TALKBACK: Godzilla (1998)

[mr.negativity]

[KJ Corp]

The only good thing about this movie is that it introduced me to Godzilla. The acting, the monster, the inconsistent size and the military all take a deep shat on the film

[mr.negativity]

[LoneWolfandCub]

If you just watch GINO 1998 as a re-make of "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms," it's a pretty good movie. Just forget they are calling it "Godzilla;" just substitute it with "Raydosaurus."

[jellydonut25]

[Legion]

Yeah, it's not. So much of it is terrible even if you TRY to pretend it's not a Godzilla movie.

[klen7]

Really the Jurassic Park raptor ripoff Godzillas were the only part that keeps me from accepting it as a remake of 20,000 Fathoms

[jellydonut25]

[lhb412]

There's also (btw) no real sense of momentum once we get to NYC. The first part of the film, the lead-up, is the best executed.

It's amazing that a film about a giant monster has so little sense of urgency. It's just two hours of people knocking about playing big lizard whack-a-mole. The idea of GINO's progeny taking over the world comes in at the end to try to rectify this,

[tbeasley]

[mr.negativity]

[Jorzilla]

How did this get made? Godzilla 1998: http://www.earwolf.com/episode/godzilla/

[jellydonut25]

This movie is bullcrap. It's not good as not-a-godzilla-movie.

It's a piece of CRAP. So many reasons have already been elucidated, it requires no further discussion just because it was my recent random watch. Awful. UGH.

[mr.negativity]

Hype is building around Gareth Edwards’ upcoming stab at the King of Monsters, we look at the train wreck that preceded him: Godzilla 1998

[jellydonut25]

The absolute number one thing that went wrong was that Toho got ridiculously greedy and in their greed gave carte blanche to a pair of guys who openly stated they did not like Godzilla.

I'll grant that money is still the motivator behind the new film, but the difference is, they understand now that the best way to make the most money possible, is to make a quality film, not just give it to the hot hand at the moment. Thank God for that too, because a Michael Bay/Peter Jackson/Zack Snyder Godzilla film is a prospect that makes me want to vomit in terror.


EDIT: I also need to state how much I absolutely LOATHE that the official name for this is now "Zilla". I know that's not the official name for the movie itself, but I think it's just beyond STUPID. Worse is that it's actually caught on, and people are using it. It's probably one of my top fandom pet peeves right now. GINO is a better name (pronounced Gee-No). To me, it's always been the "zilla" suffix that has inspired the power...think about it, if people wanna say they have a huge submarine sandwich, they don't call it God-sub. They call it Subzilla. But that's just tangential to the point of how freaking stupid the name "Zilla" sounds.

[mr.negativity]

[mr.negativity]

[MekaGojira3k]

[MouthForWar]

Toho did't just say so "that one time"- They now have the monster copyrighted and trademarked as Zilla and they include him in their monster roster when they loan monsters out to licensers like IDW. The name Zilla, and the monster design are actually Toho's property. It isn't just a nickname, its how the monster is copyrighted and sold now. The monster's copyright was modified and anything involving that creature that was made after 2004 refers to him as "Zilla"- He even has the trademark stamp from Toho with the name "Zilla" on it (that same stamp used to exist with the name "Godzilla)")

They have officially retconned it to be the monster's official name.

Which on the one hand its kind of interesting that they just decided to make him his own kaiju (even if it was just so they'd have another character to sell), but on the other hand, his new name is god awful. Not that I'd know what else to call him (GINO isn't a great monster name either).

[MekaGojira3k]

Well, I didn't really mean it only occurred once, but it happened in one film. I suppose to me I kind of can care less what the stamps say. Especially when its trying to retcon real life (I mean...it's not really doing that, but it's one thing within a continuity to go back and say A is B, it's another to change the name of something that was clearly something else and GINO at least retains that. Godzilla In Name Only is the name I associated with the creature for 7 years, and most of the people I speak with use GINO. Zilla is something I only tend to encounter in the past few years as more facebook groups and things have popped up.

[klen7]

trying to explain the concepts of "Gino" or "Zilla" to anyone outside the fandom is frustratingly embarrassing. "So he's NOT Godzilla??"

[tbeasley]

[jellydonut25]

[MouthForWar]

I'm partially surprised some crazy fan hasn't done a fan edit where they edit "God" out of the "Godzilla" in the audio.

[Psycho Soldier]