Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Spinning flame-jetted turtles, space birds being chopped up like bologna, kids in shorts screaming for help...the original Gamera series was a strange mix of wacky fun!! The 90's Gamera films set a standard that other kaiju films are measured against! Discuss Gamera films here!!

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Postby kiryugoji04 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:55 pm

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Postby king_ghidorah » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:55 pm

I've always liked your subtitle it fits lol.

Man, I love Gamera 2 though, need to watch that again soon. I think it's the most "Honda-esque" film since, well, Honda.
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Postby Silver Kamen » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:21 pm

This really should just be called "The Best of Gamera Collection". :lol:
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby Russzilla » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:20 pm

Silver Kamen wrote:This really should just be called "The Best of Gamera Collection". :lol:


OMG. What hasn't been said about Gamera: Super Monster already?! Why did they even bother? :?
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Postby Silver Kamen » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:30 pm

Russzilla wrote:OMG. What hasn't been said about Gamera: Super Monster already?! Why did they even bother? :?


I would trade this for Gamera vs. Garasharp any day.
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Postby lhb412 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:30 am

MekaGojira3k wrote:I still like it...but maybe I don't like it THAT much. It's not some TRIUMPH OF IMAGINATION or anything.


Permission to excerpt "Triumph of imagination!" for a blurb on the DVD cover?
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby angilas » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:52 am

Best thing about this film as with Final Wars, it can be used to pad the title monster's stats when it comes to online discussion battles. Final Wars as ridiculous as it was had Godzilla's upper limit of him beating 10 kaiju in one day (if you can include forcing X to transform), knocking out 3, killing the rest, before needing a boost from the Gotengo to beat his strongest foe yet, able to pinpoint a meteor headed straight to earth and survive the annihilation it causes and still fight etc...

SMG shows Showa Gamera taking on 6 kaiju and 2 space ships in one day before taking himself out to destroy the last, and thats his upper limit and fully cements his masochistic tendencies, Kaneko picked up on for the heisei trilogy. Apparently the lead super alien hero was a tough wrestler at the time too, kinda like Don Frye who was picked up for Final Wars was.
Still by far one of the worst films ever made, probably because they just wanted to capitalize off of Gamera after Daiei managed to survive the 70s barely, and it was just intented to appeal to children. The films themselves had fallen steeply since Gyaos, and probably the high point was the first 2, But this took it off the deep end. The turtle scene reminded me of the Brave in a way, but I appreciate that film and the battle in Nagoya 10x more after this. That Godzilla poster falling over towards the end where controlled Gamera is rampaging might be the closest we get to a crossover for a while if ever.
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby ILL GREEN » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:14 pm

In this movie's defense, I'll just say that its the first Gamera movie I ever saw. So I had no idea about the copy and paste job that they did. It was awesome as a kid.

When I got older, I realized what a train wreck it really was. Absolutely cheap and stale.

But hey, its a great film as an introduction to showa Gamera for those not familar with him.
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Postby klen7 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:52 pm

^ Thats an interesting perspective on the movie. I think most fans have seen it after seeing most of the leading films first.
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Postby lhb412 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:06 pm

Never seen this before. I can't wait 'till I finish the film before commenting. 23 minutes in:

- The lead space woman/professional wrestler lady is cool.
- This kid's exuberant "Gamera March" is the weirdest thing in the whole damn franchise. He's so enthusiastic, and it sounds like music an ice cream truck makes.
- Random Kinnikuman shoutout!
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Postby lhb412 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:00 pm

- Space Battleship Yamato!
- Calling it: none of this is really happening. This kid's mind has snapped. It explains why the plot doesn't make sense. Why only the space women seem to notice that there's monsters running around (clearly they're based on real adults this kid knows).
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Postby lhb412 » Thu May 01, 2014 9:17 pm

- None of the human cast does anything pertinent to the plot until a wrestling match at a kid's playground... I'm speechless.
- Man, the photography of all the new shots of that crummy Gamera model and any new composite footage is horrible. Was it shot on video tape?

In summary: Super Monster Gamera, a deeply strange oddity of a film... if you can even call it a film. Making Viras and Zigra retroactively less bad in comparison.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Wed May 21, 2014 11:10 pm

This is awful and makes me want to punch Gamera
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby Russzilla » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:05 am

So in short, the worst Gamera movie ever made. I first saw this movie when I was 10 years old man. That was 35 years ago. I haven't watched it since.
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Postby O.Supreme » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:39 pm

So does anyone have a copy by chance of the super elusive Filmways version with English opening/closing credits & title card? The film for some odd reason was aired probably 3 times at least it early 90's. Where I live. I think there was a late night host that had an affinity for older AIP -TV films (though this was not one of them), but alas my copied-from-tv VHS copy has degenerated before I could properly archive it. Sure S!F release includes the dub, but not the English credits. As bad as this film is, I would hate for these to be lost to time.

If anyone has one to trade or knows a place where I can watch it online, please PM me.
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Postby The Real McCoy » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:45 pm

lhb412 wrote:In summary: Super Monster Gamera, a deeply strange oddity of a film... if you can even call it a film. Making Viras and Zigra retroactively less bad in comparison.

I dunno; I still hate Zigra more...

I am prepared to be stoned repeatedly until death. :cry:
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Postby EricDent » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:10 pm

Besides Space Battleship Yamato it also shows Galaxy Express 999 as well.
The one thing I found odd is why they didn't translate the organ song?
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby lhb412 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:57 am

The Real McCoy wrote:
lhb412 wrote:In summary: Super Monster Gamera, a deeply strange oddity of a film... if you can even call it a film. Making Viras and Zigra retroactively less bad in comparison.

I dunno; I still hate Zigra more...

I am prepared to be stoned repeatedly until death. :cry:


Okay, weirdest Showa Gamera moment is a tie between the kid's song in Super Monster and the argument about fish (that goes on forever) in Zigra.
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby Rodan » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:41 am

The Real McCoy wrote:I dunno; I still hate Zigra more...

I am prepared to be stoned repeatedly until death. :cry:

Zigra is absolutely unbearable. I'll take this any day.

I think most people do themselves (or maybe this movie, because certainly no one needs to watch this or any of the early Gamera entries) a disservice by watching it after all the other Showa films, or even immediately on their heels. It was meant to get a little bit of money out of the property (when Daiei had been newly purchased) by delivering something exciting for kids who had never seen the previous Gamera films. It came out nearly a decade after the previous one.

It's charming and ridiculous how filled it is with things a young kind in '80s Japan might have enjoyed -- sentai-styled alien heroines, Shonen Jump references, anime tie-ins, Star Wars-styled ships and of course the monsters themselves. I kind of adore its hard '80s aesthetic as well. I'm so used to seeing '60s, '70s and '90s aesthetics in kaiju movies, this one sticks out in a pleasant way, even though it's incredibly drab.

If you view it without having recently seen the Showa films and can understand its target audience and the reason it was made, it's a fun time. Even then, some of the latter Showa Gamera films are so hard to sit through as an adult, I actually prefer this little highlight reel/'80s time capsule. It has literally all their best parts, and from what I remember some of the fights are actually more tightly edited than in their original films.
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby DannyBeane » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:04 am

I actually enjoy Zigra. I think the idea of a Hitler Space Shark is novel, the music is catchy, and the xylophone BBQ ending is hilarious. That said. Gamera Super Monster is completely unwatchable. I feel dumber after watching it.
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Postby lhb412 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:12 am

Rodan wrote: I kind of adore its hard '80s aesthetic as well. I'm so used to seeing '60s, '70s and '90s aesthetics in kaiju movies, this one sticks out in a pleasant way, even though it's incredibly drab.


That's a good point: the '80s had a really strong aesthetic and it's the least reflected in the genre simply because they weren't making kaiju movies. It's Super Monster, Ultraman 80, The Return of Godzilla/1985, and Biollante was released a month before the '90s started.
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Postby Hybrid Gojira » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:37 am

The Real McCoy wrote:
lhb412 wrote:In summary: Super Monster Gamera, a deeply strange oddity of a film... if you can even call it a film. Making Viras and Zigra retroactively less bad in comparison.

I dunno; I still hate Zigra more...

I am prepared to be stoned repeatedly until death. :cry:


I'm in the same boat - both of these movies suck, but I think Zigra is the worst of the bunch.
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Postby Dr Kain » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:24 am

Super Monster is tied with Rebirth of Mothra II as being the worst Kaiju movie ever.
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Postby DannyBeane » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:44 am

Dr Kain wrote:Super Monster is tied with Rebirth of Mothra II as being the worst Kaiju movie ever.
My vote goes to Varan the Unbelievable. RoM 2 is stupid and cutesy but the Dagarah is a pretty cool kaiju. Varan though puts me to sleep every single time in like 10 minutes. I think I've only successfully watched it twice. Super Monster though... I refuse to acknowledge that as a movie.
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Re: Super Monster Gamera Talkback

Postby kiryugoji04 » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:41 pm

lhb412 wrote:
Rodan wrote: I kind of adore its hard '80s aesthetic as well. I'm so used to seeing '60s, '70s and '90s aesthetics in kaiju movies, this one sticks out in a pleasant way, even though it's incredibly drab.


That's a good point: the '80s had a really strong aesthetic and it's the least reflected in the genre simply because they weren't making kaiju movies. It's Super Monster, Ultraman 80, The Return of Godzilla/1985, and Biollante was released a month before the '90s started.


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