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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby H-Man » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:27 pm

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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby Joseph Goodman » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:38 pm

Another reference to Daimajin as "Vengeance of the Monster" can be found in Cinefantastique Vol 02, No. 1 (Spring 1972). A G-Fan who grew up in the Philippines also recalls seeing it under that title in G-Fan #50.
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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby H-Man » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:59 pm

Joseph Goodman wrote:A G-Fan who grew up in the Philippines also recalls seeing it under that title in G-Fan #50.


In this case I wonder if that was the on-screen title or merely how the film was advertised.
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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:44 am

Slightly off topic, bt it is quite possible that Gamera vs Zigra may hold a reord for being the film that has a longest lag time between original release in Japan (1971), and getting an official release in the United States (mid-late 80's Sandy Frank). Even with the seemingly long delay of the Heisei Godzilla films, they weren't anywhere near the possible 15 year (+/-) gap this film endured (quality aside).

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I posted this in a thread about the fabled Leoman title, but I was just wondering, how publications were able to report on a film arguably most americans had not seen. This does beg the question...about when was the first US TV airing of Zigra? Also is there any evidence the film was shopped around to other distributors from 71-85? It is odd that Filmways got Super Monster out relatively quick after its initial release, but Zigra floundered in obscurity for so long.
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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby H-Man » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:53 pm

Shochiku handled worldwide distribution of Super Monster (featured in several Shochiku ads in Variety through 1982) which could likely explain why that was picked up when Zigra wasn't. Judging from dialogue in the dubbed version of the latter, Frank had Zigra dubbed in 1985 (in England), but it wasn't seen until 1987 when the USA Network picked up King Features' syndication package including the Sandy Frank films. It was released on video later that year.

I think, technically, the longest gap between original Japanese release and U.S. release belongs to the third Majin film. It took almost 32 years for a distributor to release that here. I suppose you could also make a case for Genocide, The Living Skeleton, and other Japanese genre features Criterion holds, since barring "Japanese theater" releases those had to wait many decades to be seen in this country.
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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby O.Supreme » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:21 pm

H-Man wrote:Shochiku handled worldwide distribution of Super Monster (featured in several Shochiku ads in Variety through 1982) which could likely explain why that was picked up when Zigra wasn't. Judging from dialogue in the dubbed version of the latter, Frank had Zigra dubbed in 1985 (in England), but it wasn't seen until 1987 when the USA Network picked up King Features' syndication package including the Sandy Frank films. It was released on video later that year.

I think, technically, the longest gap between original Japanese release and U.S. release belongs to the third Majin film. It took almost 32 years for a distributor to release that here. I suppose you could also make a case for Genocide, The Living Skeleton, and other Japanese genre features Criterion holds, since barring "Japanese theater" releases those had to wait many decades to be seen in this country.


Interesting, I knew the 3rd Daimajin film wasn't dubbed by AIP initially, but I wasn't aware it wasn't released at all prior to ADV's VHS in 1998 (fun fact, the Daimajin Trilogy on VHS my very first purchase on Amazon, after graduating college and getting my first home computer with *internet*, in fact , it was probably my first online purchase ever) 8) But yeah that more than doubles Zigra's lapse time.
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Re: AIP-TV first airings

Postby H-Man » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:01 pm

O.Supreme wrote:I posted this in a thread about the fabled Leoman title, but I was just wondering, how publications were able to report on a film arguably most americans had not seen.


I don't know how they would have been obtained, but Greg Shoemaker (RIP) writes in his letter in Cinefantastique that he compiled his list of Daiei genre films from UniJapan Film Quarterly. (See Joseph's post a little ways up^)

UniJapan and Toho's sales books from the same period are really valuable items today for huge nerds like us. The Toho books, starting in 1962, had a list of English-dubbed films offered by the studio; UniJapan sometimes listed dubbed (and subtitled) versions, although not as comprehensively. Greg's aforementioned list is notable to me because he uses the titles under which Daiei likely exported those films. Some of these titles are slightly different today: Gamera vs. Gyaos was originally "Gamera vs. Gaos", the Majin movies didn't use the "Daimajin" name, etc.

As for "Gamera vs. Leoman," the earliest use of that title that I'm familiar with is in Cinefantastique Vol. 1, no. 3 (the article Shoemaker mentions in his letter), where it's listed as "in production" for 1971.
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