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Postby Ghost » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:23 pm

There is also a Thai R0 version out now. I saw it the other day. Its a good movie, but don't go into it like it is a Godzilla movie. The effects are good, but the monster isn't really the focus, and he isn't in it as much as one would think.
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:57 pm

kpa wrote:I just got back from a press screening. The movie still kicks ass. :D


Keith, you *really* love this movie, don't you!

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Are you sure that no one's lining your pockets behind the scenes?

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Postby kpa » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:26 pm

kiryugoji04 wrote:
kpa wrote:I just got back from a press screening. The movie still kicks ass. :D


Keith, you *really* love this movie, don't you!

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Are you sure that no one's lining your pockets behind the scenes?

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:lol: :lol: Nah, it was more of the case that I saw the film one time back in November, now 4 months later I had a chance to see it again. I was curious how it would hold up to a second viewing, and I was happy to discover it held up just fine.

I don't think it's a flawless movie. What I wrote in my HOST review last November still stands... the English performances aren't that good (though THE HOST benefits from using real actors, unlike the Godzilla movies), there's some plot threads that go nowhere, etc. It's just the good far outweighs the bad here.

Like I said earlier in this thread "I saw THE HOST in a theater, thought it was great (though certainly not perfect) and have no problem saying so." Don't go in expecting the greatest movie ever made because you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.


Ghost wrote:There is also a Thai R0 version out now. I saw it the other day. Its a good movie, but don't go into it like it is a Godzilla movie. The effects are good, but the monster isn't really the focus, and he isn't in it as much as one would think.


The thing to keep in mind is that, with a few exceptions like KING KONG, the monster/dinosaur/ghost/alien aren't onscreen much in their movies. THE THING (both versions), BEAST FROM 20,000 FATHOMS, CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, BEAST OF HOLLOW MOUNTAIN, ALIEN, POLTERGEIST, PREDATOR, REIGN OF FIRE, RING etc aren't exactly wall-to-wall creature action.

Even most of the Godzilla films don't have as much monster footage as it seems. I have a magazine that lists Godzilla's onscreen time in all the movies from 1954-1991 and the average is around 15 minutes, with a few films having less than 10 minutes of Godzilla.

What makes the original GODZILLA, THE THING, ALIEN etc great movies is that they had strong stories and good characters to carry the 90% of the movie when the monster is elsewhere.
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Postby SciFi Geek » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:08 pm

Even most of the Godzilla films don't have as much monster footage as it seems. I have a magazine that lists Godzilla's onscreen time in all the movies from 1954-1991 and the is around 15 minutes, with a few films having less than 10 minutes of Godzilla.

Agreed. Which is also why I never understood some of the criticisms against the Gamera trilogy because of the lack of monster action not too long ago. The majority of the Golden Age Godzilla movies focused more on human drama than the monster action itself. Even King Kong vs. Godzilla!

The Host seems like great monster movie. Koreans aren't exactly found of the Japanese (not going to get into that) but it's nice to see the director got his influence from Japanese films. I just hope some fans and people general don't dismiss this movie because Godzilla's not in or just another ''crappy Asian monster film''.

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Postby kpa » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:21 pm

Exactly... MONSTER ZERO is one of my favorite Godzilla films and the monsters are barely in it.

On a different note, for anyone here living near San Francisco THE HOST director Bong Joon-ho is making a personal appearance at a screening of two of his earlier films. The details are posted on SciFi Japan at:
http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007 ... ncisco-ca/
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Postby SciFi Geek » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:45 am

Pffft.... You Californians have it all. Especially a state with a blend of different Asian cultures. In Massachusetts, there's nothing like this....Unless that's because I've never out of my city.

It's interesting to see a Korean movie director be fond of kaiju movies. Just goes to show Godzilla Japanese Sci-Fi still have universal appeal. I'm not too surprised about the American sub-plot in The Host. We all know how much Koreans lover their American friends.

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Postby Benjamin Haines » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:01 pm

DVD Talk's Bill Gibron reviewed the film in the site's theatrical reviews section:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=26840

His rating: Highly Recommended
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Postby tylerpistol » Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:35 pm

Look what I stumbled on, on my recent trek to my favorite record store in Calgary's Inglewood district!

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I was kind of tucked away on a street no one probably sees too much of, but I thought it was cool. The graffiti was a nice touch.
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Postby kpa » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:57 pm

SciFi Japan has added an interview with Webster Colcord, computer animation supervisor for THE HOST. Webster started off as a stop motion animator and has worked on commercials, short features, video games and films like MINORITY REPORT, SUPERMAN RETURNS and PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MAN’S CHEST. The interview covers both THE HOST and his earlier works.

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007 ... r-colcord/
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:29 pm

Apparently they're airing one TV spot for The Host in one commercial break for every episode airing of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report on Comedy Central. The film looks sweet, and it's cool to see foreign kaiju films get exposure like this in the States.
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Postby Chop Top » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:26 am

Benjamin Haines wrote:Apparently they're airing one TV spot for The Host in one commercial break for every episode airing of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report on Comedy Central. The film looks sweet, and it's cool to see foreign kaiju films get exposure like this in the States.

Comedy Central has been playing spots for the past week.
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Postby JimPV » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:08 pm

93% "fresh" at rottentomatoes.com, with 100% positive from the "cream of the crop" critics! :o

I'll be seeing it this weekend, come hell or high water. :twisted:
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Postby Vinylmaddness » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:51 pm

I just got home from seeing "The Host" in the theater. I was real impressed. The story was really good and the monster scenes were excellent. Alot of great shots of the monster, especially closeups. You had to kinda sit thru a few parts waiting for something to happen, but when things did happen, it was really great. Some humor and the main actors were very likeable and really had you rooting for them. I don't want to give too much away. You can nick pick at a few parts of the film, but overall an enjoyable movie. If anything, the soundtrack could've been more intense. I encourage to see it in the theater if you can, cause the DVD really won't give you the full effect the film has to offer.

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Postby Benjamin Haines » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:13 pm

Here's another DVD Talk review, this one from Brian Orndorf:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=26923

He likewise gives it a Highly Recommended rating.
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Postby kpa » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:56 pm

There's another glowing review from Anthony Lane at the New Yorker. WARNING: There are spoliers:

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/c ... inema_lane

Another postive review from The San Francisco Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 006&sc=829

I've updated SFJ's theater list with 20 or so additional theaters showing THE HOST: http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007 ... t-trailer/
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Postby Gwangi » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:59 am

JimPV wrote:93% "fresh" at rottentomatoes.com, with 100% positive from the "cream of the crop" critics! :o


I've seen that site. You'll notice lots of references to Godzilla in some of these reviews. I thought it would have opened to more theaters (at least here in So. Cal). The closest for me is at an on-campus theater at a local university, so I may just catch it there.
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Postby JimPV » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:16 pm

(Posted this over at the Classic Horror Film Board, and thought I'd copy it here)

Wow, just got back from seeing The Host this afternoon and gotta' say: boy, was I disappointed. I was soooo looking forward to this, I'm actually a little bit down-in-the-dumps about it. There were just so many head-scratching moments that I just completely un-invested in it after a while.

What was the whole virus-scare aspect of it about? Was the government trying to keep the people away by employing a scare tactic? Why not just cordone the area off? Why did they even assume there was a virus? Even after they determine (I guess...) that there's not one, they rig up the poor father of the little girl and drill into his head (?!). Huh? (And apparently it doesn't have any effect on him...)

The family on the run from the authorities (who's pictures are plastered all over the media) drive right through a check-point after giving the guy a pittance of a bribe... huh? Plus, they're driving through the area in a fumigation truck, and to rid himself of the "virus", the father walks behind the truck which is spewing out insecticide. Wouldn't this make him extremely sick? Why are the authorities even employing fumigation trucks (and boats) for a river monster?

As I said, there were just too many instances of confusion or "huh?" for me to enjoy this. Plus, it was unpleasant and dreary. I'm all for it being gritty and realistic, but not to the point of not being fun. It wasn't fun.

A HUGE disappointment for me. Neat monster, though; and the scene where it first comes out of the river is a stunner. I'm afraid that's about it, though. Bummer...
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Postby Flame of Udin » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:49 am

JimPV wrote:(Posted this over at the Ckassic Horror Film Board, and thought I'd copy it here)

Wow, just got back from seeing The Host this afternoon and gotta' say: boy, was I disappointed. I was soooo looking forward to this, I'm actually a little bit down-in-the-dumps about it. There were just so many head-scratching moments that I just completely un-invested in it after a while.

What was the whole viras-scare aspect of it about? Was the government trying to keep the people away by employing a scare tactic? Why not just cordone the area off? Why did they even assume there was a viras? Even after they determine (I guess...) that there's not one, they rig up the poor father of the little girl and drill into his head (?!). Huh? (And apparently it doesn't have any effect on him...)

The family on the run from the authorities (who's pictures are plastered all over the media) drive right through a check-point after giving the guy a pittance of a bribe... huh? Plus, they're driving through the area in a fumigation truck, and to rid himself of the "viras", the father walks behind the truck which is spewing out insecticide. Wouldn't this make him extremely sick? Why are the authorities even employing fumigation trucks (and boats) for a river monster?

As I said, there were just too many instances of confusion or "huh?" for me to enjoy this. Plus, it was unpleasant and dreary. I'm all for it being gritty and realistic, but not to the point of not being fun. It wasn't fun.

A HUGE disappointment for me. Neat monster, though; and the scene where it first comes out of the river is a stunner. I'm afraid that's about it, though. Bummer...


Sorry you didn't like it, but can you tell me how the attendance in the theater was?

Oh and, in my opinion, the virus aspect of the film was present to show the scare tatcics the US used to cover up for their mess, after all, this film is loosely based on a true story that took place in 2000 http://tinyurl.com/2ekpk7 minus the monster. And since Park Gang-Du knew what they were really up to, they figured to drill into his head so he could not tell any one, and the rest of Park's antics, who knows, remember he was a little 'not right' in the head.

Those who are going to JUST see a monster flick might be a little dissappointed as the monster almost is just there to present the story. It is more a drama about a family's bond and determination to rescue their own more then it is a monster thrashing around sci-fi flick. but I think Joon-ho Bong blended the two nicely so we are still given plenty of monster footage.
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Postby JimPV » Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:45 pm

Here's another scene that was a "huh?" for me: when the brother goes to a friend to locate where the cell phone call from the little girl came from, and the friend ends up turning him in. The brother's in the middle of the office space, the authorities are converging on him from all sides, he shorts-out the lights, and the next thing we know he's outside the office (behind locked doors, no less). How'd he get there? I mean, they should've shown his path of escape (to some extent), not just show him caught in the middle of the place, then next he's outside locked doors, sneaking away.

As I said, there was just too many head-scratching scenes like this. After a while, I don't feel like the filmmaker is playing straight with me, and I just un-invest in the film. Maybe you had to be more familiar with the Korean social/political climate to "get" the whole virus outbreak plot, 'cause I didn't.

The afternoon showing I attended was actually fairly well attended. I'd say the theater was 25-35% full.

EDIT: Oops: it's "virus", not "viras". "Viras" is a Showa Gamera kaiju... :lol:

Flame of Udin wrote:Those who are going to JUST see a monster flick might be a little dissappointed as the monster almost is just there to present the story. It is more a drama about a family's bond and determination to rescue their own more then it is a monster thrashing around sci-fi flick.

There was actually more of the monster than I expected there to be.
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:20 am

Well, just came back from the 12:30 showing and I gotta say... wow. I loved it. I want to see it again so that maybe the ending'll sit with me a little better (I guess I'm just upset because the cute little girl was killed in the end :cry: ) but on the whole it was fantastic. And I want to see it again. And again. And then buy the DVD.

Though my raving feels a bit half-hearted right now... really it's just because it leaves you in such a somber mood, what with that final shot of the lone shop out there in the dark and snow. Very surreal standing in the theater after that and then the reel spinning off into silence, walking out to a nigh-empty hallway and driving home on a deserted highway.

I digress...

Of the last two movies I've seen in theaters, The Host owns 300. 300 was all pretty visuals and pretty fun. The Host was downright enthralling.
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Postby Rodanex » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:43 pm

I saw "The Host" a few nights ago. I thought it was awesome. It was a perfect blend of horror, comedy, political satire, and sci-fi.

One thing I wasn't too clear on, was why the American in the beginning wanted all the formaldehyde dumped down the drain. Was there something wrong with it? Did they have too much or something?
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:46 pm

I just figured the guy was out of his mind. And hyper OCD. :lol:
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Postby MouthForWar » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:57 pm

kiryugoji04 wrote:Well, just came back from the 12:30 showing and I gotta say... wow. I loved it. I want to see it again so that maybe the ending'll sit with me a little better (I guess I'm just upset because the cute little girl was killed in the end :cry: ) but on the whole it was fantastic. And I want to see it again. And again. And then buy the DVD.



Uhh, spoiler warning? :?
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Postby kiryugoji04 » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:16 pm

ACK! I'm sorry, I wrote that at 3:30 in the morning, so that didn't really occur to me... :oops:
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Postby Benjamin Haines » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:22 pm

Here's the official MySpace page for the US release of The Host:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =136452097
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