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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:35 pm

That still doesn't seem pretentious. I also don't know how they're so idiotic. I mean, No more than some of the stuff in Gamera 3 (which are only executed marginally better).
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Postby jellydonut25 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:34 pm

MouthForWar wrote:I think jelly was referring to the ridiculous amount of grandeur and seriousness that such idiotic plot elements are presented with in the film.
exactly.

it's all supposed to be this big, serious deal...and it's just dumb. That's pretentious.

"attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed" it's like TEXTBOOK pretentious...
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Postby eabaker » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:37 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:
MouthForWar wrote:I think jelly was referring to the ridiculous amount of grandeur and seriousness that such idiotic plot elements are presented with in the film.
exactly.

it's all supposed to be this big, serious deal...and it's just dumb. That's pretentious.

"attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed" it's like TEXTBOOK pretentious...


I don't think the plot elements are idiotic, I think they're poorly handled, and as a result the importance placed on them seems disproportionate.

Either way, we're nitpicking here. I think we can all agree that there are problems with GMK's script and execution, and in places it coems off a bit heavy-handed.
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Postby jellydonut25 » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:38 pm

eabaker wrote:I don't think the plot elements are idiotic, I think they're poorly handled, and as a result the importance placed on them seems disproportionate.
overly self-important....



....or in other words, pretentious.
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Postby eabaker » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:39 pm

jellydonut25 wrote:
eabaker wrote:I don't think the plot elements are idiotic, I think they're poorly handled, and as a result the importance placed on them seems disproportionate.
overly self-important....



....or in other words, pretentious.


But I think they are important, their importance is just overshadowed by the sloppiness with which they're handled.
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Postby MekaGojira3k » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:00 pm

eabaker wrote:
jellydonut25 wrote:
eabaker wrote:I don't think the plot elements are idiotic, I think they're poorly handled, and as a result the importance placed on them seems disproportionate.
overly self-important....



....or in other words, pretentious.


But I think they are important, their importance is just overshadowed by the sloppiness with which they're handled.


They're clearly important, because they're hints of the supernatural forces driving the film.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:53 am

I was re-reading my copy of Age of the Gods last night and the final chapter kinda stuck out to me because it quotes Yuasa's feelings about GOTU upon the time of its release.

"It's made by fanboys for fanboys."

It's true but I don't think that's a bad thing. I think Yuasa had a very personal connection with Gamera. He didn't want anyone else making Gamera movies but him, so no matter how good the film was he wouldn't like it. It's just an odd comment because GOTU is almost a straight remake of Gamera vs. Gyaos.

Really wish we could have gotten a video interview with Kaneko and Yuasa after Gamera 3. I'd like to see how both directors honestly felt about the Showa and Hesei series after Kaneko finished his trilogy.
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Postby MouthForWar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:19 pm

KG, you have Age of the Gods?! I've been after that book for YEARS and I can't find the damn thing ANYWHERE. I have all the other great English Toku books by Ed, Steve, August, Stuart, etc., but I never got that one :(
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:52 pm

Dude I dropped over 100 bucks on it back in 2009. Don't regret it though...it's a great book! Hope you find it one day my friend!
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Postby eabaker » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:16 pm

king_ghidorah wrote:Dude I dropped over 100 bucks on it back in 2009. Don't regret it though...it's a great book! Hope you find it one day my friend!


I wish I hadn't lost my copy of that book! So good...
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