GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby daikaijusaurus » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:09 pm

Agreed! This should definitely be an documentary, would love to watch interviews with Ja De Pont and the artists involved. If someone can do a documentary about the unmade Superman Lives then why not the unmade Godzilla Vs Gryphon?

And by the way, it seems that artist Ricard Delgado hates the art that he did on Godzilla LOL! :lol:

For all five of you out there that care, here's even better scans of my lame, crummy drawings.
As an added bonus for somehow being interested in the mediocrity that is my art, below is a gaudy, silly painting I did to show director Jan Debont to get the gig of designing Godzilla which was one of the best experiences of my otherwise mediocre artistic career.

Boy, that painting sucks! And that Godzilla...what was I thinking??????

Source: http://ricardodelgadoart.blogspot.com/2 ... ns-of.html


LOL! He sounds like a funny guy!
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby XvGojira » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:22 pm

daikaijusaurus wrote:Agreed! This should definitely be an documentary, would love to watch interviews with Ja De Pont and the artists involved. If someone can do a documentary about the unmade Superman Lives then why not the unmade Godzilla Vs Gryphon?

And by the way, it seems that artist Ricard Delgado hates the art that he did on Godzilla LOL! :lol:

For all five of you out there that care, here's even better scans of my lame, crummy drawings.
As an added bonus for somehow being interested in the mediocrity that is my art, below is a gaudy, silly painting I did to show director Jan Debont to get the gig of designing Godzilla which was one of the best experiences of my otherwise mediocre artistic career.

Boy, that painting sucks! And that Godzilla...what was I thinking??????

Source: http://ricardodelgadoart.blogspot.com/2 ... ns-of.html


LOL! He sounds like a funny guy!


I love his Godzilla. I wonder what he'd do now for the design?
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby Shin_Edda_Robo!!!!! » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:56 pm

I'm guessing his design will be a lot less Jurassic Park-y and much closer to Godzilla
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby kpa » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:43 pm

Ricardo told me he's quite proud of his Godzilla designs.

The color piece on his blog was done as a sample for his job interview. After he was hired his early sketches had more of a dinosaur/Beast from 20,000 Fathoms look, but production designer Joe Nemec pushed for a stronger resemblance to Godzilla. In the article, Ricardo talks about the evolution of his approach to Godzilla and how everyone (Jan, Joe, himself) were happy with his final pass before Winston Studio took over.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby Rody » Thu Jul 30, 2015 8:21 pm

It took me too long, but I finally finished the full article. I must say again, this is a stupendous job you've done, Mr. Aiken & co. It's truly enlightening (and rather frustrating, if you know what I mean) to know the full story behind this major segment of Godzilla history.

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TerranigmaFreak wrote:I finally finished reading the entire thing. What a ride! The entire article could have been made into a movie. Very interesting.

Kickstarter campaign! :mrgreen:

Indeed! You guys didn't happen to film any of these interviews, did you? :P

I'd actually be very interested in seeing this published in print form - although I don't know what the odds of that would be.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby Andrew Nguyen » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:18 am

Overall this was an outstanding article by any standard and one that hopefully a lot of people have read or will read.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby tbeasley » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:19 pm

From Matt Frank -
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby lhb412 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:22 pm

^Can totally see Croker's fingerprints in that piece, even with it being drawn in such a different style then most of the stuff I've seen from him.

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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby jellydonut25 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:22 pm

In a way, I'm glad the 1998 film went so wildly different.

What would irritate everyone more: seeing GODZILLA get taken down by fighter planes, or seeing an iguana called Godzilla get beaten by conventional weaponry?
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby lhb412 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:32 pm

^Took me a second to get your meaning, as I was fairly sure that the De Bont Godzilla wasn't taken down by planes.

This has probably been covered before, but for a minute I thought that in a universe that had the Jan De Bont Godzilla we wouldn't have Gamera: Guardian of the Universe, because the plots were so similar, but then I thought about the chronology for a second and I guess that doesn't wash: the De Bont Godzilla was set to begin production in '94, but it wouldn't have been released until summer '96. Plenty of time for GOTU to be released in Spring '95 and beat it to the punch.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:53 pm

lhb412 wrote:This has probably been covered before, but for a minute I thought that in a universe that had the Jan De Bont Godzilla we wouldn't have Gamera: Guardian of the Universe, because the plots were so similar, but then I thought about the chronology for a second and I guess that doesn't wash: the De Bont Godzilla was set to begin production in '94, but it wouldn't have been released until summer '96. Plenty of time for GOTU to be released in Spring '95 and beat it to the punch.


A summer 1996 devoid of Jan De Bont's Twister would truly be the darkest timeline.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby lhb412 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:09 pm

^Twister was actually a huge movie for my childhood. We live in 'tornado alley' and the '89 tornado was still fresh in everyone's mind (I was a baby), so there was a really big buzz about this tornado movie. I suppose it makes about as much sense as surviving an atomic bomb and getting excited for this movie where atomic bombs create a giant monster.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby lhb412 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:17 am

Twister was on some channel yesterday and it got me thinking about this unmade film again. This film would have been much more ambitious in terms of CGI than Jurassic Park, and that was part of the reason it didn't happen, right? Jurassic Park had so many shots of practical dinosaur animatronics by Stan Winston's studio and only like a quarter of the dino footage was CGI. The new technology was used judiciously. Now, if we look at other mid-'90s film with lots of CGI creatures the results are often subpar. I'm thinking specifically of the flat, cartoony animals of Jumanji. I wonder if this film had been made if the effects would be looked upon as groundbreaking like in Jurassic Park or T2 or Titanic or as dated as Jumanji?
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby jellydonut25 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:50 pm

It probably would have been right about there with the 1998 film, honestly. Part of the reason that got the go-ahead was their claim that they could make it for half the budget proposed under this story's treatment, and I think they wound up going DOUBLE this film's proposed budget. That's my recollection, anyway.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby lhb412 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:04 pm

^Yeah, I believe the De Bont version was deemed to expensive to produce and the '98 film was promised for less but ended up costing more.
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Re: GODZILLA (1994): Jan De Bont's Unmade TriStar Film

Postby Henry88 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:28 pm

lhb412 wrote:^Yeah, I believe the De Bont version was deemed to expensive to produce and the '98 film was promised for less but ended up costing more.


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