Showa Gamera Suits

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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby klen7 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:49 pm

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jellydonut25 wrote:Toho isn't even interested in doing GODZILLA justice anymore (and I'm referring to the last 20 years). Why would you have any faith in them?

Because I can. :shock:

Expound, explain...I just don't see how someone can have faith in a company that doesn't even care about THEIR OWN BIGGEST PRODUCT.

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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby jellydonut25 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:12 pm

klen7 wrote:Faith and hope... because it beats the sad alternative...

hey, I have faith and hope and cotton candy wishes about many things...just not Toho.
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby tbeasley » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:24 pm

I think they care. They know he can make them money. They've just become so bureaucratic with the character, holding certain filmmakers back (Kaneko), and at the same time making some poor decisions when it comes to loosening the reins (Emmerich, Kitamura).
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby jellydonut25 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:59 pm

Tyler wrote:I think they care. They know he can make them money.

The second thought, imho, kinda runs counter to the first. Toho doesn't REALLY care. They just want to milk whatever pennies they can.
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby tbeasley » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:46 am

If they truly didn't care they'd forget about him entirely. It's up to the people they hand him to now to do a good job.
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby ILL GREEN » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:00 am

Toho cares, they never would have made G2000 if they didn't feel GINO could've killed the franchise. They need Godzilla like Disney needs Mickey. Also, Toho loved the Gamera trilogy, so much they put Kaneko aboard for GMK. I think Gamera just has a huge price tag that Toho refuses to pay.
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby H-Man » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:13 pm

Sorry for the necro-bump. I was happy that August included some information about the Showa Gamera suits in his Shout! Factory TV introductions (which I just got around to watching). I also went back to the Gamera vs. Barugon commentary by August and Jason Varney. Here's what I pieced together:

The first Gamera suit was only used in the original film. Equis Productions, which built most of the Gamera costumes, delivered a new one for Gamera vs. Barugon. At this point, obviously, there were two Gamera suits. August's intros for Gyaos and Viras don't have any info on the Gamera suits in those films. It looks to me like the one in Gyaos was new and later reused for the next film. The costume in Guiron, Jiger, and Zigra is the same, the major difference being a new head affixed to the costume for Jiger. (In the Zigra video, August says, "While Equis Productions had to overhaul the Gamera suit used in the last three films..." I'm not sure if he's including Zigra in that count or excluding it and going back to Viras.)

Lastly, he says that Equis built a new suit for Super Monster that went unused on screen. Supposedly this is a picture of it. However, there is almost certainly a Gamera suit (or part of one) used in the scene where Gamera knocks over the "Dojira" poster.

So that gives us:

*Gamera (1965) - New
*Gamera vs. Barugon - New
*Gamera vs. Gyaos - ?
*Gamera vs. Viras - ? (I think this is the same as the previous suit.)
*Gamera vs. Guiron - New/Possible reuse from 1968.
*Gamera vs. Jiger - Reuse from 1969.
*Gamera vs. Zigra - Reuse from 1969.
*Gamera, Super Monster - New
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby Benjamin Haines » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:26 pm

H-Man wrote:Lastly, he says that Equis built a new suit for Super Monster that went unused on screen. Supposedly this is a picture of it. However, there is almost certainly a Gamera suit (or part of one) used in the scene where Gamera knocks over the "Dojira" poster.


That's an interesting picture. I've never seen that suit before but that photo looks like it was the basis for the movie's poster art. I'll bet it was that suit's tail in the "Dojira" poster scene.
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Re: Showa Gamera Suits

Postby H-Man » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:38 pm

Benjamin Haines wrote:
H-Man wrote:Lastly, he says that Equis built a new suit for Super Monster that went unused on screen. Supposedly this is a picture of it. However, there is almost certainly a Gamera suit (or part of one) used in the scene where Gamera knocks over the "Dojira" poster.


That's an interesting picture. I've never seen that suit before but that photo looks like it was the basis for the movie's poster art. I'll bet it was that suit's tail in the "Dojira" poster scene.


Good catch, I didn't notice the similarity to the poster art. It's so similar that I think the art has to be based on that image.

Google also turned up this image of the same suit being built, this time in connection with Super Monster.
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