sorry i have to share this, is when that evil guy gets hit twice by a car. and when the old lady ran into the wall, lol :lmfao:

still they should make this sequel serious :7sam: then it would rock :rockon:
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:31 am

No matter how "serious" the sequel is, chances are it'll be hilarious.
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Postby kpa » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:15 am

Check out SciFi Japan for an update on the critical and commercial reaction to DRAGON WARS: D-WAR in Korea, plus info on several newly-announced projects from Younggu Art that include DRAGON WARS 2 and the return of Marlon Brando (?!).

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007 ... rom-korea/
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:14 am

kpa wrote:Check out SciFi Japan for an update on the critical and commercial reaction to DRAGON WARS: D-WAR in Korea, plus info on several newly-announced projects from Younggu Art that include DRAGON WARS 2 and the return of Marlon Brando (?!).

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007 ... rom-korea/


Wow... just... wow... that Brando thing is almost insulting! I really doubt his estate would allow it ,but still...

Also, Fish War?

Shim is a nut case. He's REALLY entering Uwe Boll territory now.
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:08 am

In the deep, bottomless sea … There are undersea cities where mutated fishes with highly developed intellectual power live together peacefully. But, they got into rage and swore revenge against human beings who continue to catch fishes indiscriminately.

One of those days, mysterious events started happening, such as pleasure boats at sea sunk and submarines exploded in the sea. Finally, fishes declared a war against human beings on land and came out on the ground to conquer the human beings with highly advanced weapons and military strength, several times more developed than those of human beings. Human beings was defeated instantly by fishes equipped with bombers shaped like a stingray, battle tanks like an octopus, and special forces like a seahorse, and finally put the world under the control of fishes, not of human beings anymore. At court, Dr. Octopus sentenced human beings who habitually tormented fishes. At a sushi restaurant, a catfish, puffing cigars, waited for dishes made of human beings. And fishes caught and refridgerated human beings as exactly human beings did to fishes and completely controlled the whole world.

In Japan, meanwhile, Yamamoto family, the well known sushi master in business for 3 generations, became an most infamous enemy of fishes.


For those of you who haven't read the SciFi Japan article, I didn't just type a bunch of joking nonsense. That's the actual plot for Fish War - Doc Ock and all!

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Postby Cookie » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:52 pm

^ LMFAO..... wow..... FISH WAR sounds like the most hilarious movie EVER.....
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Postby MouthForWar » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:31 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:In the deep, bottomless sea … There are undersea cities where mutated fishes with highly developed intellectual power live together peacefully. But, they got into rage and swore revenge against human beings who continue to catch fishes indiscriminately.

One of those days, mysterious events started happening, such as pleasure boats at sea sunk and submarines exploded in the sea. Finally, fishes declared a war against human beings on land and came out on the ground to conquer the human beings with highly advanced weapons and military strength, several times more developed than those of human beings. Human beings was defeated instantly by fishes equipped with bombers shaped like a stingray, battle tanks like an octopus, and special forces like a seahorse, and finally put the world under the control of fishes, not of human beings anymore. At court, Dr. Octopus sentenced human beings who habitually tormented fishes. At a sushi restaurant, a catfish, puffing cigars, waited for dishes made of human beings. And fishes caught and refridgerated human beings as exactly human beings did to fishes and completely controlled the whole world.

In Japan, meanwhile, Yamamoto family, the well known sushi master in business for 3 generations, became an most infamous enemy of fishes.


For those of you who haven't read the SciFi Japan article, I didn't just type a bunch of joking nonsense. That's the actual plot for Fish War - Doc Ock and all!

This made my day.


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Postby The Shadow » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:16 pm

I don't know - Japan alone consumes 1/6 of all the fish caught & sold in the world each year - sounds like a reasonably spooky/scarey story plot to me...
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Postby Destroysall » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:42 pm

Fish War sounds funny
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Postby GhostMachine » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:07 am

I'd like to point out that I was at Wal-Mart a few days ago and saw Dragon Wars packaged in a 2-pack with the Tri-Star Godzilla.

So, its a movie and a coaster packaged together!
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Postby MouthForWar » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:57 am

GhostMachine wrote:I'd like to point out that I was at Wal-Mart a few days ago and saw Dragon Wars packaged in a 2-pack with the Tri-Star Godzilla.

So, its a movie and a coaster packaged together!


I think you meant to say its 2 coasters packaged together. Or maybe a coaster and a frisbee packaged together.
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Postby Pkmatrix » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:18 pm

I finally saw this movie and, well, I thought it was decent. The acting, at least from the main cast, wasn't bad (although the lines they were forced to give were). The special effects were easily Hollywood worthy and really made the movie watching, especially the big battle in LA and the final battle between the two dragons (in Mordor? :!: :?: )

What ruined the movie, though, was the terrible writing! It seems they had the budget and the cast necessary to make a pretty good kaiju film, but never bothered to write a script that matched the quality of the effects or actors (again, it's not like the cast members were all that good, but they themselves weren't all that bad either... I"d imagine if we gave them a better script they would've been much better). Did ANYBODY understand the story? It was so muddled... and the characters so nonsensical... it seemed like the filmmakers only really had ideas for the monsters and action sequences, the actual story was only an afterthought tossed in to give the cast something to do between the action. They had the money to do so, why DIDN'T they hire a better writer... or at least some decent script doctors? This move SHOULD have been a lot better than it turned out to be.

All of that said, the best performance in the movie comes from the main monster, Buraki. Wonderfully animated and beautifully detailed, whenever Buraki appeared on screen you were able to forget the idiocy of the story for just a little bit and actually enjoy the movie. For the majority of the film, he's really just another critter-on-the-rampage (a very pretty critter who rampages spectacularly, though), but I was most impressed with the monster's characterization in the final scenes of the film. When the villains finally have our heroes cornered and Buraki is sure he's going to win, his demeanor changes completely! You start to get a real feel for what he's thinking and of his narcissism (I've never seen a dragon/snake STRUT before... O_o() ) When the final battle begins, I felt nothing toward the "good imoogi" and found myself instead almost rooting for Buraki, who seemed as if he wanted to win far FAR more than his opponent. You can see his rage and his own personal shock when he sees his prize being snatched quite literally from his jaws. I actually felt a little sad to see Buraki get offed, just as I started to feel some sympathy toward the character.

I would like to see the story be a prequel of some kind exploring Buraki's character a bit. We're never told WHY he's evil or WHY he wants to go to heaven so badly. For that matter, we're never told why we should root for the "good imoogi" either... hell, at least we know Buraki's name! Ah well. I can dream, can't I?
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Postby oaklord » Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:33 am

I agree with you Pkmatrix.
I bought it the other day and the animation were very well done but there was alot of things that happend I did not understand like the Moldor looking city in the final battle that was like a poof were there moment with no explanation as to why or how. In some ways some of the villains reminded me of what the Power Rangers could be if they were on a bigger budget. I still enjoyed the movie tho the dragons were beautifully done.
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Postby sachiel » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:25 pm

I think if given the chance, a sequel with better writing could be pulled off as a better film that D-War. Ethan travelling to Korea and meeting another Old Woman who seems to have raised an Immogi as a pet?
Sounds intriguing to me. :D



To Ben:

LOL You had me there. I thought you had really posted that synopsis for Fish War as your own sarcastic rendition. :lol:
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Postby Cookie » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:42 am

This movie.....is not EPIC like the director wanted. He FAILED....

I'll buy the DVD when Cloverfield comes out on DVD.....I'm in no hurry to buy D-WAR....so I'll just get it the same day Cloverfields released on DVD.
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Postby Shigamado » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:04 pm

I wouldn't be suprised if Wal-Mart bundled D-War with Cloverfield. When Cloverfield arrives on DVD late in the year.
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Postby Pkmatrix » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:50 pm

Shigamado wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if Wal-Mart bundled D-War with Cloverfield. When Cloverfield arrives on DVD late in the year.


What do you mean, "late in the year"? The way they pump DVDs out nowadays, I'm expecting it by April at the latest. :roll:
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Postby mrbluehair » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:06 pm

I saw Dragon War last night and I agree, as did my wife who always scoffs when I watch Godzilla movies, the effects for the most part were very well done, the actors did well with dealing with the weakness of the writing.

We kept having to discuss what the story was trying to say, I mean, when our main guy saves Sarah, and then 10 minutes later they are on the beach kissing, WTF??? Then by the end of the movie which is like a day later, they are in love????

I personally loved the shot at the top of the building when they are on the heli pad and the Imoogi was staring at them, great lighting made it look very realistic against the background. Well done, and the fact that most of the SPFX shots were done in the daytime was a big plus....not like the nightime/rain soaked G98...cough.

Sure there were some herky jerky moments in the major battle scenes, but all in all I was happy to rent this movie, and after seeing the fake vampires in I AM LEGEND, the night before, I wonder how it is that a film company in Korea can make a giant serpent look more realistic....

Oh, and the last unexplained battleground.....I was waiting to hear someone say...MORTAL COMBAT!!!! LOL
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Postby Shigamado » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:50 am

Pkmatrix wrote:
Shigamado wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if Wal-Mart bundled D-War with Cloverfield. When Cloverfield arrives on DVD late in the year.


What do you mean, "late in the year"? The way they pump DVDs out nowadays, I'm expecting it by April at the latest. :roll:


You were right. Cloverfield hits next tuesday.
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Postby GhostMachine » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:52 am

Shigamado wrote:
Pkmatrix wrote:
Shigamado wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if Wal-Mart bundled D-War with Cloverfield. When Cloverfield arrives on DVD late in the year.


What do you mean, "late in the year"? The way they pump DVDs out nowadays, I'm expecting it by April at the latest. :roll:


You were right. Cloverfield hits next tuesday.


Next Tuesday? I thought it was the 22nd?
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Postby MouthForWar » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:45 am

GhostMachine wrote:
Shigamado wrote:
Pkmatrix wrote:
Shigamado wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if Wal-Mart bundled D-War with Cloverfield. When Cloverfield arrives on DVD late in the year.


What do you mean, "late in the year"? The way they pump DVDs out nowadays, I'm expecting it by April at the latest. :roll:


You were right. Cloverfield hits next tuesday.


Next Tuesday? I thought it was the 22nd?


It DOES come out on the 22nd.
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Postby godziwolf » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:26 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:In the deep, bottomless sea … There are undersea cities where mutated fishes with highly developed intellectual power live together peacefully. But, they got into rage and swore revenge against human beings who continue to catch fishes indiscriminately.

One of those days, mysterious events started happening, such as pleasure boats at sea sunk and submarines exploded in the sea. Finally, fishes declared a war against human beings on land and came out on the ground to conquer the human beings with highly advanced weapons and military strength, several times more developed than those of human beings. Human beings was defeated instantly by fishes equipped with bombers shaped like a stingray, battle tanks like an octopus, and special forces like a seahorse, and finally put the world under the control of fishes, not of human beings anymore. At court, Dr. Octopus sentenced human beings who habitually tormented fishes. At a sushi restaurant, a catfish, puffing cigars, waited for dishes made of human beings. And fishes caught and refridgerated human beings as exactly human beings did to fishes and completely controlled the whole world.

In Japan, meanwhile, Yamamoto family, the well known sushi master in business for 3 generations, became an most infamous enemy of fishes.


The first half sounds a lot like Wyndham's Kraken Wakes. (He wrote Midwich Cuckoos and Day of the Triffids)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kraken_Wakes
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Postby Hawanja » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:55 pm

Just got D-War the other day, yeah the usual, very good looking, substandard writing, blah blah blah.

The problem is I think that people are expecting Lord of the Rings, and are disappointed at what they get. Do we really watch these movies for the plot anway?

I don't, anyway.
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Postby Dai » Sat May 24, 2008 4:33 pm

I just rented the DVD and it was about what I expected. The two greatest culprits for the failure of this movie are the script and the editing. It's horribly jarring to have a lengthy expository flashback right after we've been introduced to the lead in the first act. I've never seen a movie with so many cavernous plot holes. Characters and plot threads fall off screen for long periods of time or are forgotten altogether. Characters suddenly know things without any explanation, and change their opinions without any motivation.

There are some seriously impressive effects here, but the actual scenes they appear in are mixed. The flashback battle is fine and Buraki's various pursuit scenes are exciting. The battle between the dark army and the US army/police is an unfocused mess though. What the hell are the bad guys trying to achieve in that scene? They just mash against the US forces for a while with no obvious objective. Now that I think of it, what was the point of the humanoid bad guys at all? Buraki seemed to be doing a good job of hunting down the female lead by himself.

The American setting reeks of having been conceived by someone whose only experience of the country is via action movies and TV shows. The relatively well executed flashback scenes make it apparent that this project would have been better served as a period fantasy set in 16th Century Korea. Or maybe it's just easier to overlook bad acting when the dialogue is in a language the viewer doesn't speak.

Disturbingly, I found myself drawing many comparisons between this movie some of my favourite kaiju movies. It made me question why I like those and not Dragon Wars. Is it just me choosing to like them rather than being won over by their merits? No, the difference is heart. Dogora's plot may meander between heist movie and monster movie without fully capitalising on either; Daimajin may be a stock samurai story for the first two acts; Ghidorah may be awkwardly paced, but these films win me over with the obvious love and enthusiasm that has gone into them. They're a triumph of talent within insanely limited time and resources. Dragon Wars is a cynical attempt to graft Korean mythology onto a cliche Hollywood blockbuster formula.
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Postby Hawanja » Sun May 25, 2008 12:44 am

The American setting reeks of having been conceived by someone whose only experience of the country is via action movies and TV shows.


I can tell you Downtown Los Angeles is not that clean. Plus they forgot to fill it with traffic. :)
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